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johanson


Mar 8, 2003, 7:41 AM

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Yep a dog bit me. The incidence of rabies, I'm told, is much lower here than in WA or BC. And thank God these days a rabies shot is no big deal



Howard Botz

Mar 8, 2003, 8:50 AM

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Rabies in Washington! What? Where? As far as I know bats are the only source of rabies in the U.S.

Howard in Seattle


Rolly


Mar 8, 2003, 9:13 AM

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Rabies is said to be widespread in Mexico to the point that dogs are given shots annually instead of the two or three year intervals common in the USA. About three years ago there was a wave of rabies reported in New Mexico and Texas. There have been some recent cases of rabid skunks in Texas, and a few reports of rabid squirrels. My relatives in Texas are giving their dogs annual shots.

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johanson


Mar 8, 2003, 9:51 AM

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About rabies I know nothing, I was just quoting a volunteer at the animal shelter from Vancouver Island. All I know is that there wasn't much rabies along the Montlake Cut

Your profile says you are moving to Ajijic in the summer of 2003. There will be many from the hot South who will disagree with me on this, but make sure you don't come down until summer. The hottest period and therefore most miserable period for a Husky (UW) is late April through about mid June.

Once the rainy season starts in mid June this place cools down and becomes beautiful. Of course that's when I head to WA hoping to be there on the 3 days the sun comes out each year.


Howard Botz

Mar 8, 2003, 10:01 AM

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Unfortunately I will be down May 1st to find a rental house. I know this is the hottest time but I figure it will be a good learning experience. I will probably be moving later in July but this is speculation at this time. By the way, Rajah (my cat) is vacinated for Rabies.

Howard in Seattle


jennifer rose

Mar 8, 2003, 10:14 AM

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Rabies Vaccinations

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I believe the issue in one-year v. three-year vaccines concerns whether killed or live vaccine is used. Don't ask me which is which, but I believe the availability of the vaccine in Mexico which is certified for only one year is the operative concept.

FWIW, Morelia's Centro de Control Canino, a function of the Ayuamiento, offers free rabies shots (for dogs) Monday through Friday from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. at Av. Madero Pte. Obviously, that's a long way to travel for many readers, but there may be similar services in your area. Personally, I'd rather have the vet come to my house than take the Wild Boy anywhere. Where I live, the veterinary school also makes door-to-door stops about once a year, offering free rabies vaccinations....always a few days after the vet has visited.


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jennifer rose

Mar 8, 2003, 10:20 AM

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Your profile says you are moving to Ajijic in the summer of 2003. There will be many from the hot South who will disagree with me on this, but make sure you don't come down until summer. The hottest period and therefore most miserable period for a Husky (UW) is late April through about mid June.

Once the rainy season starts in mid June this place cools down and becomes beautiful. Of course that's when I head to WA hoping to be there on the 3 days the sun comes out each year.


Aw, break him in the hard way! Where's your sense of tough love, Johanson? Might as well make the newcomer appreciate summer when it does arrive....and then spring won't be as much a shock to him next year. <g>


johanson


Mar 8, 2003, 10:25 AM

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Yes Jennifer, but we're from Seattle where it rains 250 days per year and when the temperature reaches 75 we think it's hot. At 85 we panic and don't come out of the house.


Rolly


Mar 8, 2003, 11:09 AM

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Rain 250 times a year?? I've been to Seattle many times and only been rained on once. And was hardly more than a mist. I must have an anti-rain cloud over me.

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Don


Mar 8, 2003, 11:30 AM

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Of course that's when I head to WA hoping to be there on the 3 days the sun comes out each year.



I remember some years up there, when the sun was out for a full week. That's why I usually go back at around the same time you do to capture those memories.


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johanson


Mar 8, 2003, 1:00 PM

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It is true that what we call rain may not be known as rain in other parts of the world. What is the rain average in Seattle 35 to 37 inches? Yet I am saying it rains most every day during fall winter and spring.

To many of you perhaps I should write, it was cloudy and gray (grey?) all day and there was a little mist in the morning. But when I am trying to make a point, I have been known to exaggerate.

Truthfully, several years back, everyone was lamenting the fact that there had been 90 cloudy/rainy days in a row. Usually we would have an occasional sunny day during the winter.

But traffic is terrible in the greater Seattle area, so we have been known to exaggerate just a little about the weather, to keep the population levels down


ET

Mar 8, 2003, 1:18 PM

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Rabies in Washington! What? Where? As far as I know bats are the only source of rabies in the U.S.


Unfortunately, this is completely false. In 2001 (the 2002 data is still being compiled and validated), there were 7,437 verified cases of rabies in the US reported through formal public health channels. 93% of these reported cases were found in wild animals. Within the wild animal group, bats rank a distant third, accounting for 17.2% of the cases, with raccoons being number 1 with 37.2% of the wild animal cases, and skunks being number 2 with 30.7%.

Bats are quite possibly the subject of the greatest under-reporting error, due to the large population and the limited number of necropsies and testing performed on dead bats. At the same time, from the public health standpoint, it can be strongly argued that there's far less human/bat contact which could result in rabies exposures, than with human/raccoon or human/skunk. In somewhat odd contrast this concept, in 2002, there were three diagnosed and reported cases of rabies in humans (noting of course that in most cases of suspected exposure prophylactic therapy is undertaken and rabies never develops); in all three of the cases the inferred vectors were bats because of the absence of any known exposure incident or bite mark.

It's worthwhile to note that amongst reported cases of rabies in domestic animals, with 249 cases in 2001, cats outnumbered the number 2 domestic animal, dogs (114 cases) and number 3 cattle (83 cases) combined. Another reason to distrust those small bundles of evil.....


ET

Mar 8, 2003, 1:21 PM

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I believe the issue in one-year v. three-year vaccines concerns whether killed or live vaccine is used. Don't ask me which is which, but I believe the availability of the vaccine in Mexico which is certified for only one year is the operative concept.


Would you have the names of the common manufacturers and/or vaccine product names used in Mexico?


Uncle Donnie

Mar 8, 2003, 2:10 PM

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Back in the mid 60's I was aboard the carrier Constellation in the yards at Bremerton for about 9 months. When we headed back to San Diego I thought I had developed a great tan but found out it was only rust. Lots of rain, lots of mist.

Now that my dark hair has fallen out and left only the silver, I'm thankful for the good color gained from a few hours at the San Juan balneario. I'm heading back there on Monday so I'll look healthier when I go through my final chemo series next week. It seems to aggravate the doctors that they're unable to slay me.

Maybe they'll try rabies next!

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johanson


Mar 8, 2003, 2:33 PM

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Good luck Uncle Donnie. It was a pleasure putting a face that I knew to the name "Uncle Donnie" when we crossed paths at the LCS a few days ago. Hurry back with a full head of hair.

I wish more people included a picture on the posts so that I knew who I was writing to.

hey the topic is Rabies shown below is what the CDC writes about the subject

Immunization

Postexposure antirabies vaccination should always include administration of both passive antibody and vaccine, with the exception of persons who have previously received complete vaccination regimens (preexposure or postexposure) with a cell culture vaccine or persons who have been vaccinated with other types of vaccines and have had documented rabies antibody titers. These persons should receive only vaccine (see Postexposure Therapy for Previously Vaccinated Persons). The combination of RIG and vaccine is recommended for both bite and nonbite exposures (see Rationale for Treatment), regardless of the interval between exposure and initiation of treatment.

Rabies Immune Globulin Use. RIG is administered only once (i.e., at the beginning of antirabies prophylaxis) to previously unvaccinated persons to provide immediate antibodies until the patient responds to HDCV, RVA, or PCEC by actively producing antibodies. If RIG was not administered when vaccination was begun, it can be administered through the seventh day after the administration of the first dose of vaccine (78). Beyond the seventh day, RIG is not indicated since an antibody response to cell culture vaccine is presumed to have occurred. Because RIG can partially suppress active production of antibody, no more than the recommended dose should be administered (79). The recommended dose of human RIG is 20 IU/kg body weight. This formula is applicable to all age groups, including children. If anatomically feasible, the full dose of RIG should be thoroughly infiltrated in the area around and into the wounds. Any remaining volume should be injected intramuscularly at a site distant from vaccine administration. This change in the recommendations for RIG administration is based on reports of rare failures of postexposure prophylaxis when smaller amounts of RIG were infiltrated at the exposure sites (80). RIG should never be administered in the same syringe or in the same anatomical site as vaccine.

Vaccine Use. Three rabies vaccines are currently available in the United States (Table_1); any one of the three can be administered in conjunction with RIG at the beginning of postexposure therapy. A regimen of five 1-mL doses of HDCV, RVA, or PCEC should be administered intramuscularly. The first dose of the five-dose course should be administered as soon as possible after exposure. Additional doses should be administered on days 3, 7, 14, and 28 after the first vaccination. For adults, the vaccination should always be administered IM in the deltoid area. For children, the anterolateral aspect of the thigh is also acceptable. The gluteal area should never be used for HDCV, RVA, or PCEC injections because administration of HDCV in this area results in lower neutralizing antibody titers (81).

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pacifico

Mar 8, 2003, 9:17 PM

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Jennifer Rose writes:
I believe the issue in one-year v. three-year vaccines concerns whether killed or live vaccine is used. Don't ask me which is which, but I believe the availability of the vaccine in Mexico which is certified for only one year is the operative concept.


Would you have the names of the common manufacturers and/or vaccine product names used in Mexico?

to the three year requirement and I believe Texas has just changed this year to three years. Many vets still push the yearly vaccination but I think it is more of a money grab and is not backed up by any scientific research.
 
 
 
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