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heathesq

Apr 14, 2010, 10:24 AM

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Apparently there is a new highway which bypasses Mexico DF when going from Guad to Oaxaca.

Has anyone heard of it or taken it?

Roger



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Apr 14, 2010, 10:32 AM

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Search here for Arco Norte.


dmhaun


Apr 14, 2010, 10:54 AM

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The new cuota around Mexico City is the Arco Norte and not a Guadalajara connection. It starts at the Laredo/Mex. City cuota. and goes east, around D.F., towards Puebla.
Going south on Hiway 57 to Mexico City, Arco Norte highway is 75km or 50 miles past San Juan del Rio, at marker 90km. Look for the "Puebla Cuota" exit.
Going north from Puebla, the Arco Norte exit is at Texmelucan, about halfway between Mexico City and Puebla.
As of February, 2010, there were no gas stations, nor services.
Arco Norte website: www.arconorte.com.mx
Buen viaje, David
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Hound Dog

Apr 14, 2010, 3:09 PM

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Apparently there is a new highway which bypasses Mexico DF when going from Guad to Oaxaca.

While David´s posting is correct that the Arco Norte does not go to Guadalajara, it is the new highway one wants to take to go from Guadalajara to Puebla and points south and east including Oaxaca if one desires to bypass Mexico City. It´s not that Arco Norte will get you to Puebla and points south and east any faster from Metro Guadalajara in its present configuration than if one were to drive directly through the heart of Mexico City but the Arco Norte is less of a hassle than driving through the city. Now, when the Arco Norte extension is finished to Atlacomulco, Edomex as planned, the timing and distance will change but for now,here is the way I would drive to Puebla from the Guadalajara metro area and environs if starting in Chapala:

Chapala to Ocotlan on Highway 35 and then to the Guadalajara-DF Cuota, Highway 15 to La Piedad and then up the new La Piedad-Irapuato Cuota to Cuota 45 and Queretaro and San Juan Del Rio to Cuota 57 and the new Puebla Cuota as described by David. Eventually, if not already, you can drive the Guadalajara - DF Cuota (Highway 15) all the way to Atlacomulco before picking up the Arco Norte. Whether that route through Michoacan to Atlacomulco will be shorter or quicker than the Queretaro route remains to be seen.

Since 2006, when we purchased a home in San Cristóbal De Las Casas, Chiapas, we have driven between Chapala and San Cristóbal numerous times, always through the heart of Mexico City - the only feasible route in the past unless one had a lot of time to spare - and I can assure the reader the Arco Norte, which is a splendid highway, saves no time unless one experiences serious traffic problems in Mexico City.

Alternatively to Arco Norte from Lake Chapala or Guadalajara, drive the Guadalajara-DF Cuota to the relatively new Toluca Libramiento which bypasses that city and enter DF at suburban Santa Fe proceeding through the heart of the city to Ixtapaluca primarily on expressways until reaching the Mexico City-Puebla Cuota. This route will take no longer than the Arco Norte and will take you through some splendid countryside both east and west of the Valley of Mexico. The problem with going through Mexico City as with any huge city such as that, is that things can go awry and Mexico City cops have a certain deserved reputation for harassing out-of-state travelers. I will say that driving through Mexico City wakes one up.


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dmhaun


Apr 15, 2010, 12:33 PM

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Hola Hound Dog, Thanks for pointing-out the route to Arco Norte, from Guadalajara or Morelia. Just got the 2010 Guia Roji and you are correct, there is an autopista from the Guada/DF cuota at Altacomulco, which connects to the Arco Norte, at the Queretaro/DF cuota. And, yes, it would be less of a hassle than driving through DF. Gracias y Buen viaje, David
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Hound Dog

Apr 16, 2010, 6:48 AM

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Hola Hound Dog, Thanks for pointing-out the route to Arco Norte, from Guadalajara or Morelia. Just got the 2010 Guia Roji and you are correct, there is an autopista from the Guada/DF cuota at Altacomulco, which connects to the Arco Norte, at the Queretaro/DF cuota. And, yes, it would be less of a hassle than driving through DF. Gracias y Buen viaje, David

Dave, thanks for that information. Does anyone know if that last leg of the Arco Norte to Atlacomulco is finished and open?


Hound Dog

Apr 17, 2010, 10:16 AM

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Going north from Puebla, the Arco Norte exit is at Texmelucan, about halfway between Mexico City and Puebla.

Thanks for that information, Dave. We have not yet taken the Arco Norte route from Chiapas to Lake Chapala so it is helpful to know where the Arco Norte enters the Puebla-Mexico Cuota. Coincidentally, we are traveling with three dogs and are planning to stay at a place known as Hacienda Chautla which we understand is a bit rustic but takes dogs and is located near Texmelucan. It happens that Texmeluca is about half way between San Cristóbal de Las Casas and Chapala so that is quite convenient for us.

I think that even though the new roadmaps for 2010 show the Arco Norte completed to Atlacomulco that that leg is still not finished so presumably we will want to exit on the Mexico-Queretaro Cuota (Highway 57) and head back to the lake via Queretaro which is not a bad alternative since they opened the new Irapuato-La Piedad autopista that is a breeze to drive.

When we get back to Lake Chapala, we´ll update the rest of you on this new route.


dmhaun


Apr 17, 2010, 12:02 PM

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Yes, you are correct: the Arco Norte cuota is not completed around to Atlacomulco, at least according to their website. The 2010 Guia Roji shows an"autopista" (not a "carretera secundaria" nor "autopista dividida") from Arco Norte to Atlaco. and the Guade. cuota. Since Guia Roji usually doesn't show roads until they are "officially" opened, I would presume that road is completed. Of course, we won't know for sure until we take that route. Buen viaje, David
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Vichil

Apr 23, 2010, 8:52 PM

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Arco del Norte is opened to Tula but not Atlacomulco yet.

The signs are up so we followed them today to find out the road closed. We had to go back to the cuota Querataro Mexico for 5 kilometers to Jilotepec , I think.
Luck would have it there was road work and sat on the autopista for 30 minutes then took the 42 minutes road trip to Atlacomulco it was Friday and the villages were very busy getting ready for the week end, there was a village fiesta and another closed road to Atlacomulco so one hour 30 minutes later we fianlly arrived to Atlacomulco.
It will be great when the road is finished but not now...


(This post was edited by Vichil on Apr 24, 2010, 1:01 PM)
 
 
 
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