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twelveoaks

Oct 26, 2011, 9:30 AM

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need advice on renting short term in Ajijic

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My wife and I are in the process of selling our home in California and plan to move to Ajijic. We are trying to keep the logistics as simple as possible so we plan to rent for three months or so while searching for a home in Ajijic. We would need a house that would allow two twelve year old very well behaved English setters and would need to be furnished as we plan to sell our furniture here and buy new there. Can anyone advise as to how to go about finding a rental in Ajijic that would meet our needs ? Also, any other advice about making the move as far as logistics would really be appreciated !



tashby

Oct 26, 2011, 10:17 AM

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Re: [twelveoaks] need advice on renting short term in Ajijic

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Depends upon the time of year you arrive. If you arrive during low season, basically April to November, there are tons of furnished rentals available short term. We were lucky in that we arrived in April, and we tried one place for a week, then another for a couple weeks, then one for a month, etc. It's a great way to audition different neighborhoods/areas. The dogs won't be a problem.

If you arrive during the middle of winter, that is much more difficult to do. There are several rental agencies in town with websites (Laguna, Ajijic Rentals, Roma, and others.)


cookj5

Oct 26, 2011, 1:50 PM

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Re: [twelveoaks] need advice on renting short term in Ajijic

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You'll no doubt hear this from others as well as me: rent for longer than 3 months if you are seriously thinking of buying. The usual suggestion is 1 year and I would suggest possibly 2 years. Why? The housing market down here is very different than anything you are used to north-of-the-border.

1) There is no mortgage system that you would recognize. Maybe, just maybe, you can find an owner where you can plunk down 50% up front and the balance over 5 years. The vast majority of the time, people pay the full amount, up front. Question: can you afford to tie up $150k - 300k of your net worth for an unlimited period of time?

2) There are no disclosure laws here. Cracked foundation? Termites? Plumbing or electrical problems? If you don't find it through a thorough inspection before you signed on the dotted line, tough luck!

3) There are no zoning laws here. That closed shop next door you barely noticed with your starry eyes may be a carpentry shop or iron works, with shrieking machinery that runs all day. The empty lot next door may be sold to someone who puts up a loud night club.

4) Prices, although they are beginning to show some signs of moderating, are still ridiculously high. This is especially true because you can now find many places in the US cheaper than comparable places here, and with a 1st world infrastructure backing them up. Why so high? Many current owners bought high, paid full price, and now want to sell. Maybe they pumped tons of money in to refurbish the place to their best fantasy. They don't want to take a loss. Many just can't get it through their heads that a house is not worth what you paid for it, or what you spent fixing it up, or what your ego wants it to be worth. It is only worth what someone else will pay for it. And the market is flat on its back, currently.

5) If you ever want to sell, make sure to pack a lunch. It may be a long wait. This goes back to point #1. I have seen houses in my neighborhood and elsewhere currently on sale that have been on sale for the full 4.5 years I have lived here. There are literally hundreds of houses on the market and hundreds of others that will suddenly join them at the first sign the market is improving. If you buy, and for some reason want or need to sell, your house will be competing with all those.

6) Are you really, really sure you want to live here indefinitely? Once you plunk down your cash, you are pretty much anchored to that spot. Maybe you picked the wrong house, maybe the wrong neighborhood, maybe Lake Chapala or even Mexico turns out not to be your cup of tea. Maybe financial issues, or family issues back home, or health issues cause you to decide you must return to the home country. What are you going to do with a house in Mexico you can't sell?

All that said, some people buy houses after a few weeks or even a few days here and say they are happy. Good for them! But anyone who doesn't take the issues I raise above and consider them very carefully is taking a foolish risk with their financial future. Live here long enough so that you know the sheep from the goats and what your real options and risks are before you make any big decisions about buying.

Just my opinion, others may differ.


Rolly


Oct 26, 2011, 2:11 PM

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Re: [cookj5] need advice on renting short term in Ajijic

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Cookie has given you very good advice. Do yourself a favor, pay attention to it.
You'll find more details about finding housing here.


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RickS

Oct 26, 2011, 5:17 PM

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Re: [twelveoaks] need advice on renting short term in Ajijic

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Many (most) rentals at Lakeside are furnished. Some very 'Mexican' others for gringo taste.

Google "ajijic rentals" and you will get some places to start looking/calling/emailing.

A couple are:

http://lagunamex.com/


http://www.romawebsite.com/


http://ajijicrentalsandmanagement.com/


CanuckBob


Oct 26, 2011, 5:24 PM

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You can also try VRBO.com and Rentallocatorsmx.com. Both have lots of short and long term rentals and are not connected to a real estate company. Good luck.

Bob
Inside Lakeside
http://lakechapalainfo.bigforumpro.com/


(This post was edited by CanuckBob on Oct 26, 2011, 5:25 PM)


chinagringo


Oct 26, 2011, 5:34 PM

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While we purchased a "build to spec" home in the Lake Chapala area about thirteen years ago and sold it five years ago, we have learned that rentals for probably two years is the best way to go anywhere in Mexico. Not only do you get a grip on various neighborhoods but it allows you to figure out if Mexico is really for you. Jim Cook is absolutely correct is his analysis and comments!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



right click

Oct 27, 2011, 2:47 PM

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Re: [chinagringo] need advice on renting short term in Ajijic

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The other side of the q.

Some people are renters, some people are not. Most rentals here have inferior furnishings, to the point of back-breaking uncomfort. I'll admit it...I like my own nest.

If you rent a nice house at 800 per month, for five years, that's about 50,000 bucks. Even if you bought at the top of the market, chances are you'll be able to cut 50K off your sales price, sell, then move on, having enjoyed your own house, furnishings, comfort, etc.

Not eveyone can afford to do this, but those who can, it's worth it. I have heard too many stories about renters who planned to stay at their rental dream house for xx years, when lo and behold their landlord decided differently (change in their status sometimes, or just a whim). Too many renters rushing around in November looking for a new place to stay, most with way too much equipale, which looks nice, but is an absolute hell on most people's backs!).

I know one can re-furnish one's rental, add more acoutrements to it, but psychologically and economically it makes no sense to improve someone else's house for them.


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CanuckBob


Oct 27, 2011, 6:42 PM

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Assuming a 300K purchase price a few years back, in todays market cutting 50K may not be nearly enough. You also forgot to consider what you may have earned from alternative investments with that 300K. One could easliy earn a 5% dividend off many stable Canadian investments that have come through the past 5 years unscathed. That is 15K per year which will not only pay that rent but maybe your food and utilities bill as well..........and have enough left over to buy a few comfortable chairs

Just saying eh.

Bob
Inside Lakeside
http://lakechapalainfo.bigforumpro.com/


(This post was edited by CanuckBob on Oct 27, 2011, 6:44 PM)
 
 
 
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