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Rox Anne

Aug 5, 2002, 7:53 AM

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what' s the english equivalent

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it's an animal that lives in the mountains of mexico (like a big rat)
"tlacoatche" not even sure how to write it in spanish but what is it???

Quevedo

Aug 5, 2002, 9:07 AM

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Tlacuache

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<center><img src="http://www.franquiciapemex.com/octanaje/octa29/images/tlaco1.jpg"></center><p>

Goet

Aug 5, 2002, 11:02 AM

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Very interesting

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I saw one of these things on a nice leisurely jaunt through a small pueblo called Canticas, Veracruz. Now I have a name to put to its ugly mug.

DavidMTY

Aug 5, 2002, 11:57 AM

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&quot;Possum&quot;...

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It is a general term which in English translates to Possum where I am from, or more properly "Opossum". The Common species, _Didelphis marsupialis_ Linnaeus (1758) (mispelled in the link provided by Quevedo) was named by Karl von Linné in his book that invented animal scientific nomenclature in 1758, "Natural Systematics."<p>As it is a general name, there are about 75 species worldwide to which it applies. A few occur in Mexico. Most are sadly common "roadkill" another name which unfortunately almost fits.<p>The little one in Quevedo's link in English is the:
Mexican Mouse Possum (Opossum)<p>The Common Possum you probably saw, which I mention above looks just like the US species, the Virginia Possum, which hillbilly's have been know to eat, and have whiter snouts but otherwise look alike.<p>The Water Possum mentioned in Quevedo's interesting, but inaccurate link, should be _Chironectes minimus_, is incorrectly identified as to the Hononectes genus (scientific name) as far as I can tell.<p>There is nothing particularly odd or exotic about these marsupials in Mexico, especially for some of the other members of the Possum family, though some of the Mexican species are at risk of extinction and hopefully we can conserve them.<p>Best...David(MTY) gone hunting possum with Daisy Duke. (just with a camera)<p><p>: it's an animal that lives in the mountains of mexico (like a big rat)
: "tlacoatche" not even sure how to write it in spanish but what is it???<p>

Sean

Aug 5, 2002, 1:36 PM

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Wow!!

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Hi there, BIG boy!! I just love how knowledgable and EXPERIENCED you are. I just envy 'lucky' Steve!!.<p>Best, Sean :)<p><p><p><p>
: It is a general term which in English translates to Possum where I am from, or more properly "Opossum". The Common species, _Didelphis marsupialis_ Linnaeus (1758) (mispelled in the link provided by Quevedo) was named by Karl von Linné in his book that invented animal scientific nomenclature in 1758, "Natural Systematics."<p>: As it is a general name, there are about 75 species worldwide to which it applies. A few occur in Mexico. Most are sadly common "roadkill" another name which unfortunately almost fits.<p>: The little one in Quevedo's link in English is the:
: Mexican Mouse Possum (Opossum)<p>: The Common Possum you probably saw, which I mention above looks just like the US species, the Virginia Possum, which hillbilly's have been know to eat, and have whiter snouts but otherwise look alike.<p>: The Water Possum mentioned in Quevedo's interesting, but inaccurate link, should be _Chironectes minimus_, is incorrectly identified as to the Hononectes genus (scientific name) as far as I can tell.<p>: There is nothing particularly odd or exotic about these marsupials in Mexico, especially for some of the other members of the Possum family, though some of the Mexican species are at risk of extinction and hopefully we can conserve them.<p>: Best...David(MTY) gone hunting possum with Daisy Duke. (just with a camera)<p>
: : it's an animal that lives in the mountains of mexico (like a big rat)
: : "tlacoatche" not even sure how to write it in spanish but what is it???<p>

Lalo

Aug 5, 2002, 1:47 PM

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Lalo says Hi too!!....nfmsg

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: Hi there, BIG boy!! I just love how knowledgable and EXPERIENCED you are. I just envy 'lucky' Steve!!.<p>: Best, Sean :)<p><p>
:
: : It is a general term which in English translates to Possum where I am from, or more properly "Opossum". The Common species, _Didelphis marsupialis_ Linnaeus (1758) (mispelled in the link provided by Quevedo) was named by Karl von Linné in his book that invented animal scientific nomenclature in 1758, "Natural Systematics."<p>: : As it is a general name, there are about 75 species worldwide to which it applies. A few occur in Mexico. Most are sadly common "roadkill" another name which unfortunately almost fits.<p>: : The little one in Quevedo's link in English is the:
: : Mexican Mouse Possum (Opossum)<p>: : The Common Possum you probably saw, which I mention above looks just like the US species, the Virginia Possum, which hillbilly's have been know to eat, and have whiter snouts but otherwise look alike.<p>: : The Water Possum mentioned in Quevedo's interesting, but inaccurate link, should be _Chironectes minimus_, is incorrectly identified as to the Hononectes genus (scientific name) as far as I can tell.<p>: : There is nothing particularly odd or exotic about these marsupials in Mexico, especially for some of the other members of the Possum family, though some of the Mexican species are at risk of extinction and hopefully we can conserve them.<p>: : Best...David(MTY) gone hunting possum with Daisy Duke. (just with a camera)<p>:
: : : it's an animal that lives in the mountains of mexico (like a big rat)
: : : "tlacoatche" not even sure how to write it in spanish but what is it???<p>

Quevedo

Aug 5, 2002, 6:28 PM

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Tlacuaches y más tlacuaches

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Para todas y todos los que se interesen en más información sobre tlacuaches, <I>Google</I> ofrece, por ejemplo:<p>http://www.conabio.gob.mx/conocimiento/regionalizacion/doctos/rhp_092.html
http://www.semarnat.gob.mx/regiones/selva_lacandona/fauna.shtml
http://www.ine.gob.mx/ueajei/mamiferos1_4.html
http://www.damisela.com/zoo/mam/marsupialia/didelphidae/nombres.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Library/3317/opossum.htm
http://maya.ucr.edu/pril/reservas/montesazules/montesazules6.html
http://www.planeta.com/ecotravel/mexico/parques/morelos.html<p>Después de eso, seremos verdaderos expertos y expertas en tlacuaches y demás marsupiales y yerbas.<p>Tal vez más divertido, y quizá más en línea con el objetivo de este foro español, sea recordar al inolvidable Cri-Cri:<p><I>Ahí viene el tlacuache
cargando un tambache
por todas las calles
de la gran ciudad.<p>El señor Tlacuache
compra cachivaches
y para comprarlos
suele pregonar: <p>¡Botellas que vendan!
¡Zapatooos usadooos!
Sombreros estropeados,
pantalones remendados:
cambio, vendo y compro por igual. <p>¡Chamacos malcriados!
¡Miedosos que vendaaan!
Y niños que acostumbren
dar chillidos o gritar:
cambio, vendo y compro por igual.<p>¡Papeles que vendaaan!
¡Periódicos viejooos!
Tiliches chamuscados
y trebejos cuatrapeados:
Cambio, vendo y compro por igual.<p>¡Comadres chismosas!
¡Cotorras latosaaas!
Y viejas regañonas
pa' meter en mi costal:
Cambio, vendo y compro,
compro, vendo y cambio;
¡Cambio, vendo y compro por igual!</I><p><FONT SIZE=-2>José Gabilondo Soler, <I>Cri-Cri</I></FONT><p>
Un saludo cordial,<p>Quevedo<p>
P.D.: ¿De dónde viene la palabra <I>tlacuache?</I> ¿Por qué hizo ropavejero Cri-Cri al Sr. Tlacuache?

Rory

Aug 5, 2002, 6:51 PM

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&quot;Possum&quot;...

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Seems like you are a BIG man on campus!<p>What else aren't you tellimg us? Grande e experimentado? Guauuuu! Que interesante! Espero que Steve no es un tipo celoso!<p>: It is a general term which in English translates to Possum where I am from, or more properly "Opossum". The Common species, _Didelphis marsupialis_ Linnaeus (1758) (mispelled in the link provided by Quevedo) was named by Karl von Linné in his book that invented animal scientific nomenclature in 1758, "Natural Systematics."<p>: As it is a general name, there are about 75 species worldwide to which it applies. A few occur in Mexico. Most are sadly common "roadkill" another name which unfortunately almost fits.<p>: The little one in Quevedo's link in English is the:
: Mexican Mouse Possum (Opossum)<p>: The Common Possum you probably saw, which I mention above looks just like the US species, the Virginia Possum, which hillbilly's have been know to eat, and have whiter snouts but otherwise look alike.<p>: The Water Possum mentioned in Quevedo's interesting, but inaccurate link, should be _Chironectes minimus_, is incorrectly identified as to the Hononectes genus (scientific name) as far as I can tell.<p>: There is nothing particularly odd or exotic about these marsupials in Mexico, especially for some of the other members of the Possum family, though some of the Mexican species are at risk of extinction and hopefully we can conserve them.<p>: Best...David(MTY) gone hunting possum with Daisy Duke. (just with a camera)<p>
: : it's an animal that lives in the mountains of mexico (like a big rat)
: : "tlacoatche" not even sure how to write it in spanish but what is it???<p>

Nip

Aug 6, 2002, 5:34 AM

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Tlacuaches

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I went to the article on tlacuaches and found these two words that I wasnt familiar with; can someone translate please:<p>coladeras, alcantarillas<p>TIA<p>: Para todas y todos los que se interesen en más información sobre tlacuaches, <I>Google</I> ofrece, por ejemplo:<p>: http://www.conabio.gob.mx/conocimiento/regionalizacion/doctos/rhp_092.html
: http://www.semarnat.gob.mx/regiones/selva_lacandona/fauna.shtml
: http://www.ine.gob.mx/ueajei/mamiferos1_4.html
: http://www.damisela.com/zoo/mam/marsupialia/didelphidae/nombres.htm
: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Library/3317/opossum.htm
: http://maya.ucr.edu/pril/reservas/montesazules/montesazules6.html
: http://www.planeta.com/ecotravel/mexico/parques/morelos.html<p>: Después de eso, seremos verdaderos expertos y expertas en tlacuaches y demás marsupiales y yerbas.<p>: Tal vez más divertido, y quizá más en línea con el objetivo de este foro español, sea recordar al inolvidable Cri-Cri:<p>: <I>Ahí viene el tlacuache
: cargando un tambache
: por todas las calles
: de la gran ciudad.<p>: El señor Tlacuache
: compra cachivaches
: y para comprarlos
: suele pregonar: <p>: ¡Botellas que vendan!
: ¡Zapatooos usadooos!
: Sombreros estropeados,
: pantalones remendados:
: cambio, vendo y compro por igual. <p>: ¡Chamacos malcriados!
: ¡Miedosos que vendaaan!
: Y niños que acostumbren
: dar chillidos o gritar:
: cambio, vendo y compro por igual.<p>: ¡Papeles que vendaaan!
: ¡Periódicos viejooos!
: Tiliches chamuscados
: y trebejos cuatrapeados:
: Cambio, vendo y compro por igual.<p>: ¡Comadres chismosas!
: ¡Cotorras latosaaas!
: Y viejas regañonas
: pa' meter en mi costal:
: Cambio, vendo y compro,
: compro, vendo y cambio;
: ¡Cambio, vendo y compro por igual!</I><p>: <FONT SIZE=-2>José Gabilondo Soler, <I>Cri-Cri</I></FONT><p>:
: Un saludo cordial,<p>: Quevedo<p>:
: P.D.: ¿De dónde viene la palabra <I>tlacuache?</I> ¿Por qué hizo ropavejero Cri-Cri al Sr. Tlacuache?<p>

Quevedo

Aug 7, 2002, 2:08 PM

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Sewer

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: coladeras, alcantarillas<p>Sewer.<p>Maybe more experienced translators would like to help here.<p>Saludos,<p>Quevedo

Mereja

Aug 7, 2002, 3:35 PM

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Tlacuaches

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coladera - strainer, colander, sieve:
alcantarilla - culvert, drain, sewer under ground<p>I went to the article on tlacuaches and found these two words that I wasnt familiar with; can someone translate please:<p>: coladeras, alcantarillas<p>: TIA<p>: : Para todas y todos los que se interesen en más información sobre tlacuaches, <I>Google</I> ofrece, por ejemplo:<p>: : http://www.conabio.gob.mx/conocimiento/regionalizacion/doctos/rhp_092.html
: : http://www.semarnat.gob.mx/regiones/selva_lacandona/fauna.shtml
: : http://www.ine.gob.mx/ueajei/mamiferos1_4.html
: : http://www.damisela.com/zoo/mam/marsupialia/didelphidae/nombres.htm
: : http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Library/3317/opossum.htm
: : http://maya.ucr.edu/pril/reservas/montesazules/montesazules6.html
: : http://www.planeta.com/ecotravel/mexico/parques/morelos.html<p>: : Después de eso, seremos verdaderos expertos y expertas en tlacuaches y demás marsupiales y yerbas.<p>: : Tal vez más divertido, y quizá más en línea con el objetivo de este foro español, sea recordar al inolvidable Cri-Cri:<p>: : <I>Ahí viene el tlacuache
: : cargando un tambache
: : por todas las calles
: : de la gran ciudad.<p>: : El señor Tlacuache
: : compra cachivaches
: : y para comprarlos
: : suele pregonar: <p>: : ¡Botellas que vendan!
: : ¡Zapatooos usadooos!
: : Sombreros estropeados,
: : pantalones remendados:
: : cambio, vendo y compro por igual. <p>: : ¡Chamacos malcriados!
: : ¡Miedosos que vendaaan!
: : Y niños que acostumbren
: : dar chillidos o gritar:
: : cambio, vendo y compro por igual.<p>: : ¡Papeles que vendaaan!
: : ¡Periódicos viejooos!
: : Tiliches chamuscados
: : y trebejos cuatrapeados:
: : Cambio, vendo y compro por igual.<p>: : ¡Comadres chismosas!
: : ¡Cotorras latosaaas!
: : Y viejas regañonas
: : pa' meter en mi costal:
: : Cambio, vendo y compro,
: : compro, vendo y cambio;
: : ¡Cambio, vendo y compro por igual!</I><p>: : <FONT SIZE=-2>José Gabilondo Soler, <I>Cri-Cri</I></FONT><p>: :
: : Un saludo cordial,<p>: : Quevedo<p>: :
: : P.D.: ¿De dónde viene la palabra <I>tlacuache?</I> ¿Por qué hizo ropavejero Cri-Cri al Sr. Tlacuache?<p>

Hank Duckman

Aug 9, 2002, 8:53 PM

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Sewer

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Estimado Sr. Quevedo;<p>: : coladeras, alcantarillas
: Sewer.<p>Por lo menos en esta región de Mexico, se usa la palabra coladera para "drain" y alcantarilla para lo que se llamaria en los E.U. "storm drain", una salida para agua cayendo durante una tormenta. Un plomero refereria a la reja al fondo de un lavabo o tina como "coladera", en ingles, "drain".<p>Saludos;<p>Hank<p>

Delicioso

Sep 17, 2002, 7:01 AM

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&quot;Possum&quot;...

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El tlacuachito también se come acá en México. Se pela, se pone a coser, y muchos piensan que el caldo (tal como la carne) es muy saludable y cura muchas enfermedades, por ejemplo si uno tiene la presión alta, se baja con el caldo de tlacuache.
 
 
 
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