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alex .

Sep 14, 2004, 10:41 AM

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Where does that notion come from? Certainly not from MY inlaws.
Alex



jennifer rose

Sep 14, 2004, 11:40 AM

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Re: [alex .] "peacefulness, honesty, family respect, etc"

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The cannibal of Indaparapeo who ate his father? The tamalero who killed the apron-seller and cooked him up into tamales in Morelia? The Antorchistas who trashed the Plaza Morelos during their sojourn there and who interrupted Saturday night's festivities in Patzcuaro? Wife-beaters and incestuous fathers? Los grafiteros who deface buildings?

Contrary to romantic belief, Mexico's just as fraught with human behaviors as anyplace else. We're not exactly all noble savages, y'know.


julietl


Sep 14, 2004, 1:45 PM

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I think it was thought up by the same guy wrote wrote

"Peace, Justice & the American Way"
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tony


Sep 19, 2004, 9:49 PM

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Re: [alex .] "peacefulness, honesty, family respect, etc" If the shoes fit....

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Alex,
After reading your posts over the years about TJ
ghetto life and scheming drug dealing inlaws - I would
have to say that you have married into a less than average family. I hang out only 1.25 hours from DF in a working class town. Drugs are scarce, to say the least. Marihuana is talked about like it is heroin.
My inlaws (early 20's) have never seen coke.
I get called senor in Mexico. Kids introduce themselves to the adults when they walk into a room.
They say goodbye when they leave. Women tell their dirty jokes to other women. Men tell their jokes to other men. Virginity is still a virtue and so is being a gentlemen.
Honesty in Mexico takes a back seat to saving face, being humble and being respectful . Yelling and "Telling it like it is" is crass, disrespectful and pompous.
Having lived in the US and US ghettos, I can tell you that there is a huge cultural difference. Drugs are accepted here, respect isn't generally taught, virginity means nothing, divorce is no big deal and the individual is emphasized over the group. Now I know which I like better, but both have their faults.
I can tell you one thing though, I know many people here in the US who act like your inlaws. In fact there is a family about 50 meters from where I am sitting. When I go to Mexico, there isn't one family in town who fits that description. Had you lived in the same economics level in Mexico as you live now, you could see there is quite a big difference especially in the middle class.
Take your inlaws for what they are, but realize
they don't even remotely resemble your "typical" Mexican family. They don't even resemble your
typical US ghetto family, but they would fit in easier here...
Hasta, Tony

"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are."


Marlene


Sep 20, 2004, 12:11 AM

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Re: [tony] "peacefulness, honesty, family respect, etc" If the shoes fit....

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but realize
they don't even remotely resemble your "typical" Mexican family


Just wondering if you have ever had opportunity to watch any branch from the family tree settling an estate once Abuela passes on.


Rolly


Sep 20, 2004, 3:27 AM

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Tony, your Mexican town sure is different from the one I live in.

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alex .

Sep 20, 2004, 8:07 AM

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Re: [tony] people are people everywhere

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Whenever I visit a foreign land I notice how much the same everything is: there are streets , stores, cars, and people. Other than subtle differences in architecture and currency, everything is the same. "People are people everywhere" is a notion that I still subscribe to and it transcends economic strata. I do not believe that economically advantaged folks behave better than those who are not.
Alex


Georgia


Sep 20, 2004, 8:13 AM

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Ah, yes, and there is the proliferation of "moteles de paso." They must be making money, because they are everywhere and look to be in good condition.

On the other hand, public courtesy is alive and well, and I really do like that.


Don


Sep 20, 2004, 8:23 AM

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Re: [tony] "peacefulness, honesty, family respect, etc" If the shoes fit....

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I really enjoy the town I live in and the people that live here. Our's is a farming community and the people also show me respect. But, like most towns everywhere, it has it's warts. I have visited my wife's family in other towns and have experienced the same in those towns. Consider yourself very fortunate that you have found your paradise.


(This post was edited by Don on Sep 20, 2004, 8:24 AM)


tony


Sep 20, 2004, 4:32 PM

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Re: [alex .] people are people everywhere

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"People are People" is something I suscribe to also. However people all over are generally reflections of their culture/traditions.
For ex when I was growing up there was a "cultural revolution". Drugs and sex were very widely accepted. As a result over 50% of my generation used drugs at one time or
another. What makes people different is their culture. In Mexico you automatically defer respect to certain people. This is shown in the form of language. (esta vs. estas) In
Japan one defers in both language and by bowing (the lower the more deference) We don't have this in US culture, therefore we cannot practice it. It is what makes people
different. I cannot say which is better only that there is a huge difference. To say that people are the same everywhere
ignores their culture, tradition and beliefs. I see that
difference and respect it. Tony

"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are."


alex .

Sep 21, 2004, 8:59 AM

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Re: [tony] for six years or so

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you and I have agreed to disagree. This is just another case.
Peace,
Alex
 
 
 
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