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T

Apr 7, 2011, 6:22 PM

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Go with no one other than Jose Martinez in Chapala. 20 years experience. Speaks broken English, better understood face to face rather than on the phone. Home phone 765-3297, cell 01333174-1282. I manage several properties in Villa Nova. The gardener and others told me the multiple septic tanks had to be emptied. Called Sr Martinez, he told me he charges 2800 pesos per septic. A very reasonable price, if any of you have had a septic tank cleaned. I am looking at seven septics. This is going to cost a small fortune.

He wanted to come over and inspect the project. He did so, septic by septic

He told me that none of the septic tanks needed to be cleaned and told me what to do to keep them in condition and did not charge me a single centavo.

I am still in shock. Jose Martinez is an absolute saint and could have ripped me off for an easy 20,000 pesos, and I would have paid. Put this guy at the top of your list, he also does plumbing and not sure what else. T.



johninajijic

Apr 7, 2011, 10:23 PM

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T - This is what my excellent Contractor told me about septic tanks in this area. Don't worry about your septic tank. It should not have to be cleaned because of the porous soil with good drainage that exists in Ajijic. He told me that he lived in his house with 6 kids for 20 years and has never had it cleaned.

The soil here is so different than soil in different areas in the US.

Our homes in my Community are less than 10 years old. I saw them build every system here. They are large tanks with 3 chambers. The last chamber flows into an absorption well.

Thanks for your post on the Septic tank cleaning person.


(This post was edited by johninajijic on Apr 7, 2011, 10:25 PM)


T

Apr 8, 2011, 3:38 PM

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Thanks for your response, John. Never dealt with septic until I moved here. You are absolutely correct. We have three chambers, also. I did not know this. Thought they were each a separate tank, but could not understand why there were three tanks for each unit. Went into panic mode at the thought of cleaning six septic tanks at 2800 each. Now, I understand. Appreciate your confirmation of what I was told this morning. T


Jerry@Ajijic

Apr 8, 2011, 8:00 PM

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Another thing about septic tanks is that they will need to be cleaned less often if at all if you keep the bacteria in them active. Over a period of time the bacteria in the tanks that break (liquidfy) down the solids are killed off to some extent by detergents,bleaches, etc. When this happens you get more solids in the drain field and septic tanks and you have a problem. The answer is to put fresh bacteria in on a regular basis. Just pour it in and forget about septic problems.


sparks


Apr 9, 2011, 6:04 AM

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Anyone have a brand name and where to buy these septic additives

Sparks Mexico - Sparks Costalegre


Anonimo

Apr 9, 2011, 6:46 AM

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We've used Rid-X and Zep, and a no name product. I like Zep because it's premeasured in a tube, and thus there's less dust.

We haven't found these products in Morelia or Pátzcuaro, but friends have brought us supplies when driving in from the States.

I'd hesitate to fly with this stuff, as it looks very suspiciously like an explosive, esp. the Zep in tubes.

"En Boca Cerrada No Entran Moscas."

Saludos,
Anonimo


Jerry@Ajijic

Apr 9, 2011, 6:52 AM

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We get the additives at Super Lake. The name is

ZEP
Septic System & Cesspool cleaner.

It is located on the east wall with the detergents and is in a 12 inch tall tube shaped container.


T

Apr 9, 2011, 11:48 AM

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Great info. I will seek out the ZEP next time I am in Super Lake. T


T

Apr 9, 2011, 11:53 AM

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Appreciate you contribution, but do not understand " less dust". Do you not either flush this stuff down one of the toilets or put it directly into your septic? Please elaborate on "less dust". Thanks, T


sparks


Apr 9, 2011, 3:19 PM

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If it's a specialty item then I'll have to look at Walmart or other big box stores. Thought there may be a Mexican brand. I'm down on the coast

Sparks Mexico - Sparks Costalegre


Jerry@Ajijic

Apr 9, 2011, 6:46 PM

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T, some forms of the bacteria are pretty fine and do tend to spread some "dust" in the air when you pour them into the toilet.

Sparks, this stuff is not a specialty item. I would think that any large grocery store would have It, So wuld many pool supply stores.

The usual way I have seen it used is to pour the recommended amount into the toilet, flush it once at bed time and do not flush it again until morning.


Zardoz

Apr 10, 2011, 6:54 AM

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No bleach or other anti bacterial stuff into a septic tank. If you kill the bugs the system will not
work as fast at breaking down the solids. NO bleach in the washer or sinks if they go to the same
tank as the toilets. We had seperate systems in one house in NY so we could reuse the grey water
after it was treated to water the yard taking a load off the well in the summer. I would limit
antibacterial cleaners in the septic tank also. Note mexico is really getting into the antibacterial
thing now so watch what you buy. Also best if you have a septic tank to use soap or detergent
that can break down easily. Might want to avoid high phosphates also especially if you are close to
the lake as this creates food for the lirio. OK OK so it may be impossible to do all this but do what
you can it all helps.

Spent my youth paying for college and crawling and cleaning out your septic tank but thats another
story in itself. You earn your money when you do that job!!!

Z


robt65

Apr 14, 2011, 9:41 PM

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OK, I guess I need an education here. I have only (personally) built, installed and maintained (concrete block type, fiberglass and concrete vault type) septic systems and leach lines, for the homes I have lived in for the past 25 years. I cannot for the life of me ever remember anyone ever crawling around inside a septic tank to clean it out. When it is necessary, "clean out" or "cleaning" a residential septic tank refers to "pumping out" of the solids and sludge that accumulate over time (depending upon size) usually necessary only every four to five years or so by a pumper truck. Rid X and many other such bacteria, microbes, acids and enzymes can be purchased in most any Wal Mart and I have also seen them in both Mexican HEB and Commercial Mexicana stores. Bacterium, microbes, acids and enzymes are used on a variable basis to replenish normal growth bacteria for consuming the solids in the tank that do not completely breakdown and also for opening up leach lines and areas around leach lines that over time can become plugged with semi solids and solids, so the liquid residue can leach out into the ground and not plug up a leach line, or overflow your tank.

T if you are doing property management you really should get a good handle on septic systems. They are a very simple system and easy to maintain. You should have a drawing or map of just where your leach field is located and know where your "cleanout" is located. For goodness sake know where your leach lines are located and do not dig them up. When burying a leach line it is easy to take some yellow or other colored plastic tape and put this tape over the lines but only a few inches below the surface over the lines so when you are digging you will bring up plastic tape first and not the leach lines. Big problems if the lines plug up or break. That is not perfume that you smell in an otherwise clean smelling neighborhood. Sounds like to me that you have a good septic man. Better keep his number handy.

robt65


Johnmichelsr

Mar 15, 2013, 1:13 AM

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OK, I guess I need an education here. I have only (personally) built, installed and maintained (concrete block type, fiberglass and concrete vault type) septic systems and leach lines, for the homes I have lived in for the past 25 years. I cannot for the life of me ever remember anyone ever crawling around inside a septic tank to clean it out. When it is necessary, "clean out" or "cleaning" a residential septic tank refers to "pumping out" of the solids and sludge that accumulate over time (depending upon size) usually necessary only every four to five years or so by a pumper truck. Rid X and many other such bacteria, microbes, acids and enzymes can be purchased in most any Wal Mart and I have also seen them in both Mexican HEB and Commercial Mexicana stores. Bacterium, microbes, acids and enzymes are used on a variable basis to replenish normal growth bacteria for consuming the solids in the tank that do not completely breakdown and also for opening up leach lines and areas around leach lines that over time can become plugged with semi solids and solids, so the liquid residue can leach out into the ground and not plug up a leach line, or overflow your tank.

T if you are doing property management you really should get a good handle on septic systems. They are a very simple system and easy to maintain. You should have a drawing or map of just where your leach field is located and know where your "cleanout" is located. For goodness sake know where your leach lines are located and do not dig them up. When burying a leach line it is easy to take some yellow or other colored plastic tape and put this tape over the lines but only a few inches below the surface over the lines so when you are digging you will bring up plastic tape first and not the leach lines. Big problems if the lines plug up or break. That is not perfume that you smell in an otherwise clean smelling neighborhood. Sounds like to me that you have a good septic man. Better keep his number handy.

robt65


You have mentioned detailed way of cleaning but I think it will consume much time. It is better to spend some money and hire good professional cleaner..
 
 
 
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