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Hound Dog

Jun 20, 2009, 3:36 AM

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Why Highland Southern Mexico is Comparable to Paradise

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I started discussing this on the General Forum but the moderator there locked the discussion because it offended her. That is OK as that is her prerogative but I will attempt to revive a since moribund discussion here if I am not precluded from so doing by WEB Management

The discussion had to do with comparative costs of living in different places and since I live in Mexico in both Jalisco and Chiapas and have extensive family ties in both France and Alabama and spent years traveling about the Third World, I felt that I had something to contribute to this discourse no matter how lame and then I and others so inclined were sprayed with bug retardant and you guess who is vulnerable here: the sprayer or the sprayee. I fear cockroaches because they may contaminate my pleasant and all encompassing environment as is the case these day in the nascent dictatorship in Iran.Cockroaches fear me because I have the ability to turn on the light and expose their filth.

Now, I will tell you this, if this posting remains on board then I will expand upon my ideas. Those ideas:

° This is a wonderful place to retire for a number of reasons the least of which is the obnoxious foreign contingent of boneheads intent on turniing Mexico into Texas. I will compare living here with living in Europe. If you do not wish to hear this then do no read my posts.

° Those who excise discourse simply because they have the authorirty to cut off dialogue without explicit rational purpose are weak and irrational by definition.

NEXT:

I will astonish you with the cost of living in Europe and make you thankful you live on Mexico.
Other Stuff you will enjoy immensely.


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TlxcalaClaudia

Jun 20, 2009, 8:14 AM

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I was expecting a little more. Did you cut out part of this? Or waiting to see if someone wants to hear more? I do.


TlxcalaClaudia

Jun 20, 2009, 8:15 AM

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Do you know anything about Campeche in particular? Hi to Brigette.


Hound Dog

Jun 20, 2009, 8:26 AM

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OK, that last posting sounded a bit harsh and I would modify my comment if I could but I cannot.

The prices and taxes and costs of purchasing a home here in Paris are astonishing and any of you readers out there still contemplating whether to retire to Europe or Mexico should take my remarks into account. I say this as I just returned from a newstand where I paid the equivalent of Five U.S. Dollars for a copy of the Financial Times of London. The pricing stories are endless. On the same outing I paid the equivalent of Fifty Dollars for takeout tagine, a North Africa peasant stew, for four people to eat at home.

More later. Gotta go.


Rolly


Jun 20, 2009, 9:01 AM

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I, too, am interested in learning more.

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prmjcm


Jun 20, 2009, 10:42 AM

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Dawg I am considering moving to campeche but would love to hear more about the highlands of southern Mexico.

Pat


Jim in Cancun / Moderator

Jun 20, 2009, 2:39 PM

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"OK, that last posting sounded a bit harsh and I would modify my comment if I could but I cannot."

Is the edit function not working again? Darn. I will have to report it to the IT people.


Hound Dog

Jun 21, 2009, 3:52 AM

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Claudia writes:

I was expecting a little more. Did you cut out part of this? Or waiting to see if someone wants to hear more? I do.

Thank you for a back handed complimeny TC. We must leave Paris for a return flight to Lakeside which has become difficult and complex because of fliight cancellations to Mexico from the dreaded United States and nastiness in that paranoid country having to do with homeland security. That is the last time we fly through that fearful realm en route to anywhere.


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DavidMcL


Jun 21, 2009, 12:11 PM

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A sequence of postings deleted as they were better managed as personal ripostes using the PM function.

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Hound Dog

Jun 22, 2009, 4:56 AM

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Dawg I am considering moving to campeche but would love to hear more about the highlands of southern Mexico.

Pat


Pat:

Both you and Claudia asked about Campeche and I must admit to being mostly ignorant about this corner of the peninisula. I do know this. Campeche City is an architectural dream. A compact historic centro is stunningly beautiful architecturally but as boring as a speech by Fidel Castro with mediocre restaurants and fortifications useless since Porfirio Diaz was president. The beaches the town fronts are ugly and without merit either at which to gaze or in which to swim. The town is Betty Davis in Goodbye Sweet Charlotte - a beautiful but anachronistic finely dressed up confection with no place to go. You cannot even get a decent cup of coffee there and certainly not a memorable meal. A mind swamp. A must see but probably not a place to linger for too long. If one wishes to hang around the Yucatan, I can think of more fascinating places from Merida to Port Morelos to Bacalar.


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Hound Dog

Jun 25, 2009, 7:22 AM

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We must leave Paris for a return flight to Lakeside which has become difficult and complex because of fliight cancellations to Mexico from the dreaded United States and nastiness in that paranoid country having to do with homeland security. That is the last time we fly through that fearful realm en route to anywhere.

We just got back to Lake Chapala from France via Dallas and Mexico City and I will review my experiences regarding our flight under the heading "Dawg Travels the Gulag" in the travel forum, This posting will have to do with the nightmare of flying anywhere in the world transiting through the United States and some of you planning such a journey may benefit from reading about our terrible experiences by planning your trip, if possible, avoiding transiting through the paranoid and, in the end, ineffective (if somewhat comical in retrospect) ineptly bureaucratic and bumbling U.S. Homeland Security apparatus awaiting your arrival as a transit passenger with relish.

What has this to do with living in Mexico? If you wish to visit much of the world outside Mexican borders, you may be inclined to fly throgh some such place as Dallas or Chicago to facilitate your trip, Read about our experiences if they may help you decide if it is worth so doing assuming there is an alternative as we had flying to Paris.

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Jim in Cancun / Moderator

Jun 27, 2009, 11:39 AM

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While the post 911 "in-transit" rules do indeed suck for people who do not have a visa, and while it limits how I may travel back and forth to Europe, I travel to and through the U.S. many times each year and do not have problems. But then I don't look for what's wrong either. I have learned that looking for what's wrong with other people, places and things is not my job since I don't get paid for it and it usually costs me more than finding it is worth.

I have enough trouble finding what is wrong with me to keep me more than busy enough.

"When I focus on what's good, I have a good day and when I focus on what's bad I have a bad day." I prefer good days.


Hound Dog

Jun 27, 2009, 2:12 PM

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Jim in Cancun writes:

While the post 911 "in-transit" rules do indeed suck for people who do not have a visa, and while it limits how I may travel back and forth to Europe, I travel to and through the U.S. many times each year and do not have problems.

I presume, Jim in Cancun. that you are inferring that you are not a U.S. citizen but "...have no problems," with in-transit visa difficulties normal non-citizens experience routinely when transiting by air thorugh the U.S. Gulag. If, on the other hand, you are a U.S. citizen then you are at best naive about the problems experienced by non-citizens transiting through U.S. airports and perhaps should not pontificate upon issues with which you are not familiar. My wife is a citizen of France, a non-visa country, and her experiences transiting through the jack-booted confines of U.S. airports with security administered by the Homeland Security goons are reminiscent of third world police states. If you have experience as a non-citizen of the U.S. and wish to contradict my comments, have at it.

I still have not posted the horror stories under the travel forum that we experienced traveling through the U´S. en-route from Guadalajara to France but that is coming shortly. All I can say now is that we will not do that again - ever.


Jim in Cancun / Moderator

Jun 27, 2009, 3:42 PM

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1.- I am a U.S. citizen.

2.- I mentioned that the in transit situation sucks for people that don't have visas.

3.- Are you capable of writing without insulting or attacking a person, place or thing?

4.- What a godawful world you live in.

5.- And as for pontificating......I mean, really! "El burro hablando de orejas".

6.- And I am sure we are all waiting anxiously for your horror stories.


prmjcm


Jun 28, 2009, 3:57 PM

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Jim the Dawg has his own style, sometimes we must find the humor in what other people say and not take it to heart, I think The Dawg lives in the same world we all do just with a different slant to it.


Pat Moore in San Pancho GTO


Jim in Cancun / Moderator

Jun 28, 2009, 4:56 PM

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Pat: Jim the Dawg has his own style,

Jim: Thanks for your comments. I am sure Dawg appreciates someone sticking up for him. I have no problem style. It is the lack of it and the substitution of offensive rhetoric in its place that I have a problem with.

Pat: "...sometimes we must find the humor in what other people say and not take it to heart,

Jim: By "we" can I assume that you mean me? I find humour in a lot of what a lot of other people say but it is my "style" to not find humour in people who seek to raise themselves up at the expense of others. And I believe I have the right to express my opinions and my style here as well.

Pat: "I think The Dawg lives in the same world we all do just with a different slant to it."

Jim: It is not the world that has the slant to it. "All looks yellow to a jaundiced eye." Pope


Maritsa


Aug 17, 2009, 5:07 PM

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I am new at this and have never been to Europe. My Mexico adventure was my first time out of the US. (Except for Niagara Falls!) I love Chiapas and would like to return, possibly to live. I am tired of taxes and not being able to "get ahead". I moved to the OBX of NC (from NJ) 6 years ago because it was beautiful, laid back and friendly. But year after year, it slowly becomes NJ all over again. I know this happens everywhere, but I think it is a shame. People come down here for vacation and are rude and arrogant. They come to relax and drive like they are in NJ. We used to be able to drive on the beach and fish freely. Now there are people trying to prohibit driving on the beach and we have to buy fishing licenses. (more revenue). If you park in the wrong place you are towed away and fined. It just goes on and on. I guess this happens whenever people catch on to a good thing. But then they want to turn it into the place that they left.

When Obama was elected president, I thought "What a milestone in American history - the first black pesident. I remember the 60's and what it was like just walking down the street with someone of a different race. I watched the inauguration with hope. Seven months later, I am really concerned that soon we will not recognize the USA. I, like many poor people, sometimes have a resentment against people with money. But I have always paid my way and worked hard for what I had and was proud of that. If Obama taxes the rich excessively, who will give people jobs? When everyone is poor, who will pay then? What will the incentive be to work and succeed? When people can't afford to go to the gym, have their hair and nails done, go out to restaurants, buy homes more businesses will collapse. I'm not very smart about politics, but my point is, that I just want to live the rest of my life in peace.

If we are all going to end up sitting around the campfire roasting hot dogs for dinner, I'd rather do it in Chiapas!!
Many Americans seem to be wanting the government to do everything for them. When Hurrican Stan hit in 2005 I don't think the people stood around waiting for the equivalent of FEMA to bring their trailer, food and debit cards. They got out the shovels and started digging, helping each other. I may be naive, but I am not afraid to work. And I could do without a lot of "stuff".

I hope I am not too out of line with these comments. And Mexico surely has its own problems as well as corruption. I would like to hear your thoughts and advice on this. Thank you, Maritsa
 
 
 
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