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Morgan

Sep 3, 2004, 6:10 AM

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Handicapped accessibility

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Back in October of 2003 there was a thread relating to handicapped accessibility. A poster had indicated that he had researched various areas rated them on this aspect. He was asked to post the rating but the thread petered out without any further information being shared.
I have some questions regarding this topic and would appreciate hearing the experiences of others who have travelled to and around Mexico with impaired mobility, i.e. using a wheelchair.
Thank you in advance.
Morgan



ET

Sep 3, 2004, 10:35 AM

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Re: [Morgan] Handicapped accessibility

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No direct experience in a wheelchair, but I've spent some time with a US-based architect who specializes in accessibility issues which has served to somewhat open my eyes. In major urban cores (downtown Guadalajara as an example) you'll find curb cuts and ramps in public areas. Similarly, new-construction hotels and large stores will have accessibility features. You will not however find standardization of accessibility features, such as the ADAAG lends to US designs, and items such as path of travel aren't carefully reasoned so that you may have a barrier immediately following a special access feature. Additionally ramps are frequently constructed at the same pitch that the adjacent stairs are (some of the cathedrals in downtown GDL are a fascinating example, with a section historic stone stairs having a form placed over them, and concrete poured to literally fill in the risers and form a ramp) and no additional landing areas are provided, meaning they're highly hazardous to navigate, and almost certainly require 1 very strong or 2 attendants to assist the wheelchair user. Once you're outside of a major urban area or tourist destination, forget it......

Attached is one of a series of pictures I've started taking on trips to Mexico for the general amusement of the architect friend. For those trying to better grasp what's going on in the picture, not only is the pitch of the ramp too steep, it's too narrow, constructed out of an inappropriate material (steel diamond plate, which is much too slippery), and terminates at the bottom with a "chair trap" guaranteed to flip a chair (and the occupant) who's not absolutely creeping down the ramp.
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raferguson


Sep 3, 2004, 11:35 AM

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Re: [ET] Handicapped accessibility

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I am not an expert, but I have designed a few wheelchair ramps to meet US codes. The ramps in Mexico are generally very steep, and better suited to carts than wheelchairs. Also, steps inside buildings are common, etc. The sidewalks in many areas are not easy to navigate even for the able-bodied.

So I agree that Mexico is not an easy country to navigate in a wheelchair, despite the relatively recent popularity of ramps.

The US appears to have better accomodations for the handicapped than Europe, so may be the world leader in such things.

Richard


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Carol Schmidt


Sep 3, 2004, 12:46 PM

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Re: [raferguson] Handicapped accessibility

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Last summer I could barely walk and couldn't do stairs, and I was pretty much housebound until I left for surgery in the states. I became acutely aware of stairs in all sorts of places--one right at the door into the stalls in the bathrooms was common. A sign appeared in front of one store in San Miguel de Allende that said it was for handicapped, but there was absolutely no curb cut anywhere to go with it. The streets and sidewalks here are so irregular, mostly cobblestones, with gaping holes appearing out of nowhere and metal jutting out of a sidewalk with no apparent reason, that it is dangerous to walk even without paying full attention. I've fallen four times in two years here. I regret telling friends who are handicapped that I don't recommend Mexico for them.

Carol Schmidt


Rolly


Sep 3, 2004, 1:21 PM

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Re: [Carol Schmidt] Handicapped accessibility

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I agree with Carol. With few exceptions, Mexico is not a place for the ambulatorily handicapped. I see several guys in wheelchairs in my town. They are always in the streets because the sidewalks are impossible for them. The large grocery stores and Sam's are OK and even have handicapped restroom facilities, but most stores are not accessible.

I think a vacation in Mexico in a wheelchair would not be a good experience.

Rolly Pirate

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Cynthia7

Sep 3, 2004, 7:46 PM

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I broke a bone in my foot in Mexico and I agree it is not handicapped accessible....but Las Vegas is!!!
 
 
 
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