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eimilia

Mar 5, 2006, 10:54 PM

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SIM cards; local mobile calls; US calling cards

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I'll be traveling from the US to Mexico monthly and I'd like to get set before I go the next time. I have researched and would like a SIM card for use in Mexico so I will have a local number so I can make and receive calls locally but I'm not sure if it is better to get one before I travel or pick one up there. If I get a Mexico City #, is it long distance to call from, for example, Mexico City to Puebla City? Does anyone have experience with the following SIM card providers or recommend I wait to pick one up in Mexico? My home base in Mexico will be San Pedro Cholula.
http://www.cellularabroad.com/mexicoppsc.html
http://simservice.com/Sim/Telcel.html
http://www.samstores.com/details.asp?ProdID=2202
http://www.telestial.com/...PRODUCT_ID=LSIM-MX01&
http://www.mindlogic.com/...TRY_mexico_DTL.shtml
http://www.valuesphere.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv? Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SmartCards&Product_Code=Mexico
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Also, I could not reach my husband on his Cholula mobile number when I called him from Cholula. When I call from the USA, I dial 011 52 244 111 2222 (the 111 2222 are actually other digits but I hope you get the idea) and get through to voicemail unless he is in the middle of the Zocalo in Cholula or in Puebla City where it actually rings. He is usually in Zacapechpan or Nealtican where there appears to be no mobile service. (does anyone know if there is mobile service in these villages?) So when I phoned him from within Mexico from a payphone, I tried all of the following with no success:
044 244 111 2222
044 55 244 111 2222
01 244 111 2222
Is there some pattern for local calls to a mobile I'm not getting? I know that in the UK and in Greece, local mobile calls require an extra digit...
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Finally, I just wanted to vent about our US-based calling card being blocked by Telmex? PINGO is the service I use to call him from the US and it works well from the US to Mexico but not the other way. They advertise that he can call me in the US on same account (you call a toll-free number first) but every time he tries, it says the number is blocked. I asked PINGO about it and they said that the Telmex provider he is using is the one blocking the call and that he has to phone his provider and tell them to please unblock? Does anyone know if this is unblockable or if this is a dead-end monopoly?

Thanks for any enlightenments!


(This post was edited by Rolly on Mar 6, 2006, 8:10 AM)



raferguson


Mar 12, 2006, 6:52 PM

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Re: [eimilia] SIM cards; local mobile calls; US calling cards

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It seems a little strange that no one has replied, but let me try. Maybe people were put off by you asking a lot of questions at the same time.

Prepaid cell phones are a good thing in Mexico, but not if you are in an area without coverage. In areas with coverage, you tend to see kiosks celling cell phones at every corner. I suspect that if you are in an area without coverage, the kiosks would be few and far between. This same rule could be used to help you pick which cell phone company to go with. But the best rule is probably to make local inquiry to find out which cell phone company, if any, covers that area.

If you will be going back and forth every month, then you should definitely get a Mexican phone, probably a Mexican cell phone unless there is no cell phone service where you normally travel.

I have no opinion on the merits of a Mexican SIM card vs. a Mexican cell phone. The last time I looked I could buy a cell phone in Mexico for $40, so not much advantage to buying a SIM card vs. a phone. I would think that it would be simpler and cheaper to just buy a phone down there, preferably in the area where you expect to spend most of your time.

Note that even if cell phones don't generally work well, if you use an external antenna, perhaps with a beam antenna and an amplifier, you might get cell phone coverage from a remote fixed location. I know that my cell phone in my car gets one bar, outside the car it gets two bars, and I get three bars from inside my car if I use my external magnetic mount antenna. If I put that antenna on top of a building it would work even better. Fixed cell phone service is not uncommon in Mexico, you can even buy cell phones that look like a desk phone.

My understanding is that if you are within Mexico, you would dial a cell phone with 044 plus 10 digits, the LADA (area code) plus the local phone number.

I believe that calls from Mexico city to Puebla are long distance, and would cost 4 pesos per minute from a pay phone, more if you are calling a cell phone from a pay phone.

Telmex has rip off long distance charges, and they block competitors in various ways, overcharge for connection fees, you name it. The US government has filed a trade complaint about the Mexican government policies that allow Telmex to shut off competion and engage in various monopolistic practices. Of course, Telmex is owned by Carlos Slim, the fourth richest man in the world, so it is unlikely that the Mexican government will go against his interests. A little web searching on the name Carlos Slim will help you understand the situation a bit better.

The popular ways to bypass the rip off charges from Telmex are callback services, or making phone calls via the internet.

I hope this helps. Maybe someone else will comment or correct me.

Richard


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eimilia

Mar 12, 2006, 8:15 PM

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Thanks so much for your reply. I was so excited to have found your group as I had so many questions but after no one replied, yes, I did regret having posted multiple questions in one post! I will try to limit myself in the future to shorter queries.

The external magnetic antenna sounds like a great idea. Hope I can find one. And I will familiarize myself with Mister Slim.
I appreciate the response -- thanks.


Papirex


Mar 13, 2006, 9:21 AM

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I don’t understand from your post if you husbands phone is a cell phone or not. If it is a cell phone, you must dial 13 digits to call him as a local call, and 15 digits for a long distance call from within Mexico.

Our area code here in Cuernavaca is 777, so to call a cell phone locally, we need to dial 044-777-XXX-XX XX. To call a cell phone in another area it would be a long distance call and we need to dial the long distance prefix of 01. So, to call one of our cell phones long distance from another area you need to dial 01-044-777- XXX-XX XX.

The prefix 044 and the area code must always be dialed when calling a cell phone, even if it is a local call here.

Richard Ferguson is right about the number of digits you dial locally, and it costing more to call a cell phone from a pay phone. I don’t know the rate structure for pay phones, but we are charged $2.03 Pesos per minute on our Telmex bill when we call a cell phone from our home. That’s US 19 Cents per minute.

19 US cents per minute to call a cell phone from your home may seem a little high, but after all, Carlos Slim is only the third richest person in the world. He is just trying to kick Bill Gates out of the number one spot.

We have a cell phone plan with Iusacell that allows us to call between out two cell phones at no charge; they act as personal radiophones when we call the other cell phone. I don’t know why, but I don’t feel guilty about cutting Carlos out of his take on our calls using a service that he has no investment in Unsure

Rex

"The supreme happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved" - Victor Hugo


raferguson


Mar 13, 2006, 8:22 PM

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The link below should give you a starting place on cell phone antennas. A real antenna makes a huge difference, as does putting the antenna higher. Unfortunately, each cell phone company seems to have their own antenna connector, so you have to buy a special adaptor cable to go from the phone to the antenna.

<url>http://www.alternativewireless.com/cellular-antennas/antennaFAQ.html</url>

Good luck.

Richard


http://www.fergusonsculpture.com


johanson / Moderator


Mar 13, 2006, 9:29 PM

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I'm sure glad you folks finally answered the above questions. An expert about cell phones, I AM NOT.


eimilia

Mar 14, 2006, 5:28 AM

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Thank you Rex, for your cell phone calling templates within Mexico. Yes, my husband's phone is a cell phone. Within Mexico, I would be calling cellular-to-cellular, street phone-to-cellular, land line-to-cellular...

And thank you, Richard for the Alternative Wireless link. I am glad to have it.

What, with the combination of all that enhanced reception buzzing around his truck, and myself actually dialing the correct pattern, we might make a connection one of these days when he isn't in the Zocalo? (the strongest reception in Cholula...)

Eimilia


lakechapaladreamer

Aug 21, 2006, 1:53 PM

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" We have a cell phone plan with Iusacell that allows us to call between out two cell phones at no charge; they act as personal radiophones when we call the other cell phone."

Hi, We are moving to Ajijic in November and I am very interested in getting more info from you regarding your Iusacell. I went to their website, but I don't yet know enough Spanish to get the info I need. We are mainly interested in having a way for the 2 of us to communicate when one or both of us is out and about lakeside. We will have Vonage and a mexican landline, so long distance isn't an issue.



Papirex


Aug 21, 2006, 6:40 PM

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I recommend that you visit an Iusacell office in Guadalajara to get information about the Lakeside area. We live in Cuernavaca. We are 52 miles from Mexico City, which is in a different area code, and we have used our phones to call each other there with no use of our monthly minutes, so I know it works there. It probably does in the Lakeside area too, if there is a transmission tower there that carries their signals without roaming charges, but I think you should verify that.

Besides being in Spanish, the Iusacell website is horribly user-unfriendly. If your Spanish skills are low, take someone to interpret for you. There are at least four Iusacell offices here, and usually there is no one in an office that speaks English.

I finally found one young woman in their main office that speaks very good, fluent English, and one young man that speaks fairly understandable English. They were a big help last month. When I returned from a trip to The US, I had a bill waiting for me that had over$1600 Pesos worth of roaming long distance calls made in Guadalajara while I was gone. I had the phone with me in The US. No one could have made those calls on my phone.

When it comes to technical terms, my Spanish fails me. I had agued with the cashier for a half an hour and got nowhere. My two friends heard me and had the whole mess straightened out in five minutes.

You will definitely need to sign up for a monthly calling plan to use the radiophone feature. It does not work with their prepaid calling cards. I have their cheapest plan with just 70 minutes of calling time per month. I cannot make international calls, and my phone will not work in The US. My wife has a more expensive plan, I think she has about 90 minutes of calling time per month; maybe it is a lot more than that. She can make international calls, and her phone did work in The US.

Sorry to be so vague in my answer, but I really have no reliable information about Iusacell in the Guadalajara or lakeside areas.

Rex






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