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Rolly

Feb 5, 2012, 9:43 AM

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Buying a job at CFE

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My friend Nery, who was promised a job with CFE upon graduation from college, has been told that a budget crunch has forced his start date to June. He is not happy and is seeking other jobs.
He was also told that he could purchase a permanent, lifetime position for $70,000 pesos.
WOW! I've heard of teachers selling their jobs, but CFE selling jobs is a shocker.

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joaquinx

Feb 5, 2012, 9:55 AM

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A PEMEX job is worth 100,000 pesos.

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Feb 5, 2012, 10:31 AM

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Not that this isn't outrageous, but what would a headhunter (executive search service) charge and would they be able to guarantee "lifetime" employment?

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sparks

Feb 5, 2012, 10:33 AM

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A PEMEX job is worth 100,000 pesos.

If you mean pumping gas ... the young kids around here don't have that kind of money. Maybe they are family

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sparks

Feb 5, 2012, 10:35 AM

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Exactly ... what guarantee do you have after you pay your money

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joaquinx

Feb 5, 2012, 10:43 AM

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At the refinery, distribution, truck driver, or drill site. It's sorta like a PEMEX union certificate. You can put your job in a will, give it to a member of your family, or sell it.

stevebrtx

Feb 5, 2012, 10:46 AM

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Darn, now I'd like to have a CFE job to get on the inside and find out what the real costs are - ha.
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chicois8

Feb 5, 2012, 11:06 AM

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Forty years ago a border guard was 100,000 Pesos, but I am sure they did a little better than a CFE employee could do.........

norteño

Feb 5, 2012, 11:09 AM

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I remember an aduana officer position at the Sonoyta port of entry being sold for $5,000 US by the retiring inspector 30 years ago. That seems like very little considering the amount coming in from bribery and theft but they were presumably required to pass a substantial proportion upstairs to keep the job.

richmx2

Feb 5, 2012, 12:03 PM

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It sucks big time, but especially in tight job markets, "it's not what you know but who you know"... with the slight twist of the "whos" putting a monetary value on their relationship. Absent political or familial or sexual favors to trade, money is gonna have to do. I would never say such a thing, but one might think the paraestatals and government agencies might benefit from using competitive civil service examinations to fill their positions.

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joaquinx

Feb 5, 2012, 12:19 PM

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There is always a tight job market in Mexico. I can't tell, but are using sarcasm to make a point? Civil service examinations to fill government jobs? Please stop, this humor is killing me. LOL ROF

chicois8

Feb 5, 2012, 12:35 PM

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civil service = 1 man digging a ditch, 15 sidewalk supervisors watching.LOL

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Feb 5, 2012, 1:20 PM

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The selling of government jobs is no surprise after you have been here a while. About 10 years ago we had a neighbor that was a helicopter pilot for Pemex. He also told me that he had a membership in the electricians union that used to serve the now defunct LyF (Light and power) electric utility that used to serve central México until about 3 years ago.
I have a sobrino that is one of the highest paid engineers at Pemex. He is very good in his profession, he is out of the country about once a month. He did not buy his job.
My sobrino told me that any Mexican citizen could buy a membership in the LyF electricians union for $50,000 Pesos. They did not need to report for work, but they were on the payroll. All members of that union also got free electricity as part of their pay package. No incentive to stay away from the DAC rate there.
The LyF electric utility used to operate at a loss of several hundred million Pesos per year, the Federal government had to appropriate that money every year just to keep it operating, it was not a subsidy for the benefit of the consumers.
The final straw was when the head of that union gave himself a one month Christmas pay bonus. That prompted Pesident Calderon to disolve that utility, and have CFE serve the whole country. The people that complain about the CFE should count their blessings. They don’t know what inefficient electric service is.
The union head then said he didn’t want the bonus just for himself, but for every member of his union. News stories in the newspapers then began saying there were either 40,000 or 70,000 employees. There were probably 40,000 workers, and 70,000 people on the payroll. Who knows?
Anyway, it is no surprise to me that a Mexican citizen can buy a government job sometimes. Now, I think I know how many of the know-nothing clerks that work in government offices got their jobs.
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DavidHF

Feb 5, 2012, 2:04 PM

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Pumping gas at a Pemex station is not a Pemex job. The stations are all private franchises, not owned by Pemex.

cbviajero

Feb 5, 2012, 4:44 PM

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A PEMEX job is worth 100,000 pesos.

It's worth a great deal more than that when you factor in the bennies and the pension,IMO one of the worst run and most corrupt organizations in Mexico.
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Moisheh

Feb 6, 2012, 5:58 PM

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http://caleb.mx/...-en-una-gasolineria/

This is a link to a similar story. Imagine paying to work? Un Nuevo concepto! I suppose the gasolineros pay this fee as this gives them the right to cheat customers!

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joaquinx

Feb 6, 2012, 6:09 PM

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If I was being paid 60 pesos for a long day plus a few tips, don't stop at my pump for a top-off.

Moisheh

Feb 6, 2012, 6:16 PM

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Buying a job at the CFE might even be worth the cost. You get free electricity and do very little work for big bucks. But imagine paying for the right to work for 60 pesos a day. No better than slavery. The campesinos from Oaxaca that work the fields in Sonora are better off and that is slavery as well !

tashby

Feb 6, 2012, 6:36 PM

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Can someone confirm the article Moisheh linked is accurate? Do the guys pumping gas make virtually nothing outside of tips?

I need to re-think my behavior if that's the case at all gas stations. I tip when they do something/anything extra besides fill the tank, but as often as not, they don't even offer. Thanks.

Moisheh

Feb 6, 2012, 6:45 PM

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The original article was on the wire service Reforma . A respected source. Apparently this happens in the Mexico City area where the stations are mostly owned by one corporation. I know that in some areas these fellows are unionized and not only receive excellent pay they also get food coupons every week. A great job!

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tashby

Feb 6, 2012, 7:00 PM

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Thanks. I didn't read the article carefully.

YucaLandia

Feb 6, 2012, 7:45 PM

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The buying & selling of jobs shows how much a good job is worth. Back NOB, lots of talented 20-somethings work long hours as unpaid interns for 6 months to a year or more, with no promise of a job & no benefits - which translates to giving the company $20,000 - $30,000 of free labor - no strings - and with no assurance of any reward. It's tough out there.
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Marlene

Feb 10, 2012, 10:23 AM

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The "selling" of mentioned jobs at Pemex is stuff that happens in the big cities, and under the table via the Union. It's not in the employee handbook. Passing a job guarantee to your son or daughter, when you leave the company, is a different matter.

(This post was edited by Marlene on Feb 10, 2012, 10:26 AM)