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TomG

Jul 28, 2004, 7:21 PM

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Jimmy Rogers in Mexico

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Here is the link to Jimmy Rogers website with his audio and video clips, and fotos of his around the world 2 year driving trip.

http://www.jimrogers.com

You can pick the country from the drop down menu and then choose a city he is staying in.

For those who do not know of Jimmy Rogers, he founded the Quantum Hedge Fund along with George Soros around 1970. It was the greatest investment fund of all time. The reason for its success was that both Soros (a Central European immigrant) and Rogers (Alabama escapee by way of Yale & Oxford) had a world vision in their speculations. They made a killing on international currencies, finding countries with weak fundamentals and an overvalued or undervalued currency. Most of Rogers energies since the early '90's has been aimed at global thinking and international investing. In one African country where he observed good conditions he drove to the capital, went to the local exchange, and bought shares in every stock listed on the board. He bought currencies and shares all over the world. He is crazy about China and its future. But poor Mexico! Mexico was his last country to drive through after 2 years on the road. Listen to his audio clip on Mexican efficiency. He does not find any cuteness in Mexican economic and political costumbres.

His economic rule of thumb for a quick understanding of a country's economy is go straight to the black marketers and find out what is going on; then progress to the madams at the bordellos and asked their opinions - or visa versa. He says it is the only way to find the truth, talking to economic ministers only gets you caught in a blizzard of BS. This explains to him why most experts usually get it broadside wrong on major economic directional moves. He says he wouldn't waste his time talking to an economic minister for purposes of gathering useful information.

If Mexican big shots were not legally beyond criticism and suggestion from visiting foreigners (or thier own black marketers with master degrees in Chemical Engineering), and if Mexico was not riddled with corruption, and if…if…if…… the poor and willing Mexican people would have at least a small chance in the fast changing world that is coming. The Chinese and Indians started way behind Mexico only a few years ago. China now produces 500,000 engineers a year! And they employ them! Some of them work over a hundred hours a week. Manana was yesterday.

I just had a MS Messenger chat with a young professional friend in Chiapas, her father and brother-in-law want to cross over to the USA like her cousins did 6 months ago. I had to send her a link to the weather channel website for Phoenix set to metric units and tell her about the drones flying the border now. 50,000 pesos for 2 guys is too much money to bet on that weather and those drones. She’s got an economic degree and doesn’t know that China is on the rise, and is sucking up raw materials like crazy (not quite equal to the USA…..yet….maybe 4 years). When I explained what was happening in Chinese growth she thought maybe they ought to consider going there. I then explained that the Chinese workers work for 10 pesos a day. She got depressed. I apologized for mentioning it. She is very intelligent and well educated, but news in current economic affairs costs money. Attending a symposium on anti-neoliberalism and current directions in Cuba and Venezuela is probably not going to help – at least not until after neoliberalism hits the wall.

Poor Mexico, no choice but to wait and see. Well, hell! if it all blows up, it was a good choice. Everything come to those who wait....patiently. Quien sabe.




NEOhio

Jul 30, 2004, 11:24 AM

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Re: [TomG] Jimmy Rogers in Mexico

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This was interesting, thanks for posting it. Anita


esperanza

Jul 30, 2004, 12:44 PM

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Re: [TomG] Jimmy Rogers in Mexico

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Yep, a very interesting read--both your post and his website. Thanks, Tom.




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Carol Schmidt


Jul 30, 2004, 2:54 PM

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Re: [TomG] Jimmy Rogers in Mexico

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The Mexican edition of the Miami Herald posted yesterday that 20% of Mexicans live in severe poverty, less than $1 US a day, and about 50% live in "moderate" poverty, $10 US a day, or $3650 a year income. That was considered progress from the last report two years ago.

Carol Schmidt


TomG

Jul 30, 2004, 5:51 PM

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Re: [Carol Schmidt] Jimmy Rogers in Mexico

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A few months ago I talked with a 30ish woman in front of the Church of Santo Domingo in San Cristobal, Chiapas. She had a PhD in one of the areas of Chemistry, but for lack of opportunity she was a federal government employee in rural Morelos working door to door so to speak in nutrition. She told me that the people she sees eat a corn mush from their own cultivation supplemented with wild green plants they find in the surrounding mountains (weeds). These are the less than a dollar a day people. A comfortable step up: In the sierra of the Mixe region of Oaxaca I was treated to a soup of a tiny bit of dried fish, crudely hand-ground grey-blue tortillas wood cooked (the big 12" ones), and a cooked weed dish (good). Conditions where I was visiting had improved a lot over the last few years: schools, the kids speak Spanish, sewn cloths,.....everything!

I hope God gives them a fair shake in the next life. Although it would require some lightening up on enforcement of some of the Ten Commandments. It would be a shame to see them take the short end twice.


Carron

Jul 31, 2004, 7:03 AM

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Re: [Carol Schmidt] Jimmy Rogers in Mexico

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When I lived in Chiapas several years ago, I was a profesora of English at the state university in Tuxtla Gutierrez. I earned 2850 pesos per month, or less than $10 US per day. (That was my net after taxes, retirement, and mandatory union membership.) It was doable except for my huge monthly Telmex bill and a retired husband who had to buy building supplies to keep himself occupied. $10 US per day can buy a lot of fresh local food.


TomG

Aug 1, 2004, 10:11 AM

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Given a profesora's pay at that level, one has to rachet down from there for manual labor, store clerking, and lower level office work. That sort of makes the pay level in line with what I heard on the streets and in the villages. When the neighbor in Oaxaca asked me what illegal Mexican's earn in the USA per hour I told him $5 (I didn't want to encourage him). He said "Wow, equal to one day's pay here!"


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buy a lot of fresh local food


I would love to spend time in a big wholesale food commodity market like Celaya and find out what things really cost, and how things are valued and graded. In Oaxaca I came to settle for Thursday evening at the Central de Abastos when the big trucks came in and sold to the local vendors who might show up at the local markets next day and so forth. Radishes that sold for 5 pesos a small bunch regularly at the Central went for 12 pesos a roll. The rolls were much fresher (leaves springy and green as if an hour out of the garden) and probably equaled 5-6 small bunches. Same pattern for beets. We amazed all by cooking and using beet greens.
 
 
 
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