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robt65

Apr 28, 2011, 9:13 AM

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Anyone have a B of A Credit Card Account NOB better take warning. Wow . . . this bank just keeps shooting itself in the foot! Who the hell in their right mind would ever do business with such a bank? Not withstanding all the mortgage flubs including having to pay back millions in fines for false foreclosures and running military families out of their home after paying their mortgages on time. To think some person as CEO is actually getting millions in bonuses to operate a company in this manner. No wonder American businesses are in trouble. I sure am glad I do not have such a Credit Card Account and to be living in Mexico.

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robt65


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Casa

Apr 28, 2011, 10:17 AM

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I sure am glad I do not have such a Credit Card Account and to be living in Mexico.

Although I do agree that 30% interest rate seems excessive it is considered LOW for Mexico. (Do you have a Mexican credit card?) Get the whole story by clicking the link below. The most expensive card found in this study had a CAT of 92%!!

De esta forma, en el mercado, las tarjetas clásicas más económicas son las de Banorte, que tiene un CAT del 18%, Scotiabank con 34.2% y BBVA Bancomer en 34.3% de CAT.

Thus, in the market, of traditional credit cards cards the least expensive are Banorte, which has a CAT 18%, Scotiabank 34.2% and BBVA Bancomer in 34.3% of CAT.
That 34.3% by the way is with good credit, that is NOT a penalty interest rate.

(CAT = Costo anual total or total annual cost very similar to the APR of the card)


robt65

Apr 28, 2011, 11:30 AM

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Casa,

Are you reading my post? Nothing you have said has anything to do with the post I have written. I am speaking about a credit card issued from an American bank. You are speaking about a different animal. A Mexican Bank credit card. Which by the way is exactly why I do not carry a Mexican credit card. Next time try to address the specific subject at hand or keep thy keyboard fingers in thy pocket! This can carry heavy reprucusions for an ex pat with an BANK of AMERICA credit card. That's the heads up I sent. Nothing at all to do with A MEXICAN BANKS CREDIT CARD. I hope you are better with making bus connections.

robt65


Casa

Apr 28, 2011, 12:18 PM

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Rob65
Since this forum is about MEXICO I thought I would make the post a little more relevant to Mexico since nothing in your original post has anything to do with Mexico except the statement I am glad to be living in Mexico. Anyone that has a bank of America card gets a statement and all of that info is list right on the statement. You may as well be giving the weather report for Anchorage Alaska or, listing the interest rates for Chinese credit card or telling those stupid jokes and adding the line I am I am glad to be living in Mexico. So to answer your question yes I read your post and frankly I am surprised your post has not been deleted yet for not having ANYTHING to do with Mexico.


Rolly


Apr 28, 2011, 12:40 PM

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Truce please.

So many expats use BofA that it's activities are of interest to many on this board.
Information about Mexican credit cards may also be of interest.

Remember, starting a thread does not impart ownership.

So...truce please



missing NOT added.

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(This post was edited by Rolly on Apr 28, 2011, 1:15 PM)


Maxmilliano

Apr 28, 2011, 12:42 PM

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I found the comments by Casa regarding Mexican credit cards interesting. Thank you


jrpierce


Apr 28, 2011, 1:08 PM

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I found the posts on both B of A and Mexican bank cards interesting, and relevant to one another. Nice comment: "starting a thread does [not] impart ownership" (I think your intended wording, Rolly).

Jim



Rolly


Apr 28, 2011, 1:13 PM

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Thanks for catching my goof, since corrected. I'm getting too old for this.

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stevebrtx

Apr 28, 2011, 4:23 PM

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Why are you so surprised and shocked? This is courtesy of the new banking laws passed by the previous congress. They put a clamp on some things banks make money on, so banks do what they are created to do - make money, so you'll see many more new and onerous charges in the days ahead thanks to the new laws. Every time government attempts to intervene in private business you and I pay. It's like trying to grab a wet bar of soap, it's going to squirt out one end of your hand or another. As the man said, you don't want penalties, pay your bills responsibly.
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mazbook1


Apr 28, 2011, 5:13 PM

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robt65, The reason so many expats use B of A cards is that using the Banco Santander (and maybe ScotiaBank and Banorte) ATMs is completely free of fees. Of course that's for the B of A debit card, the credit card may not be totally free of fees, but a lot of folks who are already doing business with B of A to get the debit card benefit in México, go ahead and get the credit card too.

Those high penalty interest rates only crank in if you are late with a payment, so expats should make certain they have some method of making at least the minimum monthly payment automatically before the due date.

Actually, as penalty credit card interest rates go, the 30% really isn't much different than many banks have had for years. When I moved to México permanently in 1998, I carried a Chase credit card. Unfortunately, a few months later in the confusion of getting the house ready for occupancy, I overlooked the payment to Chase for a month. The next month's statement reflected a penalty interest rate of somewhere between 26% and 30% (too long ago to remember exactly now). Since no one at Chase seemed to be able to tell me what I could do to get back to the normal interest rate (or even IF it was possible), I cancelled the card.

And esperanza, back then that "penalty" interest rate DID apply to existing balances. That's why I so quickly paid it off and cancelled it. That may have been just a Chase thing, but I seem to remember others telling me the same about other bank credit cards at that time.


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robt65

Apr 28, 2011, 5:42 PM

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OK Rolly,

Your right, apologies.

robt65


robt65

Apr 28, 2011, 5:48 PM

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Hello Mazbook1,

You said: Those high penalty interest rates only crank in if you are late with a payment, so expats should make certain they have some method of making at least the minimum monthly payment automatically before the due date.

That is what I was trying to let folks know. You said it much better than I.

robt65



esperanza

Apr 28, 2011, 5:57 PM

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Robt65, if you read the entire linked document again, you'll see that it mentions other banks' penalty interest rates, in particular HSBC's delinquent interest rate. HSBC's penalty rate is higher than BofA's.

The article also says that BofA may charge that new interest rate and may not, but that customers will be advised prior to the charge being made. And the charge will not be on the existing balance, but on any future purchases.

It seems to me that the solution to this whole "OMG more than 30% interest" situation is to pay the credit card bill on time--whatever amount you are required to pay--each month so that your account will not become delinquent.




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chinagringo


Apr 28, 2011, 6:06 PM

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A number of years ago, I came to the conclusion that I could be a space cadet when it came to credit cards and timely payments. Our solution was a Costco AMEX card which really isn't a credit card but a convenience card that has to be paid off in full each month. Life is so much better!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Gringal

Apr 28, 2011, 6:26 PM

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Paying the credit card bill IN FULL every month is doing yourself a favor. You could probably get better interest rates from the Mob. We only use our credit card for internet purchases.
Of course, now they charge you just for the privilege of having the card, with a new yearly fee. Grrrr.


Rolly


Apr 28, 2011, 6:39 PM

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I also use my card only for internet purchases -- mostly Kindle books.

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joaquinx


Apr 28, 2011, 7:04 PM

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BofA has BillPay where you can set up recurring payments from your checking account. BofA will even send you an e-statement on your credit card.

Since most expats here have a checking account with BofA and some have a credit card with them, missing a payment would take an effort on their part. Many of us use online calendars such as Google or Yahoo that send us emails when certain events are to take place (I don't want to miss my rent payment).

I feel that BofA is trying to get rid of some deadbeats by driving them off with high interest rates when they are chronically late.


(This post was edited by joaquinx on Apr 28, 2011, 7:04 PM)


salto_jorge

Apr 29, 2011, 7:30 AM

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The main issue is using someone elses money on a short term basis and not paying them back quickly.

Many use the cards to pay bills and pay off the balance asap, others as loans, then others use them and never intend to pay the bill like it is free money.

Right now Frontier Airlines (barclays) card has a purchase apr rate up to 29% (20.99 mine) , this is a card that many expats picked up when Frontier was flying into Guadalajara for the mileage points. If you miss a payment they have a fee, I am not sure what it is.

The BoFA card has been mentioned as the best card for getting cash at ATM's and I agree. Besides their new APR rate, there is now charging a monthly service charge if your overall balance is below a set limit ( I have been hit with this charge recently).

Like any card, short term loans have high rates and need to be paid off ASAP or you help the banks card division make their numbers.

Unlike the starter of this thread, all banks are the same and are in the same business.
Those that behave differently then the bigger banks go under on a regular basis and are taken over by the FDIC and other banks.


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robt65

Apr 29, 2011, 8:31 AM

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Hi All,

I’m sorry I may have been a little cranky yesterday on this post. I had just returned to my RV from the hospital as I fell and actually broke my knee cap on my good (vs.: amputated) leg. I was almost completely packed to go home to Queretaro. Although not totally broken in half (that would have required surgery), it does have a 75% break in it, so I have a flexible cast for support. Fortunately, I have a friend coming to Reynosa tomorrow morning, to drive back with me to Queretaro. It’s good I have some really good Mexican friends. A moment’s notice and all he asked was where and when. I can drive, as I can still use my foot on the good leg in a side to side motion for the brake and gas, but it’s very difficult to get in and out of the Tahoe or walk so well. Hopefully, my friend can get the aduana and or the permit folks come out to the car and assist doing the paperwork that way. He will also help me walking the Chocolate Lab I am bringing back and getting food etc for us during the trip home. Once cleared through (hopefully) we will head out across the Anzalduas Bridge, then on to the cuota towards Monterrey and Hwy 57 to Queretaro, stopping overnight along the way. So again, I’m sorry if I was a little cranky yesterday.
Robt65


jrpierce


Apr 29, 2011, 4:00 PM

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Bummer! I hope your knee heals soon.

Jim


robt65

Apr 29, 2011, 4:08 PM

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Hey Jim,

Thanks for the kind thoughts. I leave in the morning for Home in Queretaro. I have someone to ride with me now. Sure amd happy aobut that and humbled at that family's kindness. A 14 hour bus ride to meet me in Reynosa and go home with me.

Robt65


robt65

Apr 29, 2011, 9:22 PM

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Hello all,

I certainly did not expect the responses that have been coming for this innocent post to try to draw attention to a new high interest rate for missing your CC payment not by days but in reality by hours.


salto Jorge in part said:
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The BoFA card has been mentioned as the best card for getting cash at ATM's and I agree. Besides their new APR rate, there is now charging a monthly service charge if your overall balance is below a set limit ( I have been hit with this charge recently)." (more on this part later in this post)

and . . . . . . "Unlike the starter of this thread, all banks are the same and are in the same business.
Those that behave differently then the bigger banks go under on a regular basis and are taken over by the FDIC and other banks."


I disagree with the later statement I bank with Inter National Bank on the Texas side and it is owned by (yes owned by) Banorte. I do not pay any fees (none - NADA) for using my debit card from Inter National Bank in the Banorte machines. When I have had to wire larger amounts for property purchases I have paid a normal low charge fee for the wire service.


joaquinx said: Since most expats here have a checking account with BofA and some have a credit card with them, missing a payment would take an effort on their part. Many of us use online calendars such as Google or Yahoo that send us emails when certain events are to take place (I don't want to miss my rent payment).

Rolly said:
I also use my card only for internet purchases -- mostly Kindle books.

Esperanza said:
Robt65, if you read the entire linked document again, you'll see that it mentions other banks'
penalty interest rates, in particular HSBC's delinquent interest rate. HSBC's penalty rate is higher than BofA's.

Mazbook1 said :
Actually, as penalty credit card interest rates go, the 30% really isn't much different than many banks have had for years. When I moved to México permanently in 1998, I carried a Chase credit card. Unfortunately, a few months later in the confusion of getting the house ready for occupancy, I overlooked the payment to Chase for a month. The next month's statement reflected a penalty interest rate of somewhere between 26% and 30% (too long ago to remember exactly now). Since no one at Chase seemed to be able to tell me what I could do to get back to the normal interest rate (or even IF it was possible), I cancelled the card.

And here is Casa's Account:
Although I do agree that 30% interest rate seems excessive it is considered LOW for Mexico. (Do you have a Mexican credit card?) Get the whole story by clicking the link below. The most expensive card found in this study had a CAT of 92%!!

De esta forma, en el mercado, las tarjetas clásicas más económicas son las de Banorte, que tiene un CAT del 18%, Scotiabank con 34.2% y BBVA Bancomer en 34.3% de CAT.


Thus, in the market, of traditional credit cards cards the least expensive are Banorte, which has a CAT 18%, Scotiabank 34.2% and BBVA Bancomer in 34.3% of CAT.

That 34.3% by the way is with good credit, that is NOT a penalty interest rate.

(CAT = Costo anual total or total annual cost very similar to the APR of the card)

Now please do not take what I am about to say personally, any of you.

Does no one remember the grand recession only two short years ago? Who was the start of this recession, What companies were fined by the feds to the tune of millions and millions of (your) dollars for being excessive in their practices? Two of the biggest perps in this banking industry were B of A and Chase. All of the proven misdealing that the consumer was paying for including millions and millions of annual bonuses as millions of (well documented( mishandling of mortgages (using out of company) fake signatures on foreclosure documentations that the banks now are having to back track and reinstate the foreclosed persons and family's by giving back their homes? Does anyone not remember the men and women being evicted by these aforementioned banks as the banks You wouldn't believe the people going into McDonald's and other fast food jints and charging their Big Mac's, doesn't anyone see the problem with such fiscal thinking?

All of us including yours truly have at one time or another griped about the rise in costs of fuel to groceries and other consumables . . .. why do you think that is so? This is one of the reasons I really like doing business n Mexico, it is basically a cash society, including big ticket items such as property and cars.

joaquinx, Casa and salto Jorge got fairly close when they admitted to the high interests they were paying,but I am just wondering . . . . . . doesn't any one mind enough to not give these banks your hard earned money? 30% WOW to me that is a WOW for late fees or not. I think I'll ust keep my 30 percents . . . . . I can use it for better things than just giving it away. joaquinx sait it perfectly . . . . . "Of course, now they charge you just for the privilege of having the card, with a new yearly fee. Grrrr"

Not much different in business practices really than the average cartel's business philosophy .. . . . as long as there are willing consumers (or sheep) we will gladly continue to take their money! (smiling) especially since they give it so willingly!

robt65



 
 
 
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