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tonynico

Oct 30, 2010, 4:15 PM

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I was wondering what you guys are paying for prescription drugs? On Cozumel it is not much cheaper and maybe more expensive then the U.S Cholesterol drugs are way expensive.
Any input.

Tony



chinagringo


Oct 30, 2010, 4:25 PM

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Re: [tonynico] Prescription drugs

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Tony:

I believe that you should probably define exactly what drugs you are talking about. As with most things, some are cheaper and some are more expensive and they is no one size fits all rule.
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Neil
Albuquerque, NM



tonynico

Oct 30, 2010, 4:53 PM

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Boniva
Lipitor
Vytorin
and I guess I could go on but those are the main ones


mazbook1


Oct 30, 2010, 6:29 PM

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I don't know about the two others, but Lipitor can be directly replaced with generic Zocor that is available from Farmacias Similares (Dr. Simi) over-the-counter for much less than the U.S. price of either Lipitor or Zocor and definitely less the the Mexican price for the brand name stuff. I changed over to the generic a couple of years ago and after having the blood tests every two weeks for a couple of months, even my doctor (who hates Dr. Simi) agreed that I was getting the same level of protection and approved of the change.


Hound Dog

Oct 30, 2010, 7:30 PM

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don't know about the two others, but Lipitor can be directly replaced with generic Zocor that is available from Farmacias Similares (Dr. Simi) over-the-counter for much less than the U.S. price of either


"Similar" drugs do not in any way inply a generic equivalent of a branded drug. You are being naive.
Please be careful about this.


skier14

Oct 30, 2010, 8:08 PM

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Check out Walmart's pharmacy. MediMart brands are about $5.00 U.S. for a 30 day supply of my lisinopril for BP.


Judy in Ags


Oct 30, 2010, 8:28 PM

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Re: [tonynico] Prescription drugs

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I don't see any mention in this thread about the new requirement as of August 25th that requires a prescription for non-OTC medications. Has that been enforced in your area? It went into effect full swing on the exact effective date here in Aguascalientes.


esperanza

Oct 30, 2010, 10:28 PM

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The new law requires a prescription only for antibiotics. Everything else that has been OTC is still OTC.




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Judy in Ags


Oct 31, 2010, 4:31 PM

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My mistake. My question still stands.


esperanza

Oct 31, 2010, 4:52 PM

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The law requiring a prescription for antibiotics is being enforced in Morelia at the two pharmacies where I shop. Other than that, I don't know.




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mazbook1


Nov 1, 2010, 7:32 PM

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Hound Dog, Don't fall into the false cognate trap. Farmacias Similares generic drugs are approved generics just like the ones sold in the regular farmacias. Similares, regardless of what many folks think (and many Mexican doctors tell you), DOESN'T mean similar in English. All you have to do is check the ingredients list and you'll discover this to be true. I have never once had a Farmacias Similares' employee try to foist off a "similar" drug on me, but I always check the ingredients on a new one against the generic name of the one purchased at a regular farmacia before buying. So far (several years now) so good. Farmacias Similares seems to be as honest as they are inexpensive. They have always told me right up front that they don't have the generic for some things I have asked about.


esperanza

Nov 1, 2010, 7:53 PM

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Mazbook, I do the same thing you do: I always check the ingredients in any of Dr. Simi's 'similares' against the ingredients in the name-brand drug before I buy anything at Farmacia Similares. The ingredients are always the same. I much prefer to spend 30 pesos for a similar than 360-500 pesos for what are known here in Mexico as 'patent medicines'. Unlike what you might think of as patent medicines in the States, here that phrase simply means that the medicine is still under patent and no similar is available--yet. For example, I take two meds that are under patent; those patents run out in 2012. At that time, generics and similares will be available and my pocketbook will be happier.




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Reefhound


Nov 1, 2010, 8:13 PM

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I've always noticed that Similares had cheaper prices. What is the background. Are they are a farmacia that is based on generics? Do they sell name brands as well? Do other farmacias sell generics? Is there really a guy named Dr. Simi or is that an advertising persona?


Hound Dog

Nov 1, 2010, 8:19 PM

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Similares, regardless of what many folks think (and many Mexican doctors tell you), DOESN'T mean similar in English. All you have to do is check the ingredients list and you'll discover this to be true.

Am interesting position, mazbook. My English/Spanish dictionaries clearly define "similar" in Spanish as "something that is similar TO something" and "generic" as "unbranded" or "no de marca". I have also been specifically warned by my physicians both in Jocotepec and San Cristóbal de Las Casas neither of whom are at all acquainted with each other and one of whom (Chiapas) speaks no English at all; not to use any medicines crucial to my health maintenance that are advertised in local pharmacies in Jalisco or Chiapas as "similares". That having been said, I´m not down of the many pharmacies at either Lake Chapala or the Chiapas Highlands and was not implying criticism of any particular firm. I simply am pointing out to forum particpants that "similar" and "generic" should not be confused. I would be especially cautious in parts of Chiapas where sometimes the truth is, shall we say, stretched and counterfieted products of many kinds are not uncommon. I might add that, just because a medicine is sold as having the same ingredients as a branded ot even generic drug doesn´t imply the same prioduction standards if the products are sold as "similar" to what you otherwise might purchase.

Everyone on life-sustaining medication has to make this decision for themselves. After some ten years living in Mexico, especially since moving to Chiapas, I am more cautious than I used to be in these matters.


esperanza

Nov 1, 2010, 9:04 PM

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Dr. Simi is the advertising persona. The real-life doctor behind Farmacia Similares is Victor González Torres, M.D. You can Google both the pharmacy and Dr. González for more information.




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Hound Dog

Nov 1, 2010, 9:05 PM

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Is there really a guy named Dr. Simi or is that an advertising persona?

Well, Reefhound, the Dr. Simi used as the advertising persona is the obese cartoon character dressed like Colonel Sanders one sees dancing about in costume in front of the "Similares" pharmaries from time-to-time but, thank the lord, there will be a real doctor or, perhaps, real consultant of some kind on duty when the pharmacy is advertising a discount doctor on duty at any particular time. This is a very common sight in San Cristóbal de Las Casas, where a "medical consultation " typically runs $20 Pesos in Chiapas. You can also get dirt cheap dental consultations and dental work from discount labs at dental clinics all over the place if you simply walk in off the street and wait in line for the next dentist or dental technician. We still use a dentist in Chapala for anything other than emergency work although there are also some good dentists in San Cristóbal but they will set you back more money. I guess we are just old fashioned. I have this recurring nightmare that I have walked into a discount dental clinic in Chiapas and there is Dr. Simi with pliars in hand and a giant hypodermic needle squirting some greenish liquid about the office ready for insertion into my jaw. In my nightmare, he only speaks tzotzil and I wake up in a cold sweat.

I am reminded of when I needed emergency gall bladder surgery in San Cristóbal on New Year´s Eve a couple of years ago and was was told I needed to pick a surgeon for the procedure, I asked the physician advising me if the guy he was suggesting was the best in town. Keep in mind this is a major holiday time in San Cristóbal. "Well", he responded, "he may not be the best in town but at the moment he´s the only gastrointestinal surgeon available in San Cristóbal as the rest of them are at the beach."


(This post was edited by Hound Dog on Nov 1, 2010, 9:12 PM)


tonynico

Nov 5, 2010, 8:59 AM

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Similares are they nation wide or local?

Tony


esperanza

Nov 5, 2010, 9:28 AM

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Farmacia Similares is a nation-wide chain of drug stores, in the strictest sense of the word. They sell drugs and vitamins, plus a few other related things: vitamins, condoms, etc. They are not big supermarket type stores like some other pharmacies. Most (if not all) include a doctor's office, if you need a consultation. The consultation costs 20 or 25 pesos.

Here's their website, including a list of the medicines and other things sold at Farmacia Similares:
http://www.farmaciasdesimilares.com.mx/index.htm




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mazbook1


Nov 5, 2010, 1:59 PM

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Also, I might point out that even though some psychotropic drugs (antidepressants, etc.) that do have approved generics available in México, but must always have a prescription, aren't carried by Farmacias Similares. Otherwise, I have found their generics to be an excellent bargain, particularly if you buy on Mondays and Thursdays when (during certain hours) they give an additional 25% discount. Perhaps now that prescriptions are required to buy antibiotics (even generics) Dr. Simi might start selling the generic psychotropics also. Before, Similares didn't sell any generic that wasn't customarily available "over the counter" in México.

In all the years that I have been buying generics from Farmacias Similares, I have had only one instance where their generic didn't have exactly the same results as the same strength (mg.) as the brand name drug. In that case, I had to take a slightly higher dose to get the same results, but it was still much less expensive to buy the generic from Dr. Simi than the brand name drug from a regular farmacia. My doctor said it was probably just something to do with my system (very aged!) rather than anything to do with the drug itself.

Also, since Similares doesn't sell any generics in large quantity packages (catering to the low-income folks), sometimes the regular farmacias can sell you generics like aspirin, Tylenol, etc. in large size bottles for less per pill or capsule than Similares. With those sorts of "drugs", it's wise to check both Similares and any large farmacia for price, before buying.


Rolly


Nov 5, 2010, 2:40 PM

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It seems quite unlikely that they will ever sell psychotropic or heavy pain drugs.
Selling those requires a special, hard to get federal license.
That's why it is often hard to find a place to buy scheduled drugs.

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