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sanjuan

Jun 5, 2011, 8:18 AM

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Bringing more than one car into Mexico

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I have heard it can be done and a neighbour has just done it. One vehicle he imported temporarily about 5 years ago. The second car belonged to a friend who had brought it into Mexico. The friend died and before he died he had signed it over to my neighbour. So my neighbour drove to Texas in this second car and got the sticker removed. He had already arranged for South Dakota plates so he turned around with these new plates and imported his second vehicle into Mexico. He says there is no problem as the first car was on his old passport and the second car is on a renewed passport. He claims it isn't illegal but a loophole in the law.
If this is okay I'm sure it will be done a lot more often.

stevebrtx

Jun 5, 2011, 11:25 AM

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Wow, good news, now all I need is someone to sign over their car to me and die? I believe there are other ways to accomplish the same thing without having a friend assume room temperature.
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sanjuan

Jun 5, 2011, 12:11 PM

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Wow, good news, now all I need is someone to sign over their car to me and die? I believe there are other ways to accomplish the same thing without having a friend assume room temperature.

jrpierce

Jun 5, 2011, 12:43 PM

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Wow, good news, now all I need is someone to sign over their car to me and die? I believe there are other ways to accomplish the same thing without having a friend assume room temperature.

Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh,

Jim

sanjuan

Jun 5, 2011, 1:47 PM

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A silly post. Someone dying has nothing to do with it. The point is importation of a car is now tied to your passport number so when you renew your passport you can bring in a second car (and over time a third one) and they have no way of knowing that you already have a car in Mexico.
What other ways are there to accomplish the same-I don't know of any?

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YucaLandia

Jun 5, 2011, 2:50 PM

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sanjuan

Jun 5, 2011, 2:55 PM

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According to the facilitator who advised my neighbour it is not breaking the law to have more than one imported vehicle in the country as it is just a customs regulation-not a law.

stevebrtx

Jun 5, 2011, 3:00 PM

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Wow, you split that hair lengthwise about 3 ways. But, if you're convinced that's not against the law, then it's probably ok, just like me and the import stickers. I have a car in storage in TX, there are two reasons I've not brought it down, first; how many cars can I drive at one time? Second; it's a nice classic Mark VIII and the cobblestones would tear it up and I literally couldn't get it to my house over the topes. But, I know a guy who says if I change my mind he can make it happen - if I don't know how, does that make it illegal?
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YucaLandia

Jun 5, 2011, 3:05 PM

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I'm sure that the Mexicans who read Mexconnect will really appreciate and respect ex-pat gringos for publicly swapping advice and giving "How-To" instructions about how to circumvent and break Mexican laws. What's next, advice on how to cheat on your taxes?

I still see myself as a guest in this country, and once we've lost the respect of others - our hosts, it's tough to get it back (not to mention self-respect).

"...assume room temperature" Too Funny !
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sanjuan

Jun 5, 2011, 3:29 PM

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I'm not convinced that it isn't against the law to have more than one imported vehicle in the country at the same time-I'm just reporting what my neighbour did on the advice of his facilitaor/lawyer. I posted this as I know a lot of people are interested in bringing more than one vehicle into the country and contrary to what many people think it can be done.

stevebrtx

Jun 5, 2011, 6:20 PM

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Sure, I'm somewhat a "typical" NOB gringo, I have two cars, and the fact that one of them is sitting in a storage area deteriorating as we speak kills me, but if you really need more than one and you're married, get it transferred to your spouse, if you're not married - well, get married if it's that important, there are many hooks and crooks around most MXN regs if you dig them out.

As far as MXN's are concerned, they know all the tricks, I know several that drive US plated cars that are probably here illegally, or the import is in question, most don't have anything close to a current tag, so we're probably entertainment to them trying to figure out what they already know.
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YucaLandia

Jun 6, 2011, 8:51 AM

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Here's a link to Aduana's web posting some the law's requirements for No Inmigrantes (FM'3) and Inmigrante Rentistas (FM2 Rentista) temporarily importing a vehicle: http://www.aduanas.sat.gob.mx/...cion_Temporal_01.htm

See Item 4:
"4. Por el plazo que dure su calidad migratoria, incluyendo sus prórrogas, en los siguientes casos:
• Las de vehículos propiedad de extranjeros que se internen al país con calidad de inmigrantes rentistas o de no inmigrantes, excepto tratándose de refugiados y asilados políticos, siempre que se trate de un solo vehículo. Los vehículos que importen turistas y visitantes locales, incluso que no sean de su propiedad y se trate de un solo vehículo. . . ."

Slightly modified English translation from Google T:
4. For the term of their immigration status, including extensions, in the following cases:
• The vehicle owned by foreigners who enter the country as Inmigrantes Rentistas (FM2 Rentistas) or No Inmigrantes (FM3's), except in the case of refugees and asylum seekers, provided that it is a single vehicle. . . ."

This section of the law describes that for FM3 No Inmigrantes & FM2 Inmigrante Rentistas, that they are allowed a single vehicle, for the period of their approved immigrant visa and the extensions of these FM2's and FM3's. The law clearly does not allow the immigrant to have multiple vehicles under a single FM2 or FM3 or their annual extensions. Just because you and your friend found a gap in Mexico's tracking and enforcement of the law, does not make it legal or good.

In terms an American might understand: The US IRS does not routinely investigate nor track people's charitable contributions listed on income tax returns. Following your logic, Mexican immigrants living in the USA should all cheat on their taxes by listing lots of false non-existent charitable donations, because the IRS doesn't have routine mechanisms for detecting the cheating.

How would you and your friend react to Mexican Immigrants in the US illegally cheating the US Government out of taxes?

How would you and your friend react to Mexican Immigrants in the US posting "How To" advice on public websites, describing exactly how to illegally cheat the US Government out of taxes, and how to cheat with fake IDs, and how to steal people's Social Security numbers and steal American's identities without getting caught? Do you advocate web postings of where and how illegal immigrants should cross into the USA undetected, taking advantage of gaps in American security?

Don't most American citizens react strongly to reports of Mexican immigrants cheating, lying, and breaking laws?

Does anyone else catch a whiff of irony here?

We are guests here, and this sort of stuff makes the rest of us look... skeezy, sketchy, and sleazy. Yucatecan reactions to gringos have been slowly changing over the years, especially when they experience increasingly regular doses of ugly Americans.

We all have to swim in the same community pools, pools that a few people like to pee in.
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jrpierce

Jun 6, 2011, 9:37 AM

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Steve, I'm not sure the OP was advocating breaking the law. But I certainly agree wholeheartedly with all your points about expats here playing by the rules. Some of the posters on this thread commented about things Mexicans do and can get away with. Those living here know that petty corruption is rife in Mexico, and there are often many ways to get around the system. I prefer not to work those angles, as I'd like to see that corruption brought to an end--also because it can come back to bite you in unpleasant ways.

Several expats I know here who want two cars have one foreign-plated and the other Mexican plated. One reason among many that we only have a Mexican plated car is that we can then allow people to drive it when we do home and car exchanges--something we do fairly often.

Jim