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Rolly


Aug 1, 2006, 4:26 PM

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A question about Chiles en Nogada

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Today, as every Tuesday, I had lunch at Doña Martha's house. She lets me chose the Tuesday menu. Today I asked for chiles rellenos. I've seen her cook that many times, so I wasn't watching -- I was napping in la sala in front of the AC -- so I was surprised to see the chiles served in a very tasty tomato and cream sauce rather than fried in an egg batter. Very good, in fact better than the fried version.

I asked her the name of the dish. I was a bit puzzled when she said "Chiles en nogada" because there were no nuts in the sauce. When I got home, I asked Enrique about it. He said that is the common way in this part of Mexico.

Comments? Anyone else familiar with chiles en nogada without nuts?

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esperanza

Aug 1, 2006, 4:42 PM

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Re: [Rolly] A question about Chiles en Nogada

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Given that 'en nogada' means (loosely translated) 'with nuts'...no. If you do a 'search posts' for chiles en nogada, you'll find a recipe that I posted a few years back.




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Anonimo

Aug 1, 2006, 4:54 PM

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Re: [Rolly] A question about Chiles en Nogada

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I don't have the answer to that one, but I will say that in general, I don't like chiles rellenos capeados. I hate when the slightly oily eggy batter gets softened by the tomato sauce.
I have had chiles in nogada twice. The first time, at the *famed place* in Mexico City, I could not eat them, The overly rich, barely warm sauce, over a mass of picadillo-stuffed chile, was just too much.

Then I had the dish at a restaurant in SMA. It was much better, as the sauce was less rich and especially, the chiles were not covered in batter. Actually, I think the chef had had to improvise a bit, but the results were preferable.

On the whole, though, I can easily skip this specialty.

Saludos,
Anonimo


N2Futur

Aug 2, 2006, 8:20 AM

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Re: [Anonimo] A question about Chiles en Nogada

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Here's the recipe Esperanza referred to. It took me about 4 hours to make them the first time. It's one of my all-time favorite Mexican dishes (I used pork only):


Here's one version of Chiles En Nogada, courtesy of Cocina de la Familia: More Than 200 Authentic Recipes from Mexican-American Home Kitchens by Marilyn Tausend with Miguel Ravago. Copyright © Fireside, Simon & Schuster, Inc., New York, NY.



This festive dish, resplendent with the colors of the Mexican flag, is traditionally served on September 15 or 16 in honor of Mexico's Independence Day, though it is popular anytime in the late summer and fall when the walnuts are fresh and the pomegranates abundant. During August and September in the highlands of Mexico, particularly in Mexico City and Puebla on the streets bordering the markets, village women can be seen sitting on blankets painstakingly peeling off the brown skin from each individual walnut. It is important to use the freshest walnuts possible, as they produce such a creamy, rich sauce that it is worth the effort demanded to peel them.

For the Meat
  • 2 pounds beef brisket or other stew meat or 1 pound beef and 1 pound pork butt
  • 1 small white onion, quartered
  • 2 large cloves garlic
  • about 1 Tablespoon sea salt


For the Picadillo
  • 4 Tablespoons safflower or canola oil
  • 1/3 cup chopped white onion
  • 3 large cloves garlic, minced
  • 1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon (cassia)
  • 1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
  • 1/8 teaspoon ground cloves
  • 3 heaping Tablespoons raisins
  • 2 Tablespoons chopped walnuts or pecans
  • 2 Tablespoons chopped candied pineapple
  • 1 fresh pear, peeled and chopped
  • 1 apple, peeled and chopped
  • 1 large potato, peeled and diced
  • 3 large, ripe tomatoes roasted, peeled and chopped, or 1 (28-ounce) can chopped tomatoes, with juice
  • kosher salt to taste


For the Chiles
  • 6 fresh poblano chiles, roasted, peeled, and seeded, leaving the stem intact


For the Walnut Sauce
  • 1 cup fresh walnuts
  • 6 ounces cream cheese (not fat free) at room temperature
  • 1-1/2 cups Mexican crema or 1-1/4 cups sour cream thinned with milk
  • about 1/2 teaspoon sea salt
  • 1 Tablespoon sugar (optional)
  • 1/8 teaspoon ground cinnamon (cassia) (optional)
  • 1/4 cup dry sherry (optional)


For the Garnish
  • 1 Tablespoon chopped flat-leaf parsley or cilantro leaves
  • 1/2 cup pomegranate seeds


Cut the meat into large chunks, removing any excess fat. Place the meat into a large Dutch oven with the onion, garlic, and salt. Cover with cold water and bring to a boil over medium-high heat. Skim off any foam that collects on the surface. Lower the heat and allow the water to simmer about 45 minutes, until the meat is just tender. Take the pot off the stove and let the meat cool in the broth. Remove the pieces of meat and finely shred them. (If making stuffed chiles with a tomato sauce rather than the walnut sauce, save the broth.)

Warm the oil in a large, heavy skillet and sauté the onion and garlic over medium heat until they turn a pale gold. Stir in the shredded meat and cook for 5 minutes. Add the cinnamon, pepper, and cloves, then, stir in the raisins, the 2 Tablespoons chopped walnuts. Add the chopped pear, apple, and potato, and mix well. Add the tomatoes and salt to taste, and continue cooking over medium-high heat until most of the moisture has evaporated. Stir often so that the mixture doesn't stick. Let cool, cover, and set aside. The picadillo may be made 1 day in advance.

Make a slit down the side of each chile, just long enough to remove the seeds and veins. Keep the stem end intact. Drain the chiles on absorbent paper until completely dry. Cover and set aside. The chiles may be prepared 1 day in advance.

At least 3 hours in advance, place the 1 cup walnuts in a small pan of boiling water. Remove from the heat and let them sit for 5 minutes. Drain the nuts and, when cool, rub off as much of the dark skin as possible. Chop into small pieces. Place the nuts, cream cheese, crema, and salt in a blender and purée thoroughly. Stir in the optional sugar, cinnamon, and sherry, if using, until thoroughly combined. Chill for several hours.

Preheat the oven to 250ºF. When ready to serve, reheat the meat filling and stuff the chiles until plump and just barely closed. Put the filled chiles, covered, to warm in the oven. After they are thoroughly heated, place the chiles on a serving platter or on individual plates, cover with the chilled walnut sauce, and sprinkle with the cilantro (or parsley) and pomegranate seeds.

This dish may also be served at room temperature, or it may be served chilled.






Enjoy your Chiles En Nogada, and ¡VIVA MEXICO! ¡QUE VIVA!


Elke
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"When choosing between two evils, I always like to pick the one I never tried before." - Mae West

(This post was edited by N2Futur on Aug 2, 2006, 8:22 AM)


Bubba

Aug 2, 2006, 1:46 PM

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Re: [Rolly] A question about Chiles en Nogada

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That sounds good Rolly but I don´t believe that´s the same chiles en nogada served in Jalisco seasonally which, in my experience, has a white sauce with no tomato and is covered with pomegranate seeds. If I am not mistaken, the chiles en nogada in Jalisco are stuffed with walnuts and fruits such as raisins. This is a great treat that some restaurants serve all year round I believe but strikes me as best enjoyed in a restaurant you like rather than at home as it seems a pain to make.


Rolly


Aug 2, 2006, 2:28 PM

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Re: [Bubba] A question about Chiles en Nogada

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It was quite good. I'm going back over there tomorrow for a fish fry. I'll try to find out what all she put in the sauce. Then maybe I can come up with a better name for the dish. Maybe Chiles de Lerdo.

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esperanza

Aug 2, 2006, 2:30 PM

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Or Chiles Sin Nogada Estilo Doña Marta.




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