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robt65

Nov 10, 2009, 5:47 PM

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Garage Sale Reciepts!?!?!?!?!

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Next week I am bringing in to Mexico about $2500 dollars of personal effects for my one and apparently "allowed" amount of things for my home I am renting in San Juan del Rio. I have now my FM 2 and I am very confused about two things. First the amount of $ dollar value allowed. I know I have read the other threads and no one on those threads seems to agree. Does anyone actually know the currect amount of goods that I will be allowed to bring into Mexico, as I am coming through the Matamoros crossing with my Tahoe and a two axle trailer loaded! I did not know there was even a dollar amount as I thought there was an allowence of anything you could haul but only one load without paying any such customs duty.

Second, I see much about garage sale reciepts . . .what the hell is a garage sale RECEIPT. Sorry but I guess I have been going to different garage sales than you folks have. I have never been able to get a garage sale receipt in my life!!!! What do you all do? Create your own?, and how do you make one up. Can someone give me a sample . . . . . please. Everything I am bringing is used from my home in Kentucky Heck, I don´t even have receipts for most of the things.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Robert



sakfogel


Nov 11, 2009, 8:03 AM

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If you have an FM2, how long have you been in Mexico? There is a time limit on the one time importation.
I have never heard of a dollar amount limit.

Here is the right way to handle your initial shipment of household goods.

If this is your first shipment of household goods and you have your FM2 or 3 then you can bring in the entire contents of your house, legally and without import tax.
However there are rules to follow:
1. You must have a "Maneje de Casa"
this is an inventory of all of the items you are bringing
2.All items must be listed in Spanish and English
3.All serial numbers of items that have them must be listed
4.You must visit the Mexican consulate in your town, they will certify your inventory.
5.You must use a customs broker/trucker to bring your goods in
6. The trucker needs to be licensed on both sides of the border or your goods will have to be re-loaded. This is for the FM2 or 3 shipment.

Subsequent shipments:

When we did this many years ago, the trucker came to our door in California, we hired five men, to load the truck, the driver would not do this. They were Mexican day laborers, we paid them $50 each. When the truck arrived in La Paz, our gardener arranged for five of his buddies to help unload, it cost $500 pesos split 5 ways!

Over the years we have driven UHauls across the border full of the goodies we purchased in California, showed our list of items and the receipts. The Mexican customs worker chose one or two items, calculated a small fee, we paid, pushed the button got the green light EVERY time and were off. We off-loaded the goods at a trucker in Tijuana, and drove the UHaul back, got on a plane and flew to La Paz. The trucker handled the drive down the Baja, all the checkpoints and delivered the goods to our door.

I have never heard of garage sale receipts. If you are buying goods to bring to MX at a garage sale, bring along a receipt book from a stationary store and have the seller fill it out. Tell them why, so they don't think they will be taxed on the sale later.
Although the Mexican custom officials have the right to open every box and search it, they usually do just what I described, take a quick look in your trailer, look at your list, choose a few items and calculate a tax on that.
Be pleasant, be prepared with your receipts and inventory and most likely you will sail through without a problem.

Remember there are rules about that initial duty free shipment, and you must follow them.
If you are in doubt, check with your local Mexican consulate.
You don't want to pay fines, or worse have your goods confiscated.
My mantra for living in Mexico: Do it right the first time, pay a little now, or pay big time later.
Susan Fogel
On the beach in La Paz
Author of Margarita Mind Series of Books about Mexico
Book #1 now available: www.MargaritaMind.com


robt65

Nov 11, 2009, 10:18 AM

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Dear Susan,

Hello and thank you for your reply. I have been here about one year. Married my Mexicana sweetheeart last july. We are expecing our first child in about five months. I have a good Mexican immigration lawyer that has been at the immigration business for about 20 years. That is immigration and not customs. I first brought a trailer load last April with a Mexican friend of mine from the USA. She came back on a returning Mexicana program and this allowed for one load of "her" belongings. Everythiing was brought back here in her name and to her address in Durango.

I am familiar with "Manege de Casa" in both languages. I am wondering if there is an office here in the Mexican State of Tamaulipus that I can get the approval. I have the trailer parked at a secure storage facility in Brownsville nuntil I get the required papers. I have everything your numbers one through four. It is my understanding that if the amount is under $3000 US dollars there is no customs broker required. I know for sure that a mexican lisenced trucker with his truck is NOT required. If I chose to do it I could buy my own private truck and take my good by truck. I know that a private trailer is also OK. A government lock with cable is put on all doors to the trailer and the address to where you are taking the good noted on a government form. When crossing any federal or state inspection stop the form is looked at but nothing in the trailer is disturbed. Both federal and state inspection stations and blocks seem to really respect this federal government cable lock at each door and never fooled around with it.

As far as the men to unload, I also have that arranged at the house in San Juan del Rio. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate the reply.

Robert


Rolly


Nov 11, 2009, 11:04 AM

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Robert, there is a little confusion here.

A menaje can only be issued by a Mexican consulate in the USA, no can do within México.

The cutoff for requiring a customs broker is US$1,000, not $3,000. It was $3,000 for a short while several years ago.

A menaje will almost always require a broker no matter the value.

You should seriously consider skipping the menaje and pay the duty which will probably not be much. Probably less that the cost of the menaje and a broker.

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