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Rolly


Nov 23, 2008, 8:12 AM

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The economy is turning sour in Lerdo

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The economic downturn has begun to have a big impact here in Lerdo. Today's paper reports a 50% drop in orders for marble and marble products -- a major industry here. The paper also reported a major layoff of construction workers because Infonavit has suspended its participation in housing construction. No word on when it may resume.

The water department is so strapped for cash that it is now threatening, for the first time, to cut water to people more than 6 months behind on their bills. Apparently, that is a lot of people. Accounts receivable amounts to several million pesos. The water department owes CFE a couple of million that they don't have.

The increased security cost as a result of the Zeta wars has left the city in financial distress.

On a much smaller scale, I am distressed by what has happened to my IRA. Ugh!!!!

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TlxcalaClaudia

Nov 23, 2008, 1:58 PM

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snapped in half I assume? (IRA)


thriftqueen

Nov 26, 2008, 5:49 AM

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In Alamos, Sonora the copper mines have laid off 40 workers and will close the mines the EOM. Sad news for many more workers. They had been in operation for about 3 years or so. The mines had spent tons of money opening that mine. Even bought out all the homes in the village of Piedras Verdes, relocating the village to a nearby area. They said the market for copper has dried up.

Then we had that incredible flash flood causing all the businesses located in the central area to be closed for two to three weeks. Many workers have been laid off and not called back to work. We see shop owners now working the counters in many of the stores where before they had employees behind the counter. The Mexican woman we stayed with after losing the use of our casa works in the judicial system where they processed claims relating to the flood. We learned those shop owners had no insurance. They were filing claims as part of the procedure to obtain government help.

That's bad news that the marble works are also suffering, not just for Lerdo but also for Alamos as they produce lots of marble in the nearby area and process it in Navojoa. Most of the trucks hauling the marble to be processed are from the truckers union in Alamos.


drmike

Nov 26, 2008, 8:33 AM

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In our village in the Central Highlands we have seen for the past six months a large number of young men in the villa, who were not here when we moved here last year. I suppose they are one's who have left the US for the lack of work and tighter immigration enforcement and now have returned home, to no jobs. What the ultimate upshot of the situation with these unemployed men, I don't know.
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Carron

Nov 26, 2008, 4:45 PM

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Likewise here in Cd. Acuna. We drove down the tourist strip just a few minutes ago and it was depressing. In past years Thanksgiving week has been a real boom with families, college students, retirees from up North shopping, hunters filling the bars and hotels. Did not see a single tourist. Most of the shops were closed as were the bars and discos. I can't imagine what is going to happen here. Many, many locales up for rent or outright sale.


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johanson


Nov 26, 2008, 7:10 PM

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Likewise along the shores of Lake Chapala, but perhaps not as bad as explained above. It seems like most if not all of those folks who own their homes are back, but there appear to be fewer folks coming down to rent. When talking to a Mexican aquaintance who comes each day from Guadalajara to Ajijic to sell windshield wipers etc, he said he is selling about the same amount of product, but only because he is selling to more Mexicans to make up for the fewer NoB type purchasers. When talking to a local attorney who helps with immigration papers etc he says his business is down by maybe 10%.

So maybe things are not as bad here as they are in some of the other areas of mexico. Oh, there seem to be more locals coming up to me saying they are looking for work. And usually they speak English quite well and when asked say that they recently returned from NoB


Oscar2

Nov 27, 2008, 8:46 AM

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This is an interesting question and of course, surfaces mentally and encourages discussions, here on MC. Many promulgate the financial panic, domino effect, with a sense of fear that feeds on itself and things start shutting down. Businesses of all types feel this flurry and onrush of human panic and get in lockstep with the rest.

First off, I’d like to make it clear that by no stretch of the imagination am I a qualified economist, nor politically inclined. If fact, at this advanced point in my life, its just not conducive to the kind of peace of mind, my age now feels its initialed too.....Smile

However, from what you and I see through various prisms and sources, I come away with perhaps a lighter side of what maybe occurring and I think we all know a title wave of a “shake out” has been brow beaten and predicted by more qualified economist in the not too distant past.

Most of us know that a maelstrom of many things, amongst them artificial inflation and artificial credit qualifications were engineered by the quick buck entrepreneurs where some folks were actually buying homes in the half mil dollar range and literally had no job to boot and we all know why lenders were doing this. Yes, they would sell dollar empty buyers loans, which were resold and eventually ended up on wall street floor until now.

What are the implications of this shake out, not just NoB but SoB where American dollars have and will always be needed to help balance Mexico’s budget. The talk, I hear on MC now is slowly changing (as it should) to lesser expat traffic and this (without the panic) will, in the long run, be a tough metamorphous brought on by an overdue economic reality check.

With jobs falling wayside for Mexicans NoB and same for SoB, what long-range affect will this bring-on? IMO eventually prices across the board will drop exponentially and with this sagging economy, so will the down spiraling buyers demands.

Its like , well, the bottom has dropped out, now what? Well, the bottom hasn’t dropped out, lets just say overall expectations have lowered to a more realistic living level where the dollar will eventually now buy more and/or otherwise if businesses aren’t in-line with the economy and/or reconstruction of business affairs wane, those businesses drop out in the shake out.

I sense in Mexico and elsewhere, a precipitous downturn, will for a period, probably stymie large scale building construction and much more. We’ll have to make due with what is available at lesser prices, but isn’t that what many expats initially came to Mexico for in the first place?

Who knows, I may just be whistling in the wind but then again, it would be interesting to hear someone else’s take. Well, its early Thanksgiving morning and the hot oven anxiously wait’s for the big bird guest. Have a happy and nice Thanksgiving.

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Georgia


Nov 27, 2008, 9:50 AM

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I think what has boosted the Lakeside economy a bit is that the tapatios are now heading for Lake Chapala instead of Puerto Vallarta and the restaurants at Piedra Barrenada are booming. It took my husband about an hour to travel to Ajijic from El Chante last weekend. But, yes, many young men are returning from NOB because work has dried up there and they have homes and family here.
 
 
 
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