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jennifer rose

Jun 20, 2003, 9:35 PM

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How has your life changed since moving to Mexico?

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There are some changes, which are just plain obvious -- like no longer commuting to the factory, having hours you can call your own, speaking Spanish, and paying in pesos. Those are changes which would affect just about everyone who's made the move and perhaps is no longer working at the old job back in the Old Country. But there are more changes -- manners and styles of socializing, perhaps your worldview, adopting Mexican values -- that may not be as a obvious but which affect us even more.

How has living in Mexico changed you?


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Rolly


Jun 20, 2003, 9:53 PM

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The changes in my life have been positive and appreciated. But there is one thing that has had a big impact.

My language shortcomings are the bane of my existence. It pains me greatly that I can't communicate with my friends and my adopted family at whole lot more than the grunt and point level. In other aspects of my life in Mexico, it limits my participation in many activities. I do OK shopping so long as I don’t have to ask a question. I find most people very helpful and once in a while someone answers me in English. Several high school kids have engaged me in conversations so they could practice English. That has been fun.

Aside from laziness, I point to two reasons for my lack of Spanish. I'm 72 and learning a new vocabulary is pretty tough. More importantly, I have very poor hearing that is not much helped by my $2500 hearing aid. My hearing is declining, and I know it won’t be long before I will end up deaf like my mother did. Anyway, if you can't hear it correctly, you can repeat it correctly. Almost no one can understand my accent, and I can't hear the difference when I am corrected. Damn frustrating! And very discouraging – after a while there isn’t much urge to study.

Nevertheless, I am happy in my life here. I keep occupied and active. I have learned that words are not always necessary to develop friendships and bonds between people. I actually have more friends here than I had in Los Angeles. Retirement and death had taken away so many friends back in the old country. Here, I have been refreshed and renewed by my new friends, almost all of whom are under 40; and a bunch of my very special buddies are 4, 5 and 6. The kids were a little puzzled at first because Tio Rolly couldn’t talk, but now they seem to take it in stride.

Am I glad I came? You bet! Any thoughts of going back? None. I’m here for keeps, which reminds me, I really must go check out the local cemetery. I drove by it one day and was surprised by the amount of large statuary I saw from the road. Might make a good web page…hummm. Off on another Mexican adventure san language.

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juan david


Jun 21, 2003, 2:32 PM

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Re: [jennifer rose] How has your life changed since moving to Mexico?

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There's no doubt that retirement gives you options and the gift of time to do what you like. Mi esposa and I strike up all kinds of conversations with all kinds of people which is interesting 'cause our Spanish is not really too spiffy. I think we're in the process of "adopting" a Mexican family....or they're in the process of adopting us. Our maid and my wife are the same age and they get along so well despite the language barrier. We've met a few family members too and they're all good people. I'm quite sure that I would have shied away from this a bit in my/our old life, so we must be changing. We've got some friends in Ajijic who've lived there for seven or eight years who have talked positively about the mutual benefits of a close relationship of this kind. Anyway, it feels like a natural progression. Any of you long termers care to comment on this?
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Jean

Jun 21, 2003, 2:55 PM

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I'm one of the ones going back...not to where I came from but to a different part of the country.

I came here sight unseen and have absolutely no regrets. I have had a blast. I have met more people in three years and become friends with them than I met in 30 years back in the old country.

The weather has made me tanned and healthier looking as well as helping some health problems.

Seeing the real Mexico, I have a very different perspective than before I came down. It's amazing the impression pictures and movies can give you.

I was given the opportunity to explore a different line of work and I am thoroughly enjoying it.

I've met some of the most wonderful people who are bright, intelligent and funny. I have met dedicated volunteers who sincerely care about this area and their work.

I seen so many new and different things that my perspective has changed a lot.

I've become much more outgoing and not so shy.

I've basically had the time of my life, an excellent adventure and highly recommended it to anyone.
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jennifer rose

Jun 22, 2003, 7:46 PM

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Re: [ian] Familiarity with the Help

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I think we're in the process of "adopting" a Mexican family....or they're in the process of adopting us. Our maid and my wife are the same age and they get along so well despite the language barrier. We've met a few family members too and they're all good people. I'm quite sure that I would have shied away from this a bit in my/our old life, so we must be changing. We've got some friends in Ajijic who've lived there for seven or eight years who have talked positively about the mutual benefits of a close relationship of this kind. reply]




Ian, take it slow. Some “adoptions” work out rather well, and some becoming smothering relationships from which it’s going to be very hard to extricate yourselves.

Now I’m not trying to impute ill motivation, but you are a gringo and possessed of financial circumstances which exceed the lot of your maid and her family. And you have an employer-employee relationship with the maid. That relationship can easily become clouded when there’s too much familiarity flowing in either direction. At least for the first few years, or even the first year or so, I’d recommend keeping the relationship cordial but somewhat distant. As you learn more about the lay of the land, and your relationship and confidence in the maid develops, the opportunity for an expansion will still be there.

Obviously, you’re not Simon Legree, but you don’t need to be Santa Claus either.

There can be tremendous benefits in developing these kinds of relationships, and there can be disasters. Tread cautiously and carefully. It’s far easier to expand into a more generous mode as time goes by than to retreat. And you won’t be setting your help up for disappointed expectations.


esperanza

Jun 23, 2003, 6:40 AM

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I originally lived, worked, (and traveled extensively) in Mexico in the early 1980s. From the first day, I felt like a fish thrown back in the water~alive in a way that I had never been before. I've quit questioning the why of this and simply accept it as a fact of my life. Mexico is the place where my soul relaxes.

After I moved back to the States in 1983 (against my will, but due to life-and-death health reasons), my soul pined to go back to its adopted home. Whenever there was vacation available, I always turned South to Mexico, deep into the interior, and I always cried when it was time to leave. For years, in the dark wakefulness of California 3:00 AM, I turned in my mind the possibilities of working here, the logistics of moving here, the desire to be back among friends in the country that I love. For 16 years, while I carried on a successful life and career in Southern California, I dreamed of the life I love in Mexico.

And then it was possible to come home~home, where I breathe the deep breath of peace, where my soul expands and blossoms, where the day-to-dayness of life feels free in a way that I never felt in the States.

Hooray! My life is back where it belongs.




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gpk

Jun 23, 2003, 8:31 AM

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This is very wise advice. I made this mistake and luckily I moved to another city and escaped.
 
 
 
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