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Guapo Gabacho


Jun 26, 2003, 10:13 AM

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The Mexican Costitution says:

Chapter II

Mexicans

Article 30. Mexican nationality is acquired by birth or by naturalization:

A. Mexicans by birth are:


I.Those born in the territory of the Republic, regardless of the nationality of their parents:
II.Those born in a foreign country of Mexican parents; of a Mexican father and a foreign mother; or of a Mexican mother and an unknown father;
III.Those born on Mexican vessels or airships, either war or merchant vessels.


B. Mexicans by naturalization are:
I.Foreigners who obtain letters of naturalization from the Secretariat of Foreign Relations;
II.A foreign woman who marries a Mexican man and has or establishes her domicile within the national territory.


It looks to me, as a spouse of a Mexican, that per Article 30 B II, I need only to move to Mexico and I would automatically become a naturalized Mexican. It doesn't say to obtain papers like Article 30 B I does.

Does anyone have experience in this matter? It has been my experience in Mexico that if you ask four Abgados a question you get five opinions.


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Jun 26, 2003, 12:07 PM

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It looks to me, as a spouse of a Mexican, that per Article 30 B II, I need only to move to Mexico and I would automatically become a naturalized Mexican. It doesn't say to obtain papers like Article 30 B I does.


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II.A foreign woman who marries a Mexican man and has or establishes her domicile within the national territory.



Do you qualify according to the information you provided. Are you a foreign woman who married a Mexican man?


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Guapo Gabacho


Jun 26, 2003, 12:17 PM

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The Constitution of Mexico was written in 1917. It, like the US's, has been interpreted with the gender being equal. Example:

Article I

No person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty five years, and been seven years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state in which he shall be chosen.

Does this mean she can't be a Represetative?

I hope I didn't take the bait of a joke?


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Jun 26, 2003, 12:24 PM

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No joke. We are not talking about pronouns. It is spelled out quite clearly. A foreign woman and a mexican man. It doesn't say a foreign citizen marrying a Mexican citizen.

I am a foreign man married to a Mexican citizen. I need an FM-3, etc. to live here all year.

anna

Jun 26, 2003, 1:31 PM

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Hi

I am a foriegn woman married to a Mexican man. The mexican consulate in Vancouver told me that I should go in on an FMT and apply for an FM3 as the dependent of my mexican spouse. After renewing my FM3 for a few years (can't remember if it was 3 or 5 years) I could then apply for Mexican citizenship.

That is my plan anyway

Anna

Don


Jun 26, 2003, 2:02 PM

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Hi Anna:

I believe your information is basically correct and I think it also holds true for foreign men marrying Mexican women.

I don't believe naturalization is a easy as the other poster hopes. I am sure there is a time period and some other hoops to jump through.

jennifer rose

Jun 26, 2003, 5:54 PM

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The Constitution cannot be read in a vacuum. All the Constitution does is set out the dogma and backbone. There are other laws and regs which add breadth, focus and regulate. The law of nationality refers to a marriage between a foreign man or woman with a Mexican woman or man. There are other requirements which must be met, the least of which is a minimum of two years' residency in the matrimonial home within the Mexican Republic immediately prior to making the application for naturalization.

Your assumption that you can simply move to Mexico and automatically become a naturalization Mexican citizen is incorrect.

Guapo Gabacho


Jun 26, 2003, 6:07 PM

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Hey J.R,

Hope you understand that I was talking about Mexican lawyers and not US Bar members.

I made no assumptions about naturalization. My original post was in the form of a question. Thanks for the reply and I was really expecting it. I know the Constitution is not literal when I read:

Article 31. The obligations of Mexicans are:
  1. To see that their children or wards, under fifteen years of age, attend public or private schools to obtain primary, elementary and military education during the time prescribed by the Law on Public Education in each State.


Sorry, I lived to long in Mexico to believe that popo'.


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