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TomG

Jun 12, 2004, 8:55 PM

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Migrant smuggling pipeline

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David Kyle, an expert on migrant smuggling at the University of California, said Latin American governments, which have grown dependent on money sent home by migrants, put up little more than symbolic fights against smugglers and even celebrated illegal migrants as national heroes. In the United States, the fight against the smuggling clashes with powerful economic interests that depend on illegal workers.


http://www.nytimes.com/...ricas/13ECUA.html?hp

For anyone interested in the underworld of illegal immigration here is an insiders report of the pipeline from Equador by sea to Guatemala, then through Mexico to the USA and on to distribution through the country. I was on a bus in Guatemala loaded with Central Americans who were already illegal in Guatamala. They all got off at a safehouse 10 minutes short of the border, having been shaken down by a Guatemalan migra in Huehuetenango. People around me on the bus seemed quite aware of what was going on. The bus jefe seemed to be engineering the operation. The faster he pushed he driver, the faster his cargo was delivered and off the bus. I had not even seen a movie of a bus ride that dangerous - all decending mountain driving, passing vehicles in twos and threes on blind curves.

I have a Mexican friend who is a social worker in southern Mexico who told us of the deteriorating social conditions in Southern Mexico brought on by the Central Americans.



Bubba

Jun 13, 2004, 2:29 PM

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TomG:

I read your article which was interesting but I'm not sure where you are going with it.

These migrants that come through Mexico on their way to the U.S. are desperate and the U. S. has made their plight even more difficult by forcing them into passage from easier access points in places such as Tijuana to inhospitable lands in Arizona where they are even more likely to perish. These people must traverse dangerous routes from points in Sonora to such towns as Phoenix and Tucson before they disperse thoroughout the United States in search of employment picking grapes in California or plucking chickens in Alabama.

During the past year, according the the Guadalajara daily, MURAL, 206,000 illegals were captured trying to cross into Arizona from Mexico and were returned to this country or points of origin. Along this route. 208 migrants were known to have died in 2003. God knows how many were never found. The countries heading the list of those sending illegal immigrants through Mexico in 2003 were Guatamala, El Salvador, Honduras, Ecuador and Brazil. Others encountered included people from Poland, Afganistan, Jamaica, Argentina, Ukraine, Haiti and China.

Among Mexican nationals, Michoacan contributed the most illegal immigrants deported from the Arizona border so far in 2004 followed by Guanajuato. Other major contributors of illegal immigrants caught in the desert in Arizona and deported included the states of Hidalgo, Veracruz, Chiapas, Oaxaca and Estado de Mexico.

When my wife worked for an exclusive Napa Valley winery, she told me that Michoacan was a major source of vineyard employees from field workers to cellar management. If this important supply of labor were cut off, the wine industry in Califonia would be in a shambles.

Why can't there be a rational policy in the United States for allowing migrant labor in to perform these vital functions. We have known many migrant workers both in California and here in Mexico who have absolutely no desire to stay in the United States beyond the time necessary to make a decent living. A respectful and rational guest worker program would make sense. If a few stayed over, they would contribute to a productive society. Instead the U.S. encourages the sort of criminal activity we see in the article regarding Ecuadorean worker smuggling and coyotes depositing desperate and hopefull laborers in hostile deserts. This is shameful and inexcusable.

Of course, Latin American governments' apparent opposition to illegal migration into the U.S. is a sham just as the opposition to that migration into the U.S. is a sham by the U.S. government. I promise you that the economy of California, my home state for the past 30 plus years, would virtually collapse without its huge influx of illegal workers from all over the globe. And, on my last visit to my native state of Alabama, it became apparent to me that were it not for Latin American laborers, we would be plucking and gutting our own chickens.

Go figure!


(This post was edited by Bubba on Jun 13, 2004, 2:43 PM)


jardinero viejo

Jun 13, 2004, 4:40 PM

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I agree totally with Bubba's response. When I first started out in the construction industry 30 years ago, Mexican illegals were unheard of. They worked the fields, but that was about it. Once in a great while you heard about a job site or a contractor with a 'wetback' working.

Of course, that has all changed drastically. Just as in the ag industry, the hospitality industry, the restaurant industry, et.al., hispanics are by far the dominant work force in construction. And I'm not talking cheap wages and unskilled labor that only performs the grunt work. These are $20-$30/hr folks that not only know what they are doing, they have become very, very good at it. It is to the point now that there are several layers of hispanic involvement, from the newly-arrived who are still wide-eyed and open-eared all the way to the foreman overseeing and training 10-20 others.

Using California as an example, the construction industry could never have kept up with the pace of demand had it not been for this workforce. I am guessing that is the same in these other industries as well. The state's economy would not have achieved what it has without them.

So, as Bubba asks, doesn't it seem that the US should just acknowledge this? More than acknowledge, maybe even celebrate this great partnership with the Mexican people? It appears to me to be a win-win! It seems that safe and legal entry could be arranged. Of course, workers here would pay normal taxes to support the infrastructure they use. A reasonable additional tax could be levied - sort of a 'thank you for letting me work here' tax - so that everyone in the US would feel OK with this arrangement. Ideas could go on and on, but this should not be an impossible task.

I too have not met many Mexicans who come here to stay. They are mostly here just long enough to pay off the family farm, or to build a house, or to simply provide an easier life for the rest of their family in Mexico. Actually, these folks realize that a lot of things about the US just aren't that cool! We are the ones who think we have it so great!

If the tables were turned and Mexico was the vibrant economy, I would be the first one down there looking for work. Then, with my motivation from back in the US and lack of distraction, I'd be one of the best employees a Mexican businessperson could ask for.

I think the US needs to practice the 'Golden Rule' a bit more.
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iris polo

Jun 14, 2004, 7:11 AM

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I compltetly agree with the both of you! Well said!


Kip


Jun 14, 2004, 8:14 AM

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I think the only possible way that the US could possible do without the migrant workers would be to shut down welfare..but then, of course, who would teach those people how to work?

Here in Mississippi, trying to find someone who will actually work is darn near impossible. I'm seeing more and more Mexican workers. One of the main difference in their attitude toward work and I guess life too, was really brought home to me the other day. I usually acknowledge road workers with a nod or a wave. It's hard work and it's hot. I normally get, at the most, a curt nod back. The other day I waved at a young Mexican working on the new high way. His face lighted up with a smile that was dazzling. It made my day.

It puzzles and distresses me to see good people who are responsible for themselves and willing to work, get preyed on when trying to come here to work, then get kicked out after all of their sacrifices to get here in the first place. It makes no sense. What would we do without them?

Who do you know who would go through such hell to go far away from home to an often times hostile and patronizing environment to work for minimum wage and send the lions share of their pay to their family?

We're all "Americans". There's got to be a better way.
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