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fordmexico

Sep 16, 2012, 10:50 AM

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Nouvelle Cuisine in Old Mexico

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Here is a link to an Oxford University Press Blog piece on how chefs have created the "nueva cocina mexicana" that transforms some of the traditional and indigenous Mexican dishes into high cuisine. Three recipes are included.

http://blog.oup.com/2012/09/nouvelle-cuisine-in-old-mexico/



rayitodeluna

Nov 30, 2012, 10:12 AM

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Re: [fordmexico] Nouvelle Cuisine in Old Mexico

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Thanks for the link!

I look forward to trying the cannied stuff chili rellenos mentioned, I have never heard of chili rellenos with jam. Interesting blend!

http://blog.oup.com/...isine-in-old-mexico/

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La Isla


Nov 30, 2012, 10:16 AM

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Re: [rayitodeluna] Nouvelle Cuisine in Old Mexico

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Thanks for the link!

I look forward to trying the cannied stuff chili rellenos mentioned, I have never heard of chili rellenos with jam. Interesting blend!



Just the idea of a chile relleno filled with jam turns me off, but that's just me :).


esperanza

Nov 30, 2012, 11:59 AM

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Pilcher's whole article is about 'Nouvelle Cuisine in Old Mexico', but he fails to mention any of the current fabulous Mexican chefs--who would cringe if they heard their food being called 'Nouvelle Cuisine'. 'Nouvelle Cuisine' is one particular style of French cooking, copied in the USA and other countries but not in Mexico, that has long been out of fashion.

Enrique Olvera, Javier Plascencia, Mikel Alonso, Alejandro Ruiz, Marta Ortiz Chapa, Ricardo Muñoz Zurita, Lucero Soto, Margarita Salinas de Carrillo, Marta Zepeda, and a number of other chefs of their quality would be far better representatives of modern Mexico's cocina de autor.

Pilcher's article appears to have been researched on Google and Wikipedia, not in person here in Mexico.




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rayitodeluna

Nov 30, 2012, 5:16 PM

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Re: [La Isla] Nouvelle Cuisine in Old Mexico

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Thanks for the link!

I look forward to trying the cannied stuff chili rellenos mentioned, I have never heard of chili rellenos with jam. Interesting blend!



Just the idea of a chile relleno filled with jam turns me off, but that's just me :).


I dont particularly love jam but I DO love chiles with sweet things. They were selling chocolate dipped jalapeños in the mercado the other day and they were delicious! Was hoping the jam would be the same idea.

Kinda the same concept (I am assuming) as the sweet fillings in the savory dish Chiles en Nogada (which I LOVE).

(Edited for spelling)

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(This post was edited by rayitodeluna on Nov 30, 2012, 9:12 PM)


rayitodeluna

Nov 30, 2012, 5:20 PM

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Pilcher's whole article is about 'Nouvelle Cuisine in Old Mexico', but he fails to mention any of the current fabulous Mexican chefs--who would cringe if they heard their food being called 'Nouvelle Cuisine'. 'Nouvelle Cuisine' is one particular style of French cooking, copied in the USA and other countries but not in Mexico, that has long been out of fashion.

Enrique Olvera, Javier Plascencia, Mikel Alonso, Alejandro Ruiz, Marta Ortiz Chapa, Ricardo Muñoz Zurita, Lucero Soto, Margarita Salinas de Carrillo, Marta Zepeda, and a number of other chefs of their quality would be far better representatives of modern Mexico's cocina de autor.

Pilcher's article appears to have been researched on Google and Wikipedia, not in person here in Mexico.


Interesting. (And disappointing) I wouldnt be able to name any famous
Mexican chefs either, but would love to check out some of their creations (since we are here in person, might as well enjoy it!). Do you have any write ups on your blogs on these great chefs, or recommendations?

And did you write up your bakery tour yet? We are all waiting in anticipation ;)

~~~~~~ Enjoying life in northern D.F. with our family of Americans and chilangos.
Family and expat blog here : http://threecurlygirlys.blogspot.mx/ ~~~~~~


La Isla


Nov 30, 2012, 5:26 PM

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Thanks for the link!

I look forward to trying the cannied stuff chili rellenos mentioned, I have never heard of chili rellenos with jam. Interesting blend!



Just the idea of a chile relleno filled with jam turns me off, but that's just me :).


I dont particularly love jam but I DO love chiles with sweet things. They were selling chocolate dipped jalapeños in the mercado the other day and they were delicious! Was hopping the jam would be the same idea.

Kinda the same concept (I am assuming) as the sweet fillings in the savory dish Chiles en
Nogada (which I LOVE).


I do like jam and have taken to putting it on my tortillas integrales for breakfast in lieu of bread. I adore chiles en nogada, but the sweetness is in the sauce, I think, not so much in the yummy stuffing. I do not like chile-flavored candy and give away any I get to my students, who seem to think that chile goes with anything!


tashby


Nov 30, 2012, 6:22 PM

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They were selling chocolate dipped jalapeños


WOW! What am I living under, a rock? I'd like to run into some of those one day.


esperanza

Nov 30, 2012, 9:06 PM

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The difference between you and Pilcher is that it is his job to know who the buzzword Mexican chefs are when he is writing an article about modern Mexican cuisine. You are not required to know.

Yes, some of the chefs are featured on Mexico Cooks!. There's a fully functioning search engine on the top right side of the page; just type in a name and if I've written about that person, or an ingredient that you are curious about, etc, then you will be directed to the appropriate article.

The bakery crawl article will publish on Saturday, December 1, 2012, at 10AM.




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rayitodeluna

Nov 30, 2012, 9:11 PM

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The difference between you and Pilcher is that it is his job to know who the buzzword Mexican chefs are when he is writing an article about modern Mexican cuisine. You are not required to know.

Yes, some of the chefs are featured on Mexico Cooks!. There's a fully functioning search engine on the top right side of the page; just type in a name and if I've written about that person, or an ingredient that you are curious about, etc, then you will be directed to the appropriate article.

The bakery crawl article will publish on Saturday, December 1, 2012, at 10AM.


Glad I have an excuse ;) I wasnt excusing his apparent lack of real research, merely commenting that I didnt know enough of a difference to know that the article was lacking.

I will have a look sometime at the blog and see what we can find to try new! Thank you. And DEFINATELY look forward to the bakery crawl post .

~~~~~~ Enjoying life in northern D.F. with our family of Americans and chilangos.
Family and expat blog here : http://threecurlygirlys.blogspot.mx/ ~~~~~~


rayitodeluna

Nov 30, 2012, 9:14 PM

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They were selling chocolate dipped jalapeños


WOW! What am I living under, a rock? I'd like to run into some of those one day.


(Forgive me for not knowing) Are you in Mexico City or the surrounding area? I will keep an eye out or an ear open for whe they have them available. Interesting flavor, worth trying and more than once. ;)

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tonyburton


Nov 30, 2012, 9:38 PM

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I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread.
Surely, the Pilcher article has nothing to do with modern cuisine!
It gives three nineteenth-century recipes, and is an interesting HISTORICAL take on Mexican cuisine...


Bennie García

Dec 1, 2012, 5:25 AM

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I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread.
Surely, the Pilcher article has nothing to do with modern cuisine!
It gives three nineteenth-century recipes, and is an interesting HISTORICAL take on Mexican cuisine...


jejejeje.....the emperor has no clothes.


esperanza

Dec 1, 2012, 6:01 AM

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Thought I pointed that out in my first comment. Pilcher, who wrote an article titled "Nouvelle Cuisine in Old Mexico", obviously did not know anything about the current situation with modern Mexican food and never bothered to find out anything about it. They should have asked me to write it.




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tashby


Dec 1, 2012, 8:00 AM

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Re: the chocolate covered jalapenos. Very kind of you, rayitodeluna, but no I'm nowhere near Mexico City. I live at Lake Chapala, so in that sense, I am in fact living under a rock.

Besides, I hardly ever look at candies and that sort of thing, so it's possible I've walked right past them.


(This post was edited by tashby on Dec 1, 2012, 8:01 AM)


Bennie García

Dec 1, 2012, 8:02 AM

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Thought I pointed that out in my first comment. Pilcher, who wrote an article titled "Nouvelle Cuisine in Old Mexico", obviously did not know anything about the current situation with modern Mexican food and never bothered to find out anything about it. They should have asked me to write it.


Were they looking for an article on present, pretentious Mexican cuisine? Food that will pass from fashionable in less than a decade?


esperanza

Dec 1, 2012, 9:18 AM

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Bennie, it's hard to say what they were looking for. The Pilcher article certainly did not cover what the title suggested.

But I completely agree with you, this trendy new cocina de autor will pass from fashion in Mexico--and the rest of the world--in the not-too-far-distant future. I, for one, am heartily sick of it already.




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rayitodeluna

Dec 1, 2012, 12:46 PM

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Re: the chocolate covered jalapenos. Very kind of you, rayitodeluna, but no I'm nowhere near Mexico City. I live at Lake Chapala, so in that sense, I am in fact living under a rock.

Besides, I hardly ever look at candies and that sort of thing, so it's possible I've walked right past them.


:) maybe you will run into them one day then, you have hope yet! In our mercado it was someone selling handmade chocolate covered items - marshmallows, cherries, strawberries, chiles, apples.

(And LOL about figurtively and literally living under a rock !)

~~~~~~ Enjoying life in northern D.F. with our family of Americans and chilangos.
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