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bbeitz


May 18, 2004, 8:40 AM

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Should I bring one of my cars down from the US or buy a Mexican plated car. What are the pros & cons. I have a 1997 Jeep Cherokee and a 2002 PT Cruiser. Would either be a good car in the Lakeside area. Would I be better off trading someone that is leaving for the US?
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Uncle Jack


May 18, 2004, 9:04 AM

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There are many of the same models here in the Guadalajara/Lake Chapala area. Service is available. If they are bought and paid for and in good condition, I'd bring them. Anything you could buy here to replace either would cost more money.

Just remember, only one imported car per person.

uj


jennifer rose

May 18, 2004, 10:19 AM

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Ditto, Uncle Jack.

You'll have at the very minimum five years' privilege of temporarily importing your foreign-plated car while living in Mexico -- and at the maximum until your personal expiration date. And as long as that option is available to you, I'd urge you to go ahead and bring down one of your US-plated cars. You haven't indicated whether or not your plan to live in Mexico is a permanent one, which makes keeping the US-plated vehicle an even more reasonable option.

Mexican car insurance, registration and taxes are substantially higher for the same vehicle than you'll end up paying for a US-plated one. If you opt down the road to seek inmigrado status (after 5 years as an FM-2), then you'll have no option but to buy a Mexican-plated vehicle. But until that time, take advantage of your ability to temporarily import the US-plated car.

If forced to make the choice, I'd opt for the Jeep Cherokee over the PT Cruiser, just because it's a larger vehicle.


bournemouth

May 18, 2004, 11:51 AM

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The Jeep Cherokee with higher ground clearance will take the "topes" or speedbumps more easily than the PT Cruiser.


Chumley

May 18, 2004, 1:14 PM

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Depends--the PT Cruiser comes with an option for 17" wheels, big enough for any tope.


Carol Schmidt


May 18, 2004, 1:59 PM

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I recommend the PT Cruiser: it's a 2002 compared to the 1997 Jeep, it will be easier to park and maneuver down narrow streets, and gas here is around $2.10 a gallon (ecologically as well as economically sounder). Plus, the PT Cruiser is so cute!

Carol Schmidt


Cynthia7

May 18, 2004, 2:06 PM

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I agree with Carol. We have a PTCruiser and it is the perfect car for where we live in Mexico. Good service-if needed- and wonderful for hauling since the seats fold up and give you a van in the rear. No problems with topes, side mirrors fold in and seats five very comfortably. Plus its got style!!


El Gringo Nuevo

May 18, 2004, 8:46 PM

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2.10 is sounding better and better. Around 2.20 +/- in Western Washington State. However, here in the states we can hope for a reduction in that price relatively soon. In Mexico, as I understand, the price is firm and increases each year, albeit only a small amount.


ET

May 18, 2004, 10:26 PM

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"Chumley" writes:
Depends--the PT Cruiser comes with an option for 17" wheels, big enough for any tope.


There won't be any significant change in road clearance using the factory/dealer wheel and tire options. A quick check of the PT Cruiser's specs show that they're offering the garden-variety base, +.5, and +1 options for the tire and wheel combinations, meaning that for every one inch increase in rim diameter, they're fitting the rim with a tire with between a 5 and 10% reduction in sidewall aspect ratio. Specifically your options for the PT Cruiser are:

base - 15" rims fitted with 195/65/15 tires
+0.5 configuration - 16" rims fitted with 205/55/16 tires
+1 configuration - 17" rims fitted with 205/50/17 tires

This means your 15", 16", and 17" wheels will be fitted with tires that have 5", 4.4", and 4" sidewall heights respectively, and tire diameters of 25", 24.9", and 25.1", yielding a difference in road clearance from the tires of less than 1%.

The "Plus One" technique has been used for years for fitting cars with lower profile, better handling tires (at the expense of ride comfort - the lower the aspect ratio of the tire the harsher the ride) without significantly altering the vehicle's road clearance or suspension geometry or triggering the need for a speedometer and odometer recalibration.


(This post was edited by ET on May 18, 2004, 10:28 PM)


Chumley

May 19, 2004, 12:33 PM

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Thanks for that incrediblely precise anaylsis of the differences offered as options on the PT Cruiser. Your information will help me in my decision as to the option I wish to have. Regardless, I agree with the previous posts--I'd take the PT Cruiser anyday over a run of the mill SUV.


smokesilver

May 19, 2004, 6:21 PM

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That fact that ALL PT Cruiser's are built in Mexico should suggest that replacement parts would be more available.


Rolly


May 19, 2004, 6:28 PM

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My Dodge pickup was built in Saltillo, yet I was told by the Dodge dealer in Torreón that he would need to order a part from the USA. He explained to me that just because a car is built in Mexico does not assure that spare parts will be quickly available. Even when seemingly exact models are sold in Mexico and the USA, they will not be identical in all their parts. Cars built for the USA market differ, sometimes in significant ways, from those built for the Mexican market.

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Papirex


May 19, 2004, 9:12 PM

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One thing to know is that automobile assembly plants are just that, assembly plants. They receive parts and components, complete engines, complete transmissions, etc. and assemble them in to a car. They manufacture few if any parts in the assembly plants.

When you order auto parts, you are dealing with the manufacturers parts division, not the assembly division. Some parts may, but probably won’t, be available from an assembly plant. They order just the parts they need for their monthly production goal.

We brought two cars here from The States. Four years ago, the Oldsmobile that I drive had to have the transmission rebuilt. The rebuild kit had to come from The U.S.A. According to the tracking site it reached U.S. customs at the Mexican border in two days. It took them a month to release them.

About that time some engine work needed to be done on the Dodge Caravan my wife drives. We were told that the engine was made in Japan, and the only source of internal parts for it was The United States. Same as the transmission parts for the Olds, two days to the border, one month hold up in U.S. customs.

A year later, the windshield wiper assembly on the van my wife drives fell apart. That assembly was the subject of a recall, I received a letter to that effect after we were living in Mexico. I took it to the Chrysler dealer here in Cuernavaca. The first thing they told me was that they did not honor foreign guarantees. The van was out of warrantee, the wiper assembly was subject to replacement under a recall. Chrysler here told me it was the same as a foreign guarantee, they would not honor it.

The service manager said they could fix it. I showed him the letter from Chrysler Corporation stating the assembly was a defective design, and needed to be replaced. He said OK, they would get the parts from the Chrysler factory that was still operating in Mexico City at that time. I had my doubts that he could get any parts from them, but three days later we picked up her car. The cost was only about 90 Bucks total.

Later that afternoon it started to rain. She turned on the wipers, and the linkage immediately fell apart. Back to Chrysler. I got a little stern with the service manager and told him I had paid for a new assembly, and he better come up with it. He then admitted that they had just snapped the old linkages together again, because a new assembly had to come from The U.S.A., it was not available in Mexico. He agreed to order the proper parts this time. Well, two days for the trip to the border, and one month sitting in American customs, and we had her van back, properly repaired. The dealer did honor his own guarantee, I was not charged any more than I had already paid them.

Not finished yet guys. Last December the transmission started to fail on the van. Same as before, rebuild kit ordered from The U.S., two days to the border, one month in U.S. customs.

Those illegitimate sons/daughters in U.S. customs seem to just love to jerk the chain of people living in Mexico. Oddly, the offenders are usually Chicanos themselves.

You will find routine maintenance parts for most cars anywhere in Mexico. Spark plugs, belts, filters, etc. It can get a little dicey when you’re looking for the innards of a major component though. Don’t expect to find a Pep Boys type store, if there is anything like them they are few and far between. I haven’t seen one where I live yet. If you are trying to locate the parts yourself, you will be looking in lots of little unlikely looking specialty stores. The pros know where to go to get anything that’s available. Until you know your town, it’s pretty hard to find stuff on your own.

Until you know your dealer, or mechanic, try to verify that you are getting what you paid for, just like you should do anywhere. Those guys at the Chrysler dealer here had charged me for a new wiper assembly even though they just snapped the old linkages together. Unfortunately, I couldn’t visually verify that, because that assembly is located under the cowl. It was actually lucky that it fell apart on first use, a month later and the local dealers’ repair guarantee would have been expired.

I’m sure some people have had great luck, and prompt delivery of auto parts to them in Mexico. I haven’t. I do believe “Be prepared for the absolute worst thing that can happen, anything better than that is pure gravy.”

Rex

"The supreme happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved" - Victor Hugo


lometogo


May 21, 2004, 9:14 PM

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Re: [bbeitz] Car in Mexico

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I'm looking to bring in my '96 H-D when I move to Mexico in Jan, 2005. Anybody with any experience in insuring such a bike?

Thanks,
Terence
 
 
 
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