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Cynthia7

Jan 23, 2007, 6:48 PM

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Give me some input on canned tomatoes..whole, crushed, sauce, pure and paste...catsup.. Do you have some favorite brands? Special uses? Preferences?



sfmacaws


Jan 23, 2007, 9:01 PM

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Re: [Cynthia7] canned tomato products

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I haven't done a full scale search but I've never seen whole canned tomatoes in Mexico. The only chopped, canned tomatoes I've seen are either with salsa ingredients added (onion, cilantro, garlic, chile) or they are Italian style with mild peppers and onion and I don't know what else.


Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán




Kimpatsu Hekigan


Jan 23, 2007, 9:17 PM

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La Costeña makes a diced tomato (tomate pelado machacado) product that's just tomatoes and salt (unfortunately, a lot of salt). Comes in a 350-gram Tetra-Pak.

I've never seen tomato paste in Mexico.

FWIW,

-- K.H.


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After enlightenment: Chop wood, haul water.




Cynthia7

Jan 23, 2007, 9:29 PM

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We have a new Commercial Mega in SMA and it has been said they had large cans of tomato paste for a minute. On occassion, we hear of cans of whole tomatoes. I didn't know if his was just local or all over Mexico. I was told that lesser quality tomatoes are used to make tomato sauce and that was the reason for so much sauce in Mexico. The crushed tomatoes are delicious in soups and I can buy those here. Fresh tomatoes are delicious but some things I like to use the canned ones for certain dishes.


esperanza

Jan 23, 2007, 9:31 PM

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Whole canned tomatoes.........I've never seen any here.
Crushed..............................I've never looked for it here.
Sauce................................I've never looked for it here.
Purée.................................Del Fuerte, in tetrapaks of various sizes. Excellent product.
Paste.................................I've never looked for it here.
Catsup...............................Heinz, imported from USA.

I use catsup and/or fresh tomatoes in the meat mix (1/2 ground beef, 1/2 ground pork) if I make meatloaf.
I use fresh tomatoes, chopped, whenever tomatoes are called for in a recipe (spaghetti sauce, etc).
I use the purée (along with fresh diced) when I make regular old Mom-style chili.




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Waterlily

Jan 25, 2007, 2:47 PM

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Re: [esperanza] canned tomato products

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WalMart in Morelia and Uruapan has tubes of tomato paste that last indefinitely in the refrigerator. Have never seen crushed or chopped tomatoes in our supermarkets here. Last week Superama had bags of hydroponic tomatoes with stems attached that were very good. Probably the best we have had in Mexico.


esperanza

Jan 25, 2007, 5:11 PM

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I was in Wal-Mart just today and found myself in the canned/boxed tomato aisle. Lo and behold, there were four (yes, four) cans of Mexican brand whole tomatoes. Four.




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jennifer rose

Jan 25, 2007, 5:48 PM

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Superama in Morelia has an assortment of canned tomatoes, even imported from Italy. Costco always has the hydroponic on-the-vine tomatoes. But the tomato harvest in my own garden has already started.


Bubba

Jan 29, 2007, 9:16 PM

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I have no problem buying whole canned tomatoes along with tomato paste, sauce, puree or crushed at Lake Chapala. But then, just the other day at Lake Chapala´s Super Lake (Lourdes for fatsos) , I found excellent picked lump crab meat from Indonesia - the quality of which I haven´t seen since I left the Alabama coast. Lake Chapala is an exception of course. I immediately took some home and made crab cakes. Man oh man!

I use diced whole canned tomatoes from Italy along with fresh basil, Italian parsley and Reggiano Parmesan with tons of chopped garlic to make spaghetti the way Luciano Pavarotti loves it and we are about the same size. This dish is actually better with canned tomatoes than fresh tomatoes.


MazDee

Jan 29, 2007, 9:36 PM

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Re: [Bubba] canned tomato products

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Wait till you spend a few months in Chiapas without all that fancy food! You will know how we who live out in the provinces feel when we read your descriptions of Lakeside cuisine. Oh, for just a little piece of real Parmesan.


Bubba

Jan 30, 2007, 10:22 AM

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MazDee:

You have hit upon an important subject. People at Lake Chapala bitch because Pancho at Super Lake wants $500 Pesos or more per kilo of the finest parmesan or Roquefort. The thing is, you don´t buy a kilo and this stuff is damned expensive in the U.S. or anywhere else. He has to transport this expensive stuff down here and at least you can get it for the occasional splurge. Some Lake Chapala residents lose track of how lucky we are to have access to this stuff at any price.

I took home that fabulous picked crab meat which I blended with Zatarains New Orleans style Crab Cake Mix and those crab cakes were the best I´ve had in years. That delicious crab meat was expensive but in the Guadalajara/Lake Chapala area you can buy nothing like it. Go Pancho!


MazDee

Jan 30, 2007, 11:07 AM

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Yes, it's all about the option. I wouldn't buy Reggiano parmesan every week, maybe not every month, but for a special dish I would pay whatever it took. Same with your fancy crab meat. We learn to get by with what we have, and we can learn to cook great Mexican food with some wonderful ingredients that we probably couldn't find up north. But for any kind of "foreign" (to México) food, cooking often means substituting to the point that the original is hardly recognizable. And it seems to me that the longer people are here, the more they forget what good Italian or Chinese or Middle Eastern food is supposed to taste like. Gringos here will rave about a new restaurant, and I am invariably disappointed. What are they thinking? What happened to the old taste buds?


Bubba

Jan 30, 2007, 1:17 PM

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And it seems to me that the longer people are here, the more they forget what good Italian or Chinese or Middle Eastern food is supposed to taste like. Gringos here will rave about a new restaurant, and I am invariably disappointed. What are they thinking? What happened to the old taste buds?

Absolutely on target, MazDee:

There is this new restaurant in Ajijic that specializes in what they call crab cakes where they use surimi (processed pollock injected with artificial flavors) as a crab substitute and some locals rave about it. It´s not even remotely the same thing. Most restaurants at Lake Chapala serving food favored by the expat community bland down everything . Then, you go into a Mexican restaurant and that is often blanded down as well.

Eating out here at Lakeside reminds me of Frances McDormand playing the pregnant sheriff in FARGO stuffing herself at the Ramada Inn luncheon buffet in some Minnesota hick town with her husband and going, "Have some more of this fricassee hon, it´s all you can eat y´ know, eh?"

If it´s thursday and we´re at Lakeside it must be canned salmon croquettes with watery mashed potatoes, overcooked string beans, homemade jello mold with canned pineapple chunks and Cool Whip with the maraschino cherry on top accompanied by sweet tea 2X1, third glass $10 Pesos. Don´t forget to chew on the toothpick when exiting the restaurant and sauntering out to your car to denote your satisfaction and need for an afternoon nap.




bournemouth

Jan 30, 2007, 3:54 PM

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Ooh, ooh - obviously I've missed out on the place that serves stuff this interesting - please, pretty please, tell us where it is Bubba.


Anonimo

Jan 30, 2007, 4:19 PM

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I'm having a great time, cooking at home, substituting where necessary.
I buy "Queso Reggianito" at Costco, and it "works" for Formaggio Parmigiano applications.
I will agree, that many "international" restaurants are a disappointment.
Have a look at my comida casera .

Buen provecho,
Anonimo


MazDee

Jan 30, 2007, 6:44 PM

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Anon, every time I look at your beautiful pictures, I get so hungry! Especially all those breads. I too use parmesan Reggianito and it is ok. Just like I used to buy domestic parmesan in the US most of the time. But, once in a while I could splurge and have the real thing. I could probably eat a quarter pound of Reggiano parmesan by myself, by itself, if I could afford to. That is not an option here. I probably wouldn't go so far as Bubba to spend a fortune on imported Italian tomatoes. I am so used to substituting boxed tomato puree and chopped Roma tomatoes in my recipes that well, what did I say before, what's happening to MY tastebuds? Using your imagination and good cooking skills, you can put out wonderful meals, even here on the frontier. But there always will be flavors that I miss. I think I want a Reuben sandwich right now. Oh, well.


Anonimo

Jan 31, 2007, 2:23 AM

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Re: [MazDee] Reuben Sandwich

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I think I want a Reuben sandwich right now. Oh, well.

With some work and patience, one can turn pecho de res into corned beef, and even pastrami. (But more work.) The sauerkraut is not overwhelmingly difficult, but for those of us in Michoacán, the rye flour to make sour rye bread is very hard to find.

The aderezo Mil Islas is a breeze. We're just talking a couple of days' work and a waiting period of say, 2 weeks. ;-)

Buen provecho,
Anonimo


Bloviator

Jan 31, 2007, 5:48 AM

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If you live Lakeside or anywhere on the route from Laredo to Lakeside, you only need to ask Gringolandia to bring you corned beef when he goes NoB again. For some reason that I can't begin to fathom, he has made bringing immense amounts of corned beef here from NoB for those who ask his mission in life. Last trip he returned with ten packages for an array of friends.

He's truly a prince among men.


Bubba

Jan 31, 2007, 7:50 AM

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