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Georgia


Oct 15, 2003, 7:30 AM

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GPS systems on vehicles in Mexico???

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My husband and I are looking to purchase a new car. One of the models we are interested in has a GPS system for the US and Canada, but not Mexico. I have seen the same vehicle offered for sale in Guadalajara, although I don't know if it had a GPS system. It's a fairly new model, the Chrysler "Pacifica." Does anyone know if GPS systems are readily available in Mexico?



johanson


Oct 15, 2003, 10:06 AM

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Re: [Georgia] GPS systems on vehicles in Mexico???

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Sure they work anywhere in the world. I have a hand held one that gives me my Lon. Lat. and alt. anywhere in the world. and I have seen units in cars that also include the software that includes mapping. I've also seen portable units that a friend placed in my car as we drove from Ajijic through Joco and up to Beuna Vista, that showed a map of the road and where we were at along that road.

That said, I don't know who has them for sale


Georgia


Oct 15, 2003, 10:42 AM

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Re: [johanson] Now... the $64,000 question

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Thank you. If anyone knows who manufactures the CD's for automotive GPS systems that cover Mexico, I'd sure like to know.


HHERRINGTON


Oct 15, 2003, 12:55 PM

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Re: [Georgia] Now... the $64,000 question

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Did a Google seach using GPS MAPS MEXICO as the search critera that returned many listings.
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Oct 15, 2003, 2:06 PM

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Re: [HHERRINGTON] Now... the $64,000 question

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I am sure that a map for a GPS system would be brand specific. You will need to contact the car maker.


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tonyburton


Oct 15, 2003, 5:27 PM

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Re: [Georgia] Now... the $64,000 question

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Georgia, Presumably you've already looked at previous threads on GPS on the Forums? If not, use the "Search POsts" function and enter "GPS" to find them. I'm not sure they cover precisely what you're looking for, but they will provide some useful background information, helping you know what to ask or look for.


Georgia


Oct 16, 2003, 5:05 AM

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Re: [tonyburton] Thanks, everyone. This is my take from reading posts:

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From the various threads it looks as though the GPS systems for Mexico are (1) probably not available for the particular vehicle I'm contemplating - although they say they are developing maps for Mexico (2) available in free standing units - but not thoroughly developed to the city street level in Mexico yet, and (3) generally useful when traveling on major highways from city to city in Mexico.

Do those of you with GPS systems or knowledge about them concur?


N2Futur

Oct 16, 2003, 9:11 AM

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Re: [Georgia] Thanks, everyone. This is my take from reading posts:

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Georgia - according to this website: http://www.gpsnow.com/gmahbm.htm, the Garmin GPS comes with a standard Americas map, which includes US, Canada, Mexico and South America.

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ET

Oct 18, 2003, 12:08 PM

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Re: [N2Futur] Thanks, everyone. This is my take from reading posts:

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N2Futur writes:
....according to this website: http://www.gpsnow.com/gmahbm.htm , the Garmin GPS comes with a standard Americas map, which includes US, Canada, Mexico and South America.


This is somewhat akin to announcing that the Denver, CO telephone book has phone listings for Mexico because you've found the calling guide contains the international country code for Mexico, and area codes for a dozen or so popular destination cities.

The current standard or base map for mapping GPSRs including the offerings by Garmin (a manufacturer with over a dozen offerings, rather than a single or specific unit), Magellan, and Lowrance offer map details which are discernible on scales on the order of 1 cm = 5 km. This yields a map with a level of detail which looks sort of like this (note that the referenced image is actually generated by Garmin PC software rather than one of their GPSRs).

The referenced website makes no attempt to conceal this. It states in part:

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The standard map coverage includes:
Oceans, rivers, and lakes (greater than 30 sq. miles)
Principal cities and many smaller cities and towns
Major interstates and principal highways
Political boundaries (state and international borders)


The "high resolution" maps used in automotive navigation systems, as well as handheld and portable GPSRs which have the capability of accepting detail map uploads or cartridges, yield details discernible on scale of 1 cm = 80 m or even better. Unfortunately, Navigation Technologies (NAVTECH) a privately-held company which provides the bulk of high-resolution digital map information used by consumer-channel GPSR-equipped devices, nor to my knowledge any of their competitors have offered high-resolution data for Mexico. An earlier message in the thread which announced findings on Google using the search terms "GPS MAPS MEXICO" was nothing more than web pages which contained any, some, or all of the listed terms anywhere on the pages, rather than actual high-resolution maps of Mexico.

If the operating electronics of the Chrysler Pacifica's navigation system are similar to the current generation (Chrysler) Mopar Alpine Electronics units (the UIs are different), comparisons to handheld and portable GPSRs are flawed. Although the Mopar units have less receiver channels (8 v the common 12 for current generation handhelds) they use both a gyroscope and a link to the vehicle's speed sensor to provide dead reckoning capabilities when satellite signals are lost, in contrast to handheld and portable units which use a more primitive last direction and calculated speed extrapolation for a few seconds after signals are lost. The net result would be a more accurate and reliable navigation device (because they're no longer depending simply on satellite data its not correct to call them GPSRs). A downside would be that being a dedicated-purpose system I significantly doubt that you'll be able to "slide" scanned images of maps beneath the location plots like you can with selected handheld GPSRs using a third-party program like GPSy or Fugawi.


Georgia


Oct 19, 2003, 6:52 AM

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Re: [ET] Thanks, everyone. This is my take from reading posts:

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Thanks, ET. I had gleaned as much when I went on the websites of the various gps suppliers. I don't anticipate navigational difficulties with lakes, rivers and streams while tooling along in my car. I am concerned about the intricacies of roads, highways, and byways: and they, apparently, aren't yet developed. Although, the maker of Chrysler's systems maintains they are developing a system for Mexico. Question is, of course, will it be in my lifetime?


ET

Oct 19, 2003, 9:24 AM

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Re: [Georgia] Thanks, everyone. This is my take from reading posts:

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Both GPSR and vehicle navigation system manufacturers as a group are purchasing or licensing their map data from separate companies who specialize in digital cartography and/or geographical information systems. The equipment manufacturers can claim they have anything in the pipeline they want, but if they don't have a source for the necessary information, it's not going to happen.

The general description of the Chrysler Pacifica's navigation system indicates that like the Chrylser/Mopar offering the mapping data being used is from NAVTECH. As a privately held company (their major investor is Philips Electronics), you don't get the option of wading through financial reports to glean ideas about projects and plans in the pipeline, and who their major clients are. Examining the distribution of their field offices, and their press releases for who's purchasing their data may however give you some idea of their focus.
 
 
 
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