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Mexikaner


Dec 8, 2011, 12:03 PM

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I have been having problems with the transito due to a lost/stolen front California license plate. 50 peso fine. My solution was to make a copy of my rear plate and enclose it in a plastic frame placed on the front bumper. No problems for the last 6 months until today. Leaving the parking lot at Walmart in Tonala, Jalisco I was waved over by an officer(transito). I was accompanied by my step-daughter who was holding her baby on her lap. The officer lectured her about the dangers as I do much of the time. After the lecture the officer asked for my car documents and went to look at the front plate. He then asked for my drivers license and proceeded to tell me that the law prohibited non-original plates and that the penalty for false documents was up to 6 years in prison. He had a hand held device that brought up the law for me to read. He told me that he could not give me a ticket as this was a violation of a law different than traffic, but he would hold me until the regular police arrived and i would be taken downtown. My step-daughter talked to him for awhile and then she called her husband who was working near-by and when he arrived it was determined that the officer would let me go for a mordida. I had 800 pesos in my wallet which he said was too little. He said others have given 5000 pesos. After more discusion he said he would take 3500 pesos. He let me go to the bank in my son-in-law´s car to get the money. Have a nice day was his reply when he left. I am now going to go with the front mexican flag plate and pay the 50 peso fine if ticketed. I do not ever plan to take my 1996 Dodge Neon back to the states for new plates. I will try to legalize the car next year as I did my old pick-up some 6 years ago. Such is Life.


I do realize that this is a sensitive issue from what I've been reading about Skier14's incident and would only like to add a personal experience.

Almost 2 years to the date I found myself lost inside the city of GDL, avenida Lazaro Cardenas to be exact. (don't remember the crossroad)

While trying to return to the main road after entering a dead end I was spotted by the GDL Vialidad (white Chevy Pick ups) which immediately signaled for me to pull over. I, being the responsible citizen that I am, complied and after a couple minutes of talking and the officer realizing that my Temporary Car Permit had expired. The game had commenced.
Next thing I know the officer was telling me that I should wait because the Transito is on the way and that they have no authority at this moment. (more like, I called a buddy that needs the money more then I do)
Well, after 30 minutes of waiting the Transito finally arrives and starts asking me some probing questions such as "Where are you from" "What purpose do you have here" "What kind of educational background do you have" "What do you do" All key questions to see who they are dealing with, which will also determine how much they can get from you.
Being this my only second time being pulled over in GDL, I have to admit I was a little nervous, being 3 hours away from home tends to do that to you.
He gave me the speech that since my permit was a federal affair (aduana) he cannot help me in anyway and even if I wanted to bribe him, I couldn't (according to him). He also mentioned that the tow truck would be there within a little while.
So, after an hour of pleading and no tow truck up until that point I started getting wise to his act. Words such as "Maybe" and "If" started to make their presence.
And then finally a price of $3500 came to light! Negotiations started and we finally came to the conclusion that his boss might be willing to take $2500 in cash. Having only $700 pesos in my pocket I informed him that I would need to get more money via Western Union, he agreed and we went to the local Farmacia GDL, parked my truck around the corner and walked back to the Farmacia GDL where the Transito had parked. Once inside the Farmacia I realized that I could no longer receive money for the simple fact that it was after 9pm. Somewhat discouraged I went to inform the Transito of the situation. I offered a solution, I mentioned that if I hurry up I might be able to get the money via Moneygram instead, being the mordida loving cop that he was, he agreed but, that I would have to leave him something in escrow. Having only my laptop and dog to offer I decided to give him my keys but, not before taking off my ignition key. Thank goodness I always carry a large set of keys otherwise he wouldn't of believed me. In my haste I figured it would be quicker to drive up to the local WalMart (him not knowing that)
After getting to the Walmart it would turn out that in fact it was too late as well. As I walked and talked to my family member about the predicament, It dawned on me that I had the truck and that even if I wanted to get back to the Transito, I couldn't. Then my family member made a good point. "what? are you going to look for him just to tell him that you don't have the money?" Good point! I replied.
Got in the truck drove away (somewhat nervous I might add) towards the periferico. Made it home safely and never saw him again.

I of course do not endorse this kind of behavior but, was left with no choice.

And finally, the point of the whole story is that the police in GDL are a lot more experienced in matters like the one's mentioned above. Can you imagine how many times a day they go through these type of situations? It's their job for goodness sake. I would never trust one of these guys with anything. They know how to size people up and use anything they can to take advantage. They are ruthless. Defend yourself no matter what the cost because if you don't, they will have their way with you. I was fortunate and lucky at the same time but, will always remember this from an experience point of view. After all, we are still in Mexico.

Regards,
Ric

P.S. I now live in the peaceful city of Morelia where $50 peso mordidas are the norm. ($25, if you are good)!


(This post was edited by Mexikaner on Dec 8, 2011, 12:34 PM)



DavidHF

Dec 9, 2011, 3:52 PM

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Re: [Mexikaner] Guadalajara Metropolitan Area Police

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How could your TIP be "expired?" Did you not have a valid FM someting? (FMM,2,3)


Mexikaner


Dec 9, 2011, 4:14 PM

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Sir, since I have dual citizenship I have always entered Mexico with my Mexican side, hence the visa issue.


mazbook1


Dec 9, 2011, 7:27 PM

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Mexikaner, Well H--L! If you are a Mexican Citizen, it's flatly illegal for you to be driving around a car with U.S. plates in the first place. Although transitos or other police can't legally do anything about it, if they call the Hacienda (Aduana) enforcement people, you will have a lot worse situation than just a lost license plate…those folks will confiscate your vehicle ON THE SPOT and PERMANENTLY. At least then, you certainly will no longer have any worry whatsoever about corrupt Guadalajara Metro Area Police, since you will no longer have a foreign plated car in México! Thems the facts!

If you entered México using your Mexican pasaporte, there isn't any way you can get a "visa" that would allow you to bring in a foreign plated car, although there IS a way that an expat Mexican (one who lives in the U.S., for instance) to get a 180 day temporary importation sticker for their personal vehicle, but that temp. vehicle importation permit, just like that of any tourist, definitely expires at the end of the 180 days.


(This post was edited by mazbook1 on Dec 9, 2011, 7:32 PM)
 
 
 
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