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clausont

Jan 20, 2010, 7:36 AM

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I am new to this forum and I would guess that this has probably been covered many times already but I don't find it, so I will ask here.
We are planning on traveling from Oregon to La Cruz in early March for a one week stay. We have considered everything from flying to the train to the bus to driving. We have finally settled on just driving the whole way down there. It will be a good opportunity for us and our kids to see areas that we have never seen before. We don't believe that there is a significant safety issue as the media would have everyone believe - mainly use common sense as we would here.
What we want to find out is what the best route is to get there?
We are tentatively planning on heading down to San Diego first. I was looking into the possibility of driving to La Paz and taking the ferry (with our van) to Mazatlan and completing the drive to La Cruz from there.
The other thought is to drive to Tucson, AZ and down from there.
Any thoughts, suggestions or advice will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance



tashby

Jan 20, 2010, 11:36 AM

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Hi and welcome to Mexconnect.

If you do a search and replace La Cruz de Huanacaxtle with "driving to Puerto Vallarta" you'll probably find a ton of information, since La Cruz de H is only about 10 miles north of it. But yes, those would be your two options from Oregon: driving through Baja and taking the ferry over to Mazatlan and then onto the PV area. Or the Tucson-->Mazatlan-->PV route.

I've been in both Northern and Southern Baja, and I've driven stretches of it, but not the entire length. I'm afraid I'd get bored driving the entire thing. That's a lot of Baja.

Also, you might check the website VRBO.com for rentals. I know there are a ton in Bucerias, just south of La Cruz, so there are probably some listed for it as well.

Good luck.


sparks


Jan 20, 2010, 12:02 PM

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Baja is interesting if you haven't done it. If the $250+us To Topo or $400+ to Maz for the ferry isn't an issue (car and passengers separate) good first route.

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clausont

Jan 20, 2010, 1:28 PM

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I had been wondering what the cost of the ferry would be for our van and the family. Is there a way I can find an accurate cost for the ferry with all of my family (five kids)?
It seems like it would cut off significant driving time by taking the ferry.


clausont

Jan 20, 2010, 1:30 PM

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I would think that is a lot of Baja. But since we have never been there, perhaps it will be interesting anyway. I would guess that there are places to stop and let the kids stretch their legs and run a bit here and there at least.
I have been on the VRBO site and am still looking. We will find something.
Thanks

T


Rolly


Jan 20, 2010, 1:34 PM

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I'd be interested in a report from someone who has used the ferry recently. The last report I remember was several years ago, and it was not too inviting. Perhaps, it has gotten better?

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tashby

Jan 20, 2010, 2:10 PM

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http://www.bajaferries.com/


clausont

Jan 20, 2010, 2:29 PM

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Thank you, Tashby!
$790USD (currently - one way) as near as I can figure so that one is out. I guess that we will plan on the Tucson rt.

Although. looking on the maps, I see that there is a hiway that goes from San Diego around the east of the Sea of Cortez. Is this a viable option to drive the entire way down there? I don't think I have seen that mentioned anywhere.


sparks


Jan 20, 2010, 3:28 PM

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I don't know about cutting across the top of the Sea of Cortez from San Diego .... but the usual advise is use US roads as long as you can and that means Nogales.

From there it's highway 15 to Tepic. 15D is the quota and 15 is the free road. I would stick to the quota

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wiloran

Jan 20, 2010, 7:42 PM

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My husband and I have driven from Reno to La Cruz and few times. We considered taking I-5 but decided to avoid crowded LA freeways and have always gone Reno to Las Vegas, then Las Vegas to Tucson the following day. If you would like more info about the drive (we've also driven from Eugene, OR, to Reno several times), let me know I'll be glad to help.


RickS

Jan 20, 2010, 7:45 PM

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"...a hiway that goes from San Diego around the east of the Sea of Cortez. Is this a viable option to drive the entire way down there? I don't think I have seen that mentioned anywhere."

You are probably referring to hiway 2 which does parallel the border from Tijuan east before it cuts down south. But it connects with toll road 15D just a 'short' distance below Nogales. You would then ride 15D all the way to Tepic, Nayarit before driving the final 100 miles to La Cruz on hiway 200.

But listen to Sparks and stay in the US on I8 to Tucson, then down to Nogales and pick up 15D there. Use the Mariposa crossing just west of downtown Nogales, Az. That route will actually be faster plus you do not want to be caught dead (pardon the pun!) driving that far along the border inside Mexico.


esperanza

Jan 20, 2010, 8:53 PM

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Are you talking about Highway 2? Part of that road is known as La Rumorosa, which has recently been in the news. I'd avoid it, if humanly possible. I've driven that road and have taken the bus on that road and it's one very scary ride.


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IMHO, the best route east is Interstate 8 out of San Diego.




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clausont

Jan 21, 2010, 7:20 AM

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Is my understanding correct that the toll roads are maintained a bit better and are a bit shorter driving time?


clausont

Jan 21, 2010, 7:27 AM

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Excellent information! Thanks all! So there it is - basically, start from Tucson / Nogales and take 15D to Tepic. Leave the toll rd and head to La Cruz. Is it obvious the way to go once you get to Tepic?
More specific directions?
What is the total driving time from Nogales?
Also, does anybody have suggestions for places to stop for the night (motel)? and places to stop to eat?
Thanks again!


Den and Dode


Jan 21, 2010, 2:56 PM

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When travelling, we drive from about 8-9 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. Going north from La Cruz, we overnight in Mazatlan, Obregon, then arrive in Tucson on the 3rd day.

Dennis and Doreen


(This post was edited by Den and Dode on Jan 21, 2010, 5:17 PM)


wiloran

Jan 21, 2010, 8:37 PM

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Toll roads are well maintained with a lot less truck traffic.


sparks


Jan 22, 2010, 6:34 AM

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15D goes around the west side of Tepic. About halfway past town there's a not well marked exit to 200 and the sign may say Compostela or Las Varas. The Compostela section used to be hell .... but they widened the curves.

About 20k south of Tepic there is an inexpensive toll road to Compostela.

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clausont

Jan 23, 2010, 6:12 AM

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Thanks Sparks! Is the toll rd a bit better than the 200? Hoping that I understand correctly, I see that there appears to be (on Google maps) A more northern rd that takes you close to Santa Cruz and the more southern route that goes to Compostela.
Is either one of these better than the other?


donemry

Jan 23, 2010, 6:58 AM

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The scenery is better through Compestella, hills and valleys. The other route is relatively flat. Depends on your tolerance for driving switchbacks and hills beheind busses and trucks.


clausont

Jan 23, 2010, 7:03 AM

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Thanks Donemry,

Which one is the less winding? I have no problem with switchbacks and traffic, but my wife gets to feeling a bit poorly when there are a lot of switchbacks and winding roads.


donemry

Jan 23, 2010, 7:22 AM

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The Santa Cruz route is the easiest to drive.


jerezano

Jan 25, 2010, 6:38 AM

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Hello all,

I'm a bit confused by the answers our original poster is getting here. By all means take 15D the cuota from Nogales to just before you reach Tepic.

Absolutely the best way to get from the frontier to just before Tepic.

Just before you reach Tepic, exit to the right to San Blas. and then drive the coast down to Santa Cruz to Las Varas? and pick up the coastal highway there to go on to Puerto Vallarta.

This is flat all the way to Las Varas. Your wife will not have to worry about curves etc. I always recommend this route to people with RV's or towing boats. The coastal route from San Blas south to Las Varas is two lane state highway which may or may not be well maintained. Usually it's OK, but not for high speed driving. It passes through or by numerous coastal villages including nearby Playa de las Tortugas. Still it is a short distance. And much easier to navigate than Compostela down to Las Varas.

Now if you must go on to Tepic (my favorite city in Mexico) the periférico on the west--called Libremiento-- bypasses the city almost entirely and on the South end there is a well-marked exit to the right to Puerto Vallarta. Take it. It is not a difficult exit but you will now encounter traffic. You will drive through a short distance of urban traffic but bus and truck traffic are off to the side on frontage roads. Once past Xalisco? Xalapa? (I can't remember the mane of the small urb which is actually an adjunct of Tepic) you will have a two lane well marked and well maintained state highway to Compostela. You do cross a mountain range but still no real mountain driving. Now for the sad part. From Compostela down to the coast at Las Varas there are a lot of curves which are very dangerous if there is a fog (quite frequent). Going down is not so bad because even the truck traffic travels fairly speedily. The problem is stupid drivers coming up who pass those laboring trucks and buses on curves and if foggy without adequate vision ahead. Those curves have been widened and the obscuring jungle overhang has been cut away.

Either way, the flat coast route or downhill from Compostela you end in Las Varas and from there to Puerto Vallarta it is all federal two lane highway in the process of being converted to high speed 4 lane. As you approach Bucerías you may encounter a parallel cuota to Puerto Vallarta, which eventually will be extended northward all the way to to Tepic.

There is another way. Take the cuota from Tepic to Guadalajara. At the Puerto Vallarta exit to the right, turn downhill and take the cuota to Compostela. That cuota is really two lane most of the way and drops way down into a valley and then goes back up to reach Compostela. Itis not difficult driving. From Compostela down to the coast there is only one way. The same way as if you had come from Tepic.

Really the most pleasurable way is San Blas to Santa Cruz to Las Varas but this is all local highway joining fishing and farming villages back to the highways

Either way takes about the same amount of time.

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Enjoy your trip.

jerezano.


(This post was edited by jerezano on Jan 25, 2010, 6:46 AM)


donemry

Jan 25, 2010, 7:21 AM

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Jerzano,

There is no confusion, everyone has described the routes south from Tepic correctly, though not with you elegance.


sanjuan

Jan 30, 2010, 11:31 AM

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I've driven to La Cruz from British Columbia about 10 times and agree that turning off at San Blas to avoid Tepic is much more enjoyable. Driving time from Nogales is about 22 hours.


clausont

Jan 30, 2010, 7:59 PM

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Thank you Jerezano - for your detailed descriptions of the drive and routes to take> I truly appreciate all of the information that I have received here. With your and everybody elses descriptions, I think we should have no problem finding our way there.
I will have to review all of this information again to see what towns that we should stay in on the way.
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