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rrmendez

Feb 1, 2009, 6:06 PM

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I would like to add a comment to all the great safety advice that has been written on MXC. We had a recent experience in San Miguel Allende
that has changed the way we will travel in the future. Our advice to make sure that you can secure your hotel room door, preferably with
a dead bolt or slider type lock.
We have traveled Mexico for over ten years without any negative incidents, and what happened to us could happen in any town, anywhere.
That being said, hotels doors in economical hotels usually leave something to be desired in security. We had been in SMA several days, and
were comfortable with the town and our accommodations. We were in our room for the night, sitting up in bed and watching the tv, when
our doorknob was rattled, we thought another guest had the wrong room so were not too concerned. Several minutes later, our door was
opened by key from the outside and two men entered our room. My husband instinctively reacted by confronting them and trying to push
them out the doorway, resulting in a struggle, I started screaming and yelling for help when I saw blood, one waved a knife and was trying
to warn me to keep quiet. Shortly after that they picked something up and left. What I thought was perhaps my husband's wallet being
picked up was another knife.
We waited a few minutes to make sure they were gone, went to the lobby/desk and found it deserted. We left and walked one block to a
main street where we found the police to report the incident and call for an ambulance. My husband required stitches in six different
locations, but thankfully all the cuts were superficial. Apparently the attackers switchblade wouldn't open, and we are very fortunate.
The hotel owner came to the ER and sat with me, and was extremely concerned and gracious. The hotel desk was deserted because
the attackers had robbed the staff and forced them into another room at knifepoint and threatened them. The men were caught that
night because another robbery victim had recognized them and reported them to the police. They were from DF, and it seems that
all their other victims were locals.
We then spent five hours the next day in the Ministerio Publico, mostly waiting, to give our statements.
In hindsight, my husband probably should not have physically confronted them, but he did. They never said a word, and did not
rob us of anything except peace of mind. We consider ourselves fortunate, but less trusting than before.
Our hope is that someone else can benefit from this experience.



bournemouth

Feb 1, 2009, 7:13 PM

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Thank you for taking the time to post this. If it makes any one of us more aware, you have done a great service. Thankfully the injuries to your husband were not worse.


nancyinpdx

Feb 2, 2009, 5:54 AM

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Thank God things did not turn out worse for both of you!!! My granny always suggested putting a knife in the door jam which I have never done. I wonder what else can be done to keep intruders out without damaging or altering the doors?


azheat

Feb 2, 2009, 6:29 AM

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How terrifying for both of you. Thank goodness you are both OK.

Did this happen recently? I haven't heard a thing about it on
other lists for SMA, so one always wonders how quiet they are
keeping this kind of event in San Miguel.

Take care,
Tina


Brian

Feb 2, 2009, 6:45 AM

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I wouldn't say that it is so much a question about keeping things quiet. The problem, unfortunately, is that especially for the gringo community, information resources are extremely limited. My impression from living there several years is that most folks do not watch the news coverage on the local cable channel, do not listen to XESQ, neither do they read Correo, El Sol del Bajio or Ecos de San Miguel (if it is still being published). This particular incident while certainly frightening probably doesn't meet the threshold of being truly "newsworthy". Word of mouth and, in some cases, yahoo message groups, continue to be the primary source of info about public safety for expats and visitors to San Miguel de Allende.

Brian


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azheat

Feb 2, 2009, 8:21 AM

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Yep, very true.


thriftqueen

Feb 2, 2009, 9:49 AM

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Wow !! Scary, I am glad you both are OK. I think your husband's reaction was normal under the circumstances, maybe he saved your lives and you didn't have your throats slit. The front desk attendants being robbed and disabled means the robbers could literally print new cards for the new card type security door locks. If they couldn't figure out how to do so they could force the attendant to do it.

At some time in the past I remember seeing a security tool advertised that was a rod type wand with a foot on it similar to an older person's walking aid that has the three legged foot on it, the top portion had a u shape attachment that was wedged under the door knob. It was pitched to women traveling alone. I wonder where one would secure something like that if they are still sold.

Thanks for sharing this with us, it will sure give us something to think about and try to prevent when traveling.


carlw

Feb 2, 2009, 10:29 AM

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Maybe this is it http://www.survivalstore.com/bigjamaddoor.html or this http://store.onestopshopcatalog.net/265dccsen.html


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thriftqueen

Feb 2, 2009, 1:12 PM

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Great, thanks for the info. That is similar to what I remember and it would add a measure of relief to my mind and possible to our safety. I've stayed in US hotels that have questionable locks as well as in Mexico. In Mexico it's when there is a regular key lock and no additional deadbolt lock that I really feel uneasy. Gonna order one pronto.


Carron

Feb 2, 2009, 2:45 PM

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I haven't done much traveling in Mexico lately (can't get the time away from my sheep and goats!) but when my two girls were teenagers we traveled from one end of the country to the other many times. We always stayed in the most budgety of budget hotels and never had any problems. Maybe we were just lucky.

Anyway, we always put some of the hotel furniture against the door and also stacked some soft drink cans and bottles there as well. At least we would get some noise to wake us up in case of attempted intrusion. I also kept my passport and money in plastic Ziplock baggies in my panties at all times, especially when I was sleeping, and we would use our overnight bags (backpacks, duffles, etc.) under our pillows as extra support. Now I might keep a bottle of pepper spray somewhere handy as well, although Mexican thiefs might be immune to the effectiveness of chile powder!


Brian

Feb 5, 2009, 9:59 AM

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The following day after this incident, two more armed robberies occurred in San Miguel one of which was also in a hotel. I have posted a link to the story on the El Bajio forum.


mexliving

Aug 15, 2009, 5:42 PM

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i am glad to hear your husband was ok .... there are a couple of items one can bring along when traveling...... an electrical alarm device that you place on the door handle...if someone touches the door handle the alarm will go off and wake you up and warn you.
another is those long sticks that attach to the door and the floor, the problem with those is the floor is usually tile so they slip..... you can get a small piece of rubber to place on the tile and the bar on top.
a white fire stinguisher looking pepper spray might have helped the situation since they where not armed..... in either case..... its better to have some type of alarm device or pepper spray that looks like a fire stinguisher....
i am a hard sleeper and usually place some type of furniture against the door.
you can also have a dog leash ...place the handle inside the room and the other half outside the room ... this might cause anyone to think twice about trying to force your door open thinking you have a big dog.

with the current economic problems, crime will increase everywhere.... be safe and be prepared.
 
 
 
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