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gmlantz

Feb 10, 2011, 4:39 PM

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fM3 Letter of Good Conduct from WA State Patrol

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Does this mean a full criminal background check or what? I called the WA State Patrol and they were clueless. A full criminal background check takes a couple of weeks and we plan to be in Bucerias on March 1st for furniture delivery. Is a full criminal background check what they mean?

We are planning to drive down with some household goods soon and leave the car (WA registered) at our condo. We don't want to drive it back up. We have several reasons we think we need the FM3 even though we don't plan to stay permanently. Some say we should get the FM3 in Seattle -- others says do it in Bucerias (with help from native speakers). What do you think?



tashby

Feb 10, 2011, 4:55 PM

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Re: [gmlantz] fM3 Letter of Good Conduct from WA State Patrol

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It's completely easy to do the background check in Washington State, as they have everything set up on line.

https://fortress.wa.gov/wsp/watch/


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gmlantz

Feb 10, 2011, 5:03 PM

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hmm -- that almost sounds too easy -- will try it -- thanks!


Rolly


Feb 10, 2011, 5:08 PM

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If you get your FM3 in México, you don't need a police report.

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gmlantz

Feb 10, 2011, 5:14 PM

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If we get the FM3 in Mexico, will there be a problem with bringing our car in with some household good (bedding, lamps, etc)? We definitely do not want to drive the car back to the states as the main point of driving is to get the car down there to use when we are in Mexico.


Rolly


Feb 10, 2011, 6:11 PM

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If we get the FM3 in Mexico, will there be a problem with bringing our car in with some household good (bedding, lamps, etc)?
No. You might have to pay a samll duty on some of the household items.
You'll find answers to all your questions about moving to México including FM3s Here
Car information is here.

Rolly Pirate

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tashby

Feb 10, 2011, 6:21 PM

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You mentioned your "furniture delivery". If that's furniture coming from the U.S., like in a moving truck, then I can understand why you would need to get your FM3 in the US. If it's furniture coming from within Mexico, then you don't. I doubt the kids at the border are going to care about a car with a load of random household goods, and even if they did, I'd just deal with it there. It is possible to pay a duty on a lamp and a bedspread, or whatever.

The police report in Washington State is easy to get, like I said. You run your own internet check, then fax them the results, then the mail you a letter on their stationary. I had mine in under 4 days, if I recall. But that was 3 years ago.


chinagringo


Feb 10, 2011, 6:21 PM

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Here it is the 10th of Feb. and you are thinking of getting a FM3 processed by the Mexican Consulate in Seattle and being in MX by March 1st. I would be real surprised if it could happen within that time frame! We have crossed the border many times on a FMT now FMM with a loaded van and have never paid a dime of duty. YMMV!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Papirex


Feb 10, 2011, 6:59 PM

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The police report of “good conduct” is no longer required. Some of the few Mexican Consulates that are still issuing visas do still require them however. We used to live in Anchorage, Alaska ,there is a consular officer for the Mexican Consulate in Seattle there. Because of a lot of political infighting between the consular officer and some Mexican citizens in Anchorage, we thought it would be quicker and easier to get my FM2 visa in Seattle. We called them and they told us we didn't need to bring anything with us, they would issue my visa in two days after we got there. When we got there, they denied ever having spoken to us.


When they told me I needed a police report from the Washington State Police, I knew that since I had never been a resident of Washington, that I would need to contact The Alaska State Troopers, their headquarters office is in Anchorage where we used to live. The Troopers told me that to do a records search in my absence, I would need to send them an FBI approved set of my fingerprints.


It took about two weeks to get a report that simply said that there were no wants or warrants out for me. When I took that letter to the Mexican Consulate in Seattle, they told me it would take at least another month to issue my visa. I said to hell with it. We had planned to stay with my wife's brother in Seattle for only a week. We had already been there for a month, I wasn't going to disrupt his life for another month or more. I told my wife that I would enter Mexico on a tourist permit, and get my FM 3 in Mexico.


We stopped to visit an uncle in Phoenix. He was born in Mexico and is a naturalized American Citizen. I went to The Mexican Consulate in Phoenix, and told the caballero in charge of issuing visas about our experience at the Seattle Consulate.


I didn't expect that they would accommodate me, but I told him I was not an Arizona resident, but could I use my wife's uncles address to have a FM 3 visa issued to me? The man waved his hand in the air and said “That’s not important.” He sent me to a place to have photos taken, I returned and gave them to him that day. My visa was ready the next morning.


Based on my own experience, I will never advise anyone to waste their time by going to any Mexican Consulate. The Consuls are all political appointees, and most of them have no idea of what their duties are, their main interest is to draw a salary for being there. The Consulate in Phoenix that I ended up using was an exception.


If you plan to bring a foreign plated car here, you will definitely need a visa to get the required temporary car import permit. Only approved persons besides yourselves may drive the car., regardless of any permissions you, or your insurance company may have given. If you leave the car here in your absence, it is a good idea to lock the car in a secure place, do not leave any keys for it here, and it is also a good idea to disable the car so it may not be started in your absence.


The risk of it happening is small, but if an unauthorized person is caught driving your car, the car is subject to seizure, you cannot get it back.


Good luck, Rex

"The supreme happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved" - Victor Hugo

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mazbook1


Feb 10, 2011, 7:53 PM

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The moral to this story is that, especially under the new rules, you should enter México on an 180 day FMM, which, along with the temporary importation permit for your car, you get at the 25 km (more or less) checkpoint when you enter México, then once you are settled in México, go to your nearest INAMI (Migración - immigration office) and get the new FM3 card there. It is much simpler and much less aggravating. There is no need to get a new temporary importation permit for your car, as it is valid (regardless of expiration date) as long as you have a valid visa of any type, FMM, FM2 rentista or FM3.


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turnabout

Feb 11, 2011, 5:59 AM

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 "with the help of native speakers" Nice touch, you should do well in Mexico.


gmlantz

Feb 11, 2011, 9:04 AM

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Thank you all! We're going to apply for the FM3 in Mexico where we know we can get personal assistance. I'll post back here after we return from Mexico to let folks know how everything went. As for the furniture, we purchased it online. It was shipped to San Diego and is then going through a customs broker to be delivered to Bucerias. We are not driving a moving van down -- just an older baby suv. Thank you again!


Mexberry

Feb 11, 2011, 5:49 PM

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Last fall my wife and I obtained a RCMP criminal report as requested my the Mexican consulate in Vancouver BC. When we went to the consulate to hand in all the paperwork, we were told that the RCMP report was not needed.
We were issued a very official looking what is called a " Mexican Visa" that is inserted into our passports. It has a 6 month lifespan. We thought that we had 6 months to apply for our FM3's as that is the validity of the visa.
How wrong we were! We had a month from the date we entered the country, when we were issued a standard FMM as any tourist would get.
Net result was a fine as we did not applied within the month. This after another 3 hour wait , then having to go to the bank, pay the fine , get 3 copies of the receipt and go back to INM the following day and another 3 hr wait .
The Visa is of little value and has a misleading name, so if you are issued one don't rely on the dates.
Mexberry.


gmlantz

Feb 12, 2011, 9:32 AM

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That's basically why we've decided to apply in Mexico -- it sounds like that will be the least frustrating because at least once it is done, it's really done. Thanks for sharing your experience!
 
 
 
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