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satman


Sep 28, 2004, 8:30 PM

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Ghosts in Mexico

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After an interesting, lengthy conversation with a very close friend and Mexican national, I have begun to realize that I have heard numerous reports of ghost sightings in Mexico. I have heard stories from the most scary to the funniest of situations. One story that comes to mind is that of my friend's grandfather near Patzcuaro, Michoacan. My friend tells me that his grandfather was famous for riding his horse into town from his ranch and getting drunk with his friends before heading home. He is said to have been so drunk that his friends would help him onto his horse and pat the horse on the hind quarter to get him moving. Once the horse was started, it's said that he knew the way home. On one occasion, my friend's grandfather came across a woman with a shapely figure bent over a small stream, and he spoke to her. When she looked up, she had the face of a goat. Keep in mind that this happened at two in the morning in the middle of the Mexican wilderness. Could it have been a real experience, or can it be chalked up to a drunk's imagination? Who knows?

My conclusion to the reason that many more ghost stories are told AND believed in Mexico versus other countries is the fact that the Catholic religion encourages and lends to apparitions of the Virgin and Saints. I could be wrong, but it's only happened once before in my life. Any other ideas on the subject?
SATMAN

"Some will bitch about a dollar, while there are those without a dime."



(This post was edited by tonyburton on Sep 28, 2004, 10:32 PM)



Carol Schmidt


Sep 29, 2004, 7:50 AM

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Re: [satman] Ghosts in Mexico

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The whole concept of the divison between living and dead is much more tenuous than in the U.S. Note the Day of the Dead celebrations and the popularity of the katrinas and other skeleton dolls. Please, please read Juan Rulfo's Pedro Paramo, considered by many Mexicans as the best of all Mexican novels, and try to figure out who is living, what is magical realism, who is really dead--they're all one continuum. To even begin to comprehend this philosophy requires a total mind shift for us. Other Latin American writers also give us a glimpse into this totally new (to us) way of looking at life and death. Their books may be the only way we can come close to understanding. "Ghosts" is not the way to start thinking about it.

Carol Schmidt

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Georgia


Sep 29, 2004, 9:10 AM

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Re: [Carol Schmidt] Ghosts in Mexico

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Exactly, Carol. The time/space continuim is presented in Hispanic literature with a twist: they borrow the aztec concept of the cyclical nature of time. For some hispanic authors all time is present. Read Cortazar's short story "La Noche Boca Arriba" and "El Axolotl" as well as Gabriel Garcia Marquez's "Cien Anos de Soledad" to get a sense of this.


dumois


Sep 29, 2004, 7:45 PM

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Re: [satman] Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe and the Catholic Church

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"... the fact that the Catholic religion encourages and lends to apparitions of the Virgin..."

The apparitions of the Virgin of Guadalupe were at first vigorously rejected by Catholic Church officials. Strong popular support established the cult of Nuestra Señora against them.

Saludos desde Guadalajara,

Dumois


alex .

Sep 30, 2004, 3:50 PM

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Re: [satman] then there is the Chiapas Dragon

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Carron can fill in the details.
Alex
 
 
 
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