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Hound Dog

Aug 19, 2010, 9:50 AM

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You Donīt Pull On Supermanīs Cape

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You donīt pull on Supermanīs cape,
You donīt spit into the wind,
You donīt pull the mask off that olī Lone Ranger
And you donīt mess around with....

My thanks to Jim Croce.

The August 17th edition of the New York Times has an article by its "Frugal Traveler" editor, Seth Kugel, entitled, "Picking a Spot, any (Undiscovered) Spot, in Mexico", in which Kugel recounts his adventure in rural Oaxaca State visiting the small rural Zapoteco village of San Juan Teitipac, (population +/- 2,500 souls) about an hour of less from Oaxaca City. He had been riding a bus from Tapachula, Chiapas on the border with Guatemala to Oaxaca City when he came upon the notion of picking, at random, a small, rural village with no known tourist attractions to visit just to get a feel for what travel adventures isolated, rarely visited small villages might offer the stranger popping into town for no apparent reason other than to quell a thirst for an understanding of rural village life in Southern Mexico. During the course of his bus journey from Tapachula to Oaxaca City, he had occasion to discuss this off-the-cuff idea with the bus driver who suggested he visit the bus driverīs home town of San Juan Teitipac outside of the city and located some kilometers down a rutted access road somewhat isolated from other communities located in more widely traveled locations.

This he did and I wonīt go into a recounting of his adventures in Teitipac except to say that he met a few locals who were welcoming (probably after being alerted by the bus driver), stayed at a local home for lodging during his abbreviated visit, ate some local meals of varying quality at rustic eateries and stumbled upon a 16th Century monastery behind the local church being restored by architects running the "Escuela Taller", a project largely funded by the Spanish government to teach young school dropouts trades relating to historic restoration of ancient structures.

That having been said, that article about the pleasures to be derived from random visits to isolated rural villages in Oaxaca State was not so much what caught my attention as one of the many e-mail responses to the article most of which, in the normal range of responses, praised the author for his insights in (and I summarize) this wonderful and romantic country of Mexico where serenely happy country folk live mostly in communal bliss tilling Godīs precious earth and raising livestock and that sort of thing which one comes to expect when reading e-mail chatter from the romantically inclined poorly informed.

The one e-mail response that caught my eye was from a Dr. Di Canio, a linguist at the Laboratoire Dynamique de Langage in Lyon, France who says he has been doing field work for about ten years in rural Oaxaca, especially in the Trique community who, while lauding the Frugal Traveler author for his willingness to travel off the beaten path to enlighten himself about life in rural, largely untouched, spots in Southern Mexico, warns the reader that, while the article is interesting, it is suggesting a reckless way to travel and insisting that in Oaxaca (and, I can assure the reader, in Chiapas where we live part of each year and other rural regions of Southern Mexico) randomly showing up uninvited in small, isolated towns is not generally a good idea unless you know someone locally who can vouch for you. Dr. Di Canio states that the stranger following such an ill-advised itinerary may very well be told by locals to leave or may even be physically threatened with harm. Dr. Di Canio concedes that the stranger presuming to show up unannounced and without any local introduction may very well be welcomed with open arms but, for every welcoming village there are other villages which he describes as "vehemently xenophobic" where locals will view stangers showing up uninvited suspiciously and with often open hostility.

We have spent almost ten years retired in Mexico and four of those years we have spent winters in San Cristóbal de Las Casas while traveling extensively in that region from Oaxaca State to the Yucatan Peninsula and our few years there have taught us that the traveler must at all times be respectful of local customs which may very well include the popular belief among locals, learned over the past four plus centuries, that mysterious stangers with imperceptible motives bearing gifts and/or glad tidings are sometimes of a malevolent nature and may undiscernably mean them harm after conclusion of first greetings. These folks learned this the hard way over the centuries. Visit them with a prudent regard for their customs you will not understand when you first arrive.

The entire article I site and the numerous e-mail responses to it may still be archived at the New York Times web site. I recommend the reader familiarize him/herself with the article and e-mail responses before visiting rural Southern Mexico.



raferguson


Aug 19, 2010, 11:24 AM

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Re: [Hound Dog] You Donīt Pull On Supermanīs Cape

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I have always thought that it was best to solicit local advice before getting off the beaten track in Chiapas, although I did not have Oaxaca on the same level of concern. I think that other rural areas of Southern Mexico might be similar, I would be concerned about Guerrero or Michoacan as well.

That said, the author did solicit local advice before he chose a village, so I would suggest that his approach was not reckless. The only thing that he apparently did not do is to get more than one opinion on the village.



Of course, other people might do the same thing without getting local information, and they could end up in trouble. I have read of Mexicans from the big city having problems in remote rural areas as well.


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I knew that it would take a doctoral dissertation to understand fully everything that had been going on around me.

And that is one of the challenges and hazards in traveling in an areas with a culture very foreign to your own. The biggest problem might be getting your head around the overall worldview of the people. Understanding the history of evangelization is nice, but that does not put you into their worldview.

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Hound Dog

Aug 19, 2010, 4:51 PM

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Of course, other people might do the same thing without getting local information, and they could end up in trouble. I have read of Mexicans from the big city having problems in remote rural areas as well.

Funny you mention that, Richard. I remember a few years ago when a mestizo friend of ours from Ajijic whose family goes back several generations at Lake Chapala accompanied us on a visit to the Zapatista stronghold of San Larrainzar, Chiapas some 30 kilometers or so up the mountain from San Cristóbal and deep into indigenous controlled territory where we visited the town church and principal plaza and, then, on our way back to San Cristóbal, stopped at an artisanīs home and workshop in town to look over and, pčrhaps, buy some of her wares. One must envision my wife and I who could never be mistaken for anything other than foreign whites of European extraction and our mestizo friend who has dark olive skin and features suggesting to the unitiated that she could easily be a native of Mexico of mestizo heritage. As we shopped her offerings the artisan inquired, "What are you people doing here. We donīt like gringos in Larrainzar." Our mestizo friend was taken aback and visibly offended by having been called a gringa by this local indigenous artisan and she retorted, "Who the hell are you calling a gringa?" To which, the artisan replied in her native tzotzil, something undiscernable but clearly intended as a disrespectful observation. Of course, gringos or not, we were more than welcome to purchase anything that met our fancy as long as we took whatever that might be and hightailed it back to San Cristóbal forthwith.

Coincidentally, a Zapotec friend of ours from Teotitlan del Valle, Oaxaca just a few kilometers up the road from the village the correspondent from the New York Times was visiting in Oaxaca State, was visiting us at our home in Ajijic this afternoon and we asked her if she knew the village in question to which she responded that, yes she knew the town and it was a more or less friendly Zapateco town keeping with the Zapateco tradition of extending hospitality to strangers within reason. Her comment was that the people inhabiting the Trique areas in which the linguist from Lyon had been working for so many years, were far more suspicious of strangers and that she would proceed with caution herself if visiting some of those villages unknown and uninvited. That, then, supports the notion that, if one is unfamliar with rural Oaxaca or other parts of Southern Mexico, it is best to intrude upon isolated villages with caution and the utmost respect for local customs. Of course, the same could be said of backwoods timber harvesting/marijuana growing redneck towns in the Mendocino outback in Northern California where Dawg lived out his misspent youth.

As Jim Croce wrote in that song the lyrics to which I quoted in my initial post starting this thread, "Donīt be messinī with folks you donīt know."


(This post was edited by Hound Dog on Aug 19, 2010, 4:55 PM)


cbviajero

Aug 23, 2010, 9:06 AM

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i also read that article and agree with the linguist.in 2002 i was renovating a fixerupper in carmel,ca i needed to hire some help so i went to nearby seaside where i ended up hiring a guy full time for the duration about 5 months we became good friends he is from san pablo huixtepec,oaxaca there are alot of mexicans in seaside and almost all of them are from this small town in oaxaca,a couple of years later i was traveling in oaxaca and decided to call my friend abdias back in seaside,he insisted i visit san pablo and stay with his family,i did and had a great time but i wouldnt feel comfortable just wandering into some little rural town with the intention of staying a few days without knowing someone there.
 
 
 
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