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Jimbo

Aug 4, 2010, 10:38 AM

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My wife and I are planning to go to Chiapas this December for a couple of weeks. We'll spend some time in Tuxtla and Palenque, but we also want to spend a few days in San Cristobal. Can anyone recommend a decent, moderately-priced hotel? Another poster, replying to a question about the weather there, suggested one might want to find a hotel room with a fireplace or some form of heating - so I guess we'd want a hotel with that too.
Also, if there are "must sees" for people going there for the first time as tourists, I'd appreciate that too.



Saludos:
Jim Bentein



Hound Dog

Aug 4, 2010, 12:10 PM

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How much do you want to spend?

In Tuxtla you can find lots of nice modern hotels with air conditioned. In Chiapa de Corzo I like to stay at La Ceiba in a lower room, the upstairs rooms are hot and the AC is not great.


Jimbo

Aug 4, 2010, 12:20 PM

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Hola Hound Dog: Appreciate the help. We're budget travelers - not hippies, but budget travelers. From what I've been able to determine on the net, hotels in San Cristobal are very reasonably priced, so I don't think we'll have a problen there. But I'd appreciate a couple of recommendations. I doubt we'll need air. We live in Mazatlan for most of the year, so we have a pretty good tolerance for heat. And, we're going there in December, so I doubt it will be too hot for us in Tuxtla or near the ruins. We'd be comfortable with $50-$60 or so a night (U.S.), but if we can do better than that, great.



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Jim Bentein


Hound Dog

Aug 4, 2010, 3:02 PM

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I do not know about prices any more since we do not stay any longer in hotels but I remember the following hotels having either heat or fireplaces; La Casa Vieja, D´Monica, Hotel Rincon de Arco, Na Balom.
The nicest places are La Casa Flores, Parador San Juan de Dios but there are many nice inexpensive hotels as well.

Prices usually go up in December in San Cristobal.

Palenque can be uncomfortably hot even in December and ditto for Tuxtla. Tuxtla can have some nice windy and cool days but I never count on them when I reserve a room there.

Last year I stayed several day in Chiapa de Corzo for the fiesta in January and I could not sleep because of the heat.

Palenque the town has lots of inexpensive hotel, the hotel Zone is called La Cañada (nice modern hotel with AC) and the entrance is on the Plaza with the statue of Pakal or some other Mayan King,
The Chan Kah is a resort type hotel in the jungle with a wonderful pool and the Panchan is a hippy type area near the ruins where you can stay as low as 70 pesos per person. No hot water at that price but considering the heat the cold water feels good.

Vichil


Jimbo

Aug 4, 2010, 3:31 PM

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Thank you very much for that information. Very helpful.


Saludos


Hound Dog

Aug 5, 2010, 8:12 AM

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My wife and I are planning to go to Chiapas this December for a couple of weeks. We'll spend some time in Tuxtla and Palenque, but we also want to spend a few days in San Cristobal. Can anyone recommend a decent, moderately-priced hotel? Another poster, replying to a question about the weather there, suggested one might want to find a hotel room with a fireplace or some form of heating - so I guess we'd want a hotel with that too.
Also, if there are "must sees" for people going there for the first time as tourists, I'd appreciate that too.


Well, Jimbo; that was my wife Vichil answering under the Dawg´s name so I can´t take any credit for her comments.

The only thing I will say about hotels in San Cristóbal is that it might be sunny and fresh or cloudy and cold in December but for sure it will be cold at night. Be sure you get a heated rood whether with a fireplace or other heat source. You´d be surprised how many hotel rooms (and private homes) are not heated there at 7,000 feet.

As for "must sees", I recommend that you stay in the historic center in San Cristóbal and plan on walking or taking the cheap, unmetered taxis ($20 Pesos per ride) anywhere you wish to go in town. The historic center is relatively compact with extraordinary architectural gems and the main things to see lie within walking distance of the plaza principal along mainly pedestrian-only thoroughfares. Outside of the historic center, San Cristóbal is not particularly interesting and the hillsides surrounding the city are the homes to many desperately poor disenfranchised indigenous people expelled from their traditional home villages in the surrounding mountains for complex political/religious reasons. You do not wish to stroll in those places. The good news is that the historic center and most of the city are on relatively flat terrain so this is a stroller´s town if there ever was one. In San Cristóbal, "must sees", all within walking distance if you like to walk, include the principal plaza and steets emerging from it in various directions. The city maintains tourist information centers in the plaza and city hall on the plaza to help you decide where to walk. Other important things to see:
* Don´t miss the Santo Domingo ex-Convent and the indigenous vendors in the surrounding park plus the adjacent massive and always highly entertaining municipal and indigenous market where you can just observe or buy yourself a chicken , turkey or pig to take back to your hotel room to slaughter for dinner. This indigenous market is just a couple of blocks from our home in the fascinating El Cerrillo Barrio and when we are there seasonally, we always shop for fruits and vegetables at the indigenous market with its endless variety of seasonal produce largely freshly harvested in nearby mountainside fincas by the colorfully clad indigenous vendors who trek down from the mountains daily to sell their produce, artisanal products, flowers, herbs and livestock. A great place to spend a morning from about 9:00AM to noon.
* If you are there on a saturday night, look for red lanterns on certain homes all over town advertising homemade tamales for sale by the women and children of the homes. Ask locals for the place they like the best as there are many choices. Saturday night is tamal feast night and the local specialties include tamales made with mole or azafran wrapped in banana leaves , "bola" wrapped in corn husks and so forth. These are all served to go and you can take your choice of tamales back to your hotel room to enjoy with an ice cold beer available in countless local tiendas.
* Don´t miss visiting Na Balom, the hotel, dining room and museum that is the ex-home of Franz and Gertrude Blum. This is a justly famous place and you can stay there in the hotel although it is a bit expensive for what you get. It is fun to have dinner there once at the communal dining table as you may meet some very interesting people including, perhaps, some Lacandon tribesmen from the Chiapas jungles along and near the border of Guatemala. The food can be uneven - sometimes quite good, sometimes not so good - but if you are lucky you´ll meet others who might make the experience worthwhile.
* Visit the Maya visitor´s center and museum and the grounds surrounding it to see plants and herbs used for traditional Maya medicinal purposes growing in the museum´s gardens. A fascinating place where you´ll discover many remedies for intestinal and respiratory ailments that, apparently, used to kill the Maya in droves.

ROAD TRIPS FROM SAN CRISTÓBAL:
* Drive (if you can) to Palenque stopping at Ocosingo to visit the spectacular Maya ruins at Toniná which was once a principal Maya city doing extensive trade when not at war with Palenque. Toniná is definitely worth the short detour off of the main highway from San Cristóbal to Palenque and I recommend this as an absolute "must see". Also worth a short detour are several sights along the way to Palenque including, if you have limited time, a sort diversion to Agua Azul although you should exercise caution about eating at the eateries set up there by the local ejido folks or you may contract Chiapas Revenge.
* Drive to the Lagos de Montebello National Park visiting the Chincultik ruins and Spanish art museum and hacienda/hotel at Santa Maria along the way and, if you have the time, drive on along the excellent frontier highway to the Reserva Monte Azul, Yaxchilan and Bonampak. This is largely a wilderness journey so if you plan to do it let me know as there are some guidelines you should follow.
* Visits to Chiapa de Corzo and Tuxtla Gutierrez have already been discussed by my darlin wife so I won´t go there except to say Chiapa de Corzo and the adjacent Rio de Grijalva are very much worth a visit. I would skip the boat trips down the river to the Cañon de Sumidero if I were you since it can be a yawner.

Enough for now. Have a nice trip.


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Jimbo

Aug 5, 2010, 8:52 AM

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You and your esposa have been very kind and helpful. We probably won't rent a car when we're there, so we will be looking for tour outfits that go to Palenque and make some of the stops you mentioned. If you do have a recommendation in that area, it would be appreciated. However, I'm sure there are several options.
Out of curiosity, how has the tourism business in that area been doing the last couple of years, given the lousy U.S. economy and the problems Mexico has had with its drug wars? We live in Mazatlan and the economy here, about 40-50% reliant on tourism, has been hammered.



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Jim Bentein


Vichil

Aug 5, 2010, 10:08 AM

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I do not recommend going to Palenque on a tour from San Cristobal but rather take a bus or combi to Palenque stay there a day or two and take a tour from there or take a combi to the ruins and take a guide once there. There are many day trip (long day) to Bonampak and Yakxilan from Palenque.
The tours leaving San Cristobal leave very early for Palenque and come back very late, it is a very long day and too rushed in my opinion.
You can go to Agua Azul from Palenque via combi as well.

Ocosingo is 2 hours from San Cristobal and 3 hours from Palenque . On a tour to Palenque the trip alone in the van is 10 hours whay too long for my taste.

You should try to see Tonina near Ocosingo on your way to Palenque. Leave on an early bus leave your luggage at the bus station, take a combi to Las Ruinas at the back of the women´s market. It is called that way as it was started to help out the woman whose husband had been killed in 94. It is next to the regular market.
The Museum at the ruins in Tonina is worth a visit.

There are lots of tour companies going to the Lake Montebellos but again it is a very long trip , I would rent a car for that tour, it gives you the flexibility to stop in Teopisca, Amatenango , Comitan The Parador Santa Maria and Chinkultic. The tours stop at some ruins that are not very interesting and usually skip Chinkultic and Comitan and are on a tight schedule while at the lakes. The Lakes can be magical, there is a cloud forest on the way to Guatemala that is wonderful and with a car you can stop whenever you feel like it.
The Lakes are 3 hours from San Cristobal, again a long trip in one day.

To visit any near by Indian villages (Zinacantan, Chamula, Tenejapa, San Andres Larrainzar and so on)take a combi at the Municipal Mercado known as the chivit. To go to Tuxtla, Chiapa de Corzo, Comitan, Ocosingo and far away highland villages go with a combi around the Cristobal Colon bus station. Each village has its own costume so it is easy to figure out where the combis are going by the clothes of the customers.

The tourism in San Cristobal is driven by the Europeans and the Mexicans with some tourism from Central America. The US and Canadian tours are not a major factor. The majority of US tourists are young, backpacker types looking for the 80 pesos hotels so again not a major factor. Mexican swarm the town in December and January. Many people from DF, Vera Cruz and Yucatan. Some tours doing the Oaxaca San Cristobal, Palenque Cancun circuit from Europe and some Americans . Many Tuxtla people have houses there too and many do come to San Cristobal for the holidays.
The tourism business was hammered when Oaxaca had troubles. Chiapas is a different animal from the rest of the country . Expect loads of people in December in San Cristobal.
All cabs in Sn Cristobal are 20 pesos. They have various zones in Tuxtla so the price varies. The cab ride from the airport to San Cristobal is between 500 and 600 pesos one way the bus and or combi from Tuxtla is 40 pesos per person. The cab from the airport to a combi stop is about 100 pesos. This may have changed but it is what it was last May.
Chiapa de COrzo is adjacent to Tuxtla and much more charming than Tuxtla to stay at night.
The restaurant with the dancing is called Las Pichanchas on the main drag downtown.
There are Cuban type coffee places in town and loads of plain but good restaurants in Tuxtla. You can get good lamb bbQ accross from Plaza Crystal, lots of bbq rabbit and many different types of antojitos that are delicious.
The people from Tuxla are called los Cunejos by the Coletos (San Cristobal inhabitants) as Tuxtla means the place of the rabbits. The Coletos will tell you the Cunejos are fat because they eat all day long, and you can see it on the streets of Tuxtla. Hell the food is delicious.
If you want to enter a time warp have breakfast at the Flamingo.
San Cristobal is known as Jovel by the indigenous. When the combis scream ta Jovel they mean" to San Cristobal".


Jimbo

Aug 5, 2010, 10:19 AM

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Great info, thanks. I've spent some time on the net looking at hotels there. Pasada Media Luna, which you didn't recommend, looks interesting. Lots of good reviews on-line and the price is right. But we certainly haven't booked yet.


Vichil

Aug 5, 2010, 10:33 AM

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There are hundred of inexpensive and decent hotels in San Cristobal so the choice is difficult. The Posada Media Luna is on a quiet street/plaza next to ex Convento del Carmen which has been converted in La Casa de la Cultura. It has a central location, I do not remember seeing chimneys on that building so if you want heat you may want to call them and ask about it. I did not ever stay there as I like the center or El Cerrillo district better but it has a nice quiet location.


Jimbo

Aug 5, 2010, 10:49 AM

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Thanx again. I've emailed them to see if they have foreplaces or heat.
 
 
 
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