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Casa

Oct 19, 2010, 11:14 AM

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Missing Marin County native found slain in Oaxaca

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Lane Gilbert, a 46-year-old real estate developer from Marin County Calif who had been living in San Andres Huayapam, north of Oaxaca, was last seen leaving his home Aug. 27. His body was found Friday in a home that he owned in the village of San Bartolo Coyotepec south of Oaxaca, said Jenny Jedeikin, who has been in contact with Gilbert's mother, Jerie Gilbert of Fairfax.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/...RR.DTL#ixzz12pUlCQx6



Hound Dog

Oct 19, 2010, 2:13 PM

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Just curious, Casa:

Many die in Oaxaca State every day and their causes of death are endless no matter their origin. What is special about this death that warrants note?


geri

Oct 19, 2010, 2:44 PM

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It warrants note to me because this is the first expat murder in the 13 years I have lived in Oaxaca City.

SF Chronical store here:

http://www.sfgate.com/...10/18/BA8U1FU9RR.DTL


(This post was edited by Rolly on Oct 19, 2010, 4:14 PM)


geri

Oct 19, 2010, 3:01 PM

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OOOPS. I see that Casa had posted the article. I think this news is of more note than many of the rantings that get posted to this forum. So there!!! This is, after all, primarily an expat forum or a "wannabe expat" forum, no?


chinagringo


Oct 19, 2010, 4:23 PM

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Prevailing Gringo wisdom: "Don't have to worry if one isn't involved in the drug business.........."

So what conclusion can be drawn?
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



ken_in_dfw

Oct 19, 2010, 6:33 PM

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Well, there are plenty of other motives to get oneself 86'ed. No need to consort with the local hallucinogenic distributors. You can tick somebody off on a business deal, mess around with somebody else's main squeeze, or just be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I'm really sorry to read about this. But I'm also amazed at what 13 years without an expat murder says about an area that is teeming with expats. No way the same statement could be made about my hometown of Dallas. Heck, I doubt we've gone 13 weeks without an expat of some sort another getting bumped off around here.


Hound Dog

Oct 20, 2010, 12:33 PM

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It warrants note to me because this is the first expat murder in the 13 years I have lived in Oaxaca City.


Really, geri? Perhaps you should read the local Oaxaca papers with more care. Without even doing any research at all I can remember the case of Brad Will, the New York leftist journalist, who was murdered in Oaxaca in October, 2006 by parties as yet finally identified and Iīll bet I can come up with many more incidents with only a modicum of effort. Tell me something else, geri, how many expats live and own homes in San Andres Huayapam and/or San Bartolo Coyotepec and invite strangers into their homes where they are subseqently chopped to death with a machete and then had their car stolen by an assailant later found seriously bruised and bitten evidencing, according to local cops, a violent struggle. While you are at it geri, why donīt you tell me why the death of a foreigner by murder is more important than the countless deaths of locals in a violent state noted for its murder and domestic violence rate.

I live in Chiapas and can tell you the murder rate among the indigenous, whether within the family or among neighbors or inhabitants of neighboring villages, defies belief but these incidents are hardly ever reported in the local media and almost never appear in the national press. Itīs time to stop fretting over the occasional murders of foreigners interspersed among the locals in Southern Mexico, some of whom perhaps stuck their noses where unwelcome, and stop acting as if foreigners somehow warrant special privileges.

In San Cristóbal de Las Casas and often unwelcoming environs, I respect my fellow Chiapanecos and try to act in accordance with local customs. If, somehow, I inadvertently cross the line in my interrelationships there and am harmed or even murdered, I donīt expect to make the U.S. news where reporters have no idea what they are talking about. I have chosen to live where I live and I take my chances without expecting to be treated as if I were above ordinary citizens.


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Vichil

Oct 23, 2010, 11:58 AM

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Another conclusion? Maybe not to fool with the help is another good advice.
http://www.noticiasnet.mx/...-seducido-extranjero


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Hound Dog

Oct 23, 2010, 12:30 PM

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Could it be that some local campesinoīs life is ruined because he became enslaved in a culture he could not possibly understand, maybe taken a life of a person whose values he could never comprehend and now must pay by forfeiiting his freedom forever after retaliating against someone he thought attacked him; someone far more sophisticated than he could ever be and where is the justice in that?

Americans come down here and take advantage of unsophisticated country folk and ruin lives for the sake of transient pleasure. It shames me to be a part of this unwholesome charade.


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chinagringo


Oct 24, 2010, 3:59 PM

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With all the SHAME that you constantly seem to feel, it must certainly be difficult to get out of bed and show one's face in the neighborhood. Maybe I suggest a brown paper bag?
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Hound Dog

Oct 25, 2010, 2:17 PM

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With all the SHAME that you constantly seem to feel, it must certainly be difficult to get out of bed and show one's face in the neighborhood. Maybe I suggest a brown paper bag?
Regards,


Now, now, Neil:

Since you live in Albuquerque, the civic equivalent of a massive brown paper bag, I donīt know if you are kidding or not but, just in case you are serious; Dawg, who had the good fortune to live in racially segregated and shameless Alabama during my formative years and then moved to Oakland, where as a banker, I banked as diverse a clientele as Huey Newton (a very modest and unassuming person if I must say so), the western regional president of the ACLU and a whole squadron of fascist Oakland cops who considered entertainment the busting of African American heads in West Oaklandīs Acorn projects and followed that by banking Mendocino County pot growers and decadent Napa Valley wine growers, and then followed that by moving to violent and poverty stricken Chiapas, I have no shame but I do have difficulty getting out of bed although Iīm surprised you knew about that. Have we met in an indiscrete alcohol induced haze? My doctor took me off that stuff so I hope you enjoyed it then since it ainīt no more.

By the way; down in South Alabama, the local wisdom is, "Nothing shouts whiskey louder than a brown paper bag." Very clever for a New Mexican.


chinagringo


Oct 25, 2010, 5:15 PM

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OH Boy - DAWG:

"just in case you are serious; Dawg, who had the good fortune to live in racially segregated and shameless Alabama during my formative years and then moved to Oakland, where as a banker, I banked as diverse a clientele as Huey Newton (a very modest and unassuming person if I must say so), the western regional president of the ACLU and a whole squadron of fascist Oakland cops who considered entertainment the busting of African American heads in West Oaklandīs Acorn projects and followed that by banking Mendocino County pot growers and decadent Napa Valley wine growers, and then followed that by moving to violent and poverty stricken Chiapas"

I have been following the Hound Dog persona and some of your previous personas for years and I am ashamed to admit that I had never picked up on all of these personal details about yourself. Do you have these and other intimate details on a FACEBOOK page?
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Hound Dog

Oct 28, 2010, 9:53 AM

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I have been following the Hound Dog persona and some of your previous personas for years and I am ashamed to admit that I had never picked up on all of these personal details about yourself. Do you have these and other intimate details on a FACEBOOK page?

I love you too Neil but, unfortunately, I am committed to a female-type person. Maybe in the next life we can get together. Kisses! What is FACEBOOK?
 
 
 
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