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chinagringo


Jun 28, 2010, 8:40 AM

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Many of us remember back to last August when all of the Mexican Customs Agents were replaced to eliminate corruption. According to the following, the situation may be even worse:

"Corruption in Mexican Customs
Mexican Customs personnel in the area of Ciudad Juarez reported pressures by organized crime so that the latter may be allowed to continue the contraband introduction of firearms and other merchandise into the interior of Mexico. Last August, Mexico’s customs function was taken over by a new agency, “OCE” (Operadores de Comercio Exterior: Foreign Commerce Operators,) after the prior agency was found to be heavily involved with organized crime. However, corruption has now continued with the “OCE” personnel due to bribes and threats, and two of its members have been murdered within the last month. A standard “quota” per vehicle allowed entry without inspection is $200 dollars, which lets in weapons, cash, ammo, or whatever. At the highway checkpoint at Kilometer 72, the OCE’s get $500 to $1,000 dollars a day from “mordidas” and deals they’ve reached with the smugglers. They pay for parties and blowouts with no attempt at disguise. One OCE said, “We’re worse than ever.”
http://www.diario.com.mx/...79cf150eff7ec54e53b8
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



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norteño

Jun 28, 2010, 11:30 AM

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Some of us oldtimers will remember when the now-defunct Policía Fiscal itself replaced the old Resguardo Aduanal Fronterizo, I believe back in the presidency of Ernesto Zedillo. They were supposed to be young, educated and idealistic officers who were above the traditional system of bribery that had always characterized the customs service. I suspect they failed because there was no accompanying cleanup in the upper levels of the Treasury Department.


Goyo

Jun 28, 2010, 12:08 PM

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I can't help laughing when I read this. In May when I passed through Sonoyta an aduana agent rifled through my duffle bag. She asked me how much I paid for a toy motorcycle for my ahijado. I told her $13usd. She said "no, not possible". Then I showed her the price sticker from Ross (discount) store... $12.99. She was miffed. At the same time she missed a boat load of other toys for other kids and a brand new shrink-wrapped boogie board in my hand.

In Tijuana the new agents are so busy playing with their cell phones and talking with their companeros they miss me every time. There are no Army checkpoints going south on Mex 2 or 15 anytime I travel them.

I don't think the federal government is truly serious about interdicting guns, ammunition or dollars.


Hound Dog

Jun 29, 2010, 7:47 AM

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Some of us oldtimers will remember when the now-defunct Policía Fiscal itself replaced the old Resguardo Aduanal Fronterizo, I believe back in the presidency of Ernesto Zedillo. They were supposed to be young, educated and idealistic officers who were above the traditional system of bribery that had always characterized the customs service.

If anyone tells you that any official agency of the Mexican government, whether local , state or national, is above corruption, including the much vaunted federal cops you see periodically on the highway, do not believe another word they say. They are either naive or corrupt themselves.

Reminds me once again of a road trip we were taking from San Cristóbal de Las Casas to Oaxaca City when we stopped for lunch at a roadside cafe just over the Oaxaca state border from Chiapas at an area with army and federal road blocks and crowded with what appeared to be roadside eateries with names like "Juanita´s Comida" and lined with countless parked big rigs. We ordered some tacos (absolutely delicious, by the way) and beer and the matron running the roadside cafe ran across the highway for some cilantro at another cafe. This called our attention to that other cafe across the highway and we noticed that there was a steady procession of male army and federal police personnel entering that cafe for brief visits and then leaving only to be replaced by more grunts and cops and this scenario repeated itself over and over as we enjoyed our lunch. Maybe it was our imagination, but it sure seemed to us that those guys entering the cafe were doing so in a sour mood but leaving shortly thereafter with a spring in their steps.

I am reminded that things in Mexico are often not as they seem at first glance.


Manuel Dexterity

Jun 29, 2010, 8:12 AM

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As Piporro was fond of saying: "con el dinero, baila el perro"


Moisheh

Jun 30, 2010, 4:03 AM

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The corruption at the border will never stop. One of our Mexican friends insists tat it starts at the top. The supervisors expect the aduaneros to extarct more mordida s they get a "cut" of the proceeds. Every year at Xmas time the reigning President visits some of the popular border crossings. He proclaims that this year there will be no corruption and advertises a new program that will stop the mordida. Alas nothing changes. Mexicans hide their jewelry at Xmas time as the aduaneros will ask for a ring or necklace in lieu of cash. If the locals manage to get through the border untouched their is a nw twist. The Hacienda has check points where they pull over vehicles that are loaded to the rafters and squeeze more $$ from the citizens.The Federal police are no better!

Moisheh


Ustlach


Jul 2, 2010, 11:36 AM

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It has been all of six weeks since I last came SoB after a two week visit NoB. I was driving, from Phoenix, via Nogales, on Mexican Hwy 15, as far as Hermosillo.

And this was probably my 30th such trip. I have never, NEVER, even when I get a Red Light at the Aduana, never have I been asked for ID, visa, passport, nothing.

One time I walked across the border into Mexico at San Ysidro/Tijuana. I did not see anyone resembling a Mexican border agent, or custom agent, policeman, nothing.

I read posts here on MexConnect by people getting stopped in Mexico and asked for their visas or their car permits and I have virtually no conception of what they are talking about.

My partner tells me I should not listen to 99% of what I read on MexConnect about Mexico because Sonora is so radically different from the rest of the country, even other northern states, cities, towns, etc. and that trying to compare anything in Sonora with anything elsewhere in Mexico is an exercise in futility.

Well, that is something of an exaggeration, because there are similarities, but I have to admit, they seem few and far between.

There was one new twist however. Right at the border, on the US side, was a check point manned by US immigration agents. A whole bunch of them. My Mexican partner had met me in Tucson the day before, having taken the bus from Hermosillo, and was riding back home with me. We stopped at this check point and the very polite US immigration officer looked at my partner and said" Who is that? I told him my partner's name. "How do you know him." "What are you two doing together?" "Where are you coming from and where are you going?" "How long have you known him?" I was answering each and every question openly, honestly, patiently, but when they began to sort of repeat themselves, the questions, I began to lose patience. When he asked me again, what this Mexican guy was to me? I told the agent he is my domestic partner. I have known him nine years. We live together in Hermosillo. And I added, "...if it is any of your business." I fully expected to get hauled out of the car and pistol-whipped, but the agent remained very cool and polite and explained why it was his business. Just trying to cut down on bad stuff getting into Mexico.

I thought, Good Lord (and I am not religious), if every gringo coming to Mexico would pick up a Mexican in Arizona and bring him back to Mexico, that would help the problem of illegal Mexicans in Arizona. They ought to be stopping me and giving me a reward for repatriating one of those illegal Mexicans.

If they were all that concerned about us transporting weapons or money or whatever, why all the personal questions about my partner and what he is to me? Just search the damn truck and be done with it.


donemry

Jul 3, 2010, 8:38 AM

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The actual questions and most of the answers were not the point of the exercise. The agent wanted to watch you as you answer and how you answer the question. They are looking for indicators in your responses that will then tell them when to "tear" your truck apart.
 
 
 
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