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fug

Feb 12, 2012, 5:50 PM

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Think five of us foreigners have our act together and the required paperwork to enroll on Tuesday morning. My next step is to get my Mexican workers and friends enrolled. Some of them have no idea what Seguro Popular is and they have zero health insurance. Any idea what these folks need, as I want to help these folks get insurance, but do no know what documentation,Mexican nationals need. Do you? I would appreciate fact based information, rather than suppositions and rumors fug



tashby


Feb 12, 2012, 5:58 PM

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http://www.seguro-popular.gob.mx/

If you don't read Spanish, find someone who does.


Chapala Payaso

Feb 12, 2012, 8:04 PM

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I am not an authority on this type of stuff but would assume that they must show valid identification such as theri IFE card or birth certificate. Also proof of residence such as a CFE statement or telephone bill statement. They will also need their curp number which will be in their IFE card if they have one. Easily obtainable if they do not have a curp. I thnk this is all they will need.


Zardoz

Feb 13, 2012, 5:47 AM

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Upper right hand corner of web page look for English and it will print out a one page summary that has a lot of good information.

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fug

Feb 13, 2012, 1:30 PM

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My gardener is going to act as interpreter and is more than thrilled to be paid 100 pesos from each of us and we are more than thrilled to pay him and have him with us.And thank you very much for posting the webbsite. Very much appreciated fug


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fug

Feb 13, 2012, 2:11 PM

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WHAT? You are the guy I was counting on. Do not fail me now. What is IFE? Three of us have a Jalisco driver's license. Hope that works. More tomorrow, assuming I know more than I do today. We all have original CURP and proof of address, passports with copies of face page, etc. I hope we are good to go. If not, you are in big trouble, amigo. Grin. Seriously, thanks for your help on this issue. fug


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fug

Feb 13, 2012, 2:18 PM

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Would never have spotted that without your input. You are correct. Valuable input. Many thanks, fug


Chapala Payaso

Feb 13, 2012, 2:28 PM

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The IFE card is the voting registration for Mexican citizens. It is accepted as the main acceptable identification for Mexican citizens. That does not apply to you. Your main identification in Mexico is your visa or FM3 or whatever it is called now. You have everything you need. The, "they" I was referring to in my above post was regarding Mexican citizens that you intend to assist in the process.


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fug

Feb 13, 2012, 2:30 PM

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WHEW
Feel better now. thanks, fug


prorader

Feb 15, 2012, 3:21 PM

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Welcome to the world of Seguro Popular. I have a post on my experience with this program

I belong and have had 1 operation under this program. The Doctor and Hospital where completely free. The medication at the Hospital was free also. Be aware some tests not at the Hospital you pay for along with medication that the Hospital doesn't have. Good deal. I needed a follow up operation that was not provided by the Hospital, I had to go to Guad to a private facility and had to pay


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tashby


Feb 16, 2012, 8:43 PM

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Think five of us foreigners have our act together and the required paperwork to enroll on Tuesday morning. My next step is ...


And? So? How did it go?


johninajijic

Feb 17, 2012, 7:04 AM

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Isn't Seguro Popular similar to IMSS? Don't they use the SAME hospitals?


Rolly


Feb 17, 2012, 7:16 AM

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No and No
Read here.

Rolly Pirate


Dr.S


Mar 28, 2012, 8:50 PM

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No. There are various hospitals that Seguro Popular uses, but they are not IMSS nor ISSTE. They will use community hospitals, general hospitals, etc. In GDL they mainly use the two Hospital Civiles, and Occidente (both over-crowded in emergencies). If you need emergency treatment, it does not help much. You would get the same treatment if you walked in and colapsed in Hospital Civil - with or without Seguro Popular.

For regular minor treatment, they do cover some things, but you need to go to a SSJ clinic to get a "referencia" for a specialist if you want an ECG EKG, etc. The difference in the treatments between IMSS and Seguro Popular is drastic. For examply, in Seguro Popular you are entitled to basic x-rays, and in IMSS you have the full CAT, MRI, etc (if needed). In IMSS, there are many treatments, in Seguro Popular, there are limited treatments.

The main advantage of Seguro Popular is if you take an expensive medication (and they offer it).

In the back of the book (pdf) in the link below, there is a list of all the medications and all the treatments available with Seguro Popular.

Also know that beggars cannot be choosers. Both insurances are cheap, but you are rarely going to find doctors (there are exceptions) that will take the time to explain your problem to you, and include you in on how you want treated.

One last note, everyone here needs a plan. They need a regular doctor (a very well-educated general doctor) who is available in an emergency, and who has good records on you. In an emergency, knowing or not knowing anything about a patient that just came in the door (usually by ambulance) can be the difference between life and death.

Page 351 starts the list of medications offered.
Page 37 starts the medical treatments (starting with vaccines)

http://www.seguropopulartamaulipas.com.mx/...os/Catalogo-2010.pdf

Dr. Sam



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Axixic


Mar 29, 2012, 4:08 AM

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I think people who have used SP have posted before that if they needed a procedure or medicine that was not included, the patient was charged. Medicines and procedures are available for an extra charge. The charges are still less than what one pays for being with IMSS for several years and then being kicked out when he needs a procedure.

It would be helpful if someone who has been treated at an SP hospital will post his experiences with SP.


NEOhio1


Mar 29, 2012, 10:54 AM

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One of the most important things I was told when we moved to Ajijic was to choose a general physician who had a deep Rolodex and who was intimately connected to the medical school. We did that and have had terrific service from our local physician and his colleagues. Especially for cancer treatment.

Unlike many of the 'new' doctors who arrive to open practices these past few years a connected physician has more options for your care. The number of missed and mis-diagnosis by recent arriving physicians is astounding and they refer to each other and to specific hospitals rather than knowing correct practioner to send you to so we stick with the longterm basic guy here abouts.


AlanMexicali


Mar 29, 2012, 12:39 PM

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http://www.seguro-popular.salud.gob.mx/...d=100&Itemid=137

Requirements in English on their official website.


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prorader

Mar 29, 2012, 12:47 PM

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I had a Gall Bladder removed on SP at the public hospital in sahayaho. The Doctor was a well know Doctor that works in the free hospital 2 days a week. Most of the reall good professional Doctors in Mexico give time each week, the cost for all to include medicine was free, 6 days in the hospital, ALL WHERE VERY GOOD AND PROFESSIONAL. I had to have a follow up surgery that was covered but none of the Doctors had the equipment. I had to go to a private clinc for the operation and that was about $1,000.00 US. All of the free hospitals have very good doctors serve every week


Axixic


Mar 29, 2012, 2:57 PM

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Good to know. I had to join SP so I can have gallbladder surgery. I wish someone knew about the hospitals in Guadalajara.

Didn't they offer you laparoscopic surgery so you would have a one day hospital stay? What was the hospital like and the care?


prorader

Mar 29, 2012, 3:32 PM

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My surgery was in a much smaller town and hospital so I had to have the cut and take it out that was free through SP, the laparoscopic surgery is covered but no doctor had the scope. I went to a Laboratory in Guad that has fantastic operating rooms that they rent by the hour to doctors, because it was outside of the free hospital, it cost me a $1,000.00. You will find with this system that the SP hospital will try to get you to go outside for lab tests, MRI's and Catscans which cost you money. The main free hospital in Guad has all of this equipment but they want to selective use it, they want you to go ouside and pay maybe it is a Gringo stigma. The Doctors in general are well known professionals that live on the private hospitals but work 2 days a week in the free hospitals


prorader

Mar 29, 2012, 4:43 PM

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A now with SP and what was 3 years ago. I had a very bad truck accident an fractured 4 vertebrate in my neck and back. 1 year of extreme pain and no one could say why, finially an Internal Medicine Doctor told me what I had. I was referred to the public hospital in Guadalajara nurosurgery department. Went was examined had an MRI and yes you have a big problem. I was admitted for about 15 days, wife slept next to my bed on the floor (welcome to Mexico) One of the top Nurosurgons in Mexico took my case and threw the bomb at me the Titanium plate and screws would cost about $50,000.00 US plus the hospital and the surgery over $100,000.00 US. I couldn't afford any of that and he came back the next day and sayed I have a deal for you. On Dec 4th He was hosting a Mexico wide Nurosurgery seminar and the company that was the sponsor was the company that makes the plate and screws. I said yes was sent home for several days and went back on Dec 1st. This was to be an easy 2 hour surgery, ended up to be over 6 hours and almost didn't make it. I made it home in time for Christmas 24 days in the hospital, the total cost was $800.00 US, but alive and able to get around. So if I get a little crankie on the board now you know why, I lost some use of my left hand, still some pain and numbness in my back. This hospital is now a part of SP


Axixic


Mar 29, 2012, 5:34 PM

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What is the procedure to be referred for surgery? I haven't seen an SP doctor yet. Do I see the local SP doctor and get a referral to a surgeon in Guadalajara? I've already have an ultrascan and a blood test that is a few weeks old. It's obvious I have stones blocking ducts and the gallbladder has to be removed and should have been when I had my first attack.


prorader

Mar 30, 2012, 7:17 AM

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If you live in Ajijic the SP clinic is at 6 corners, and yes the Doctor is the only one that can refer you to a surgery and hospital which is in Guadalahara.They will make an appointment for the doctor in that area. The easist way is the Chapala bus to the old bus station 2 of the 3 public hospital are pretty close. You probably have a good chance of getting surgery quickly because Gall Bladder and Gall stones are pretty serious stuff be prepared on having a drain tube in your stomach and a plastic bag to drain excess bile for about 2 months


Axixic


Mar 30, 2012, 2:32 PM

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Well this gets more and more creepy all the time. I went all these years without any scars and now I'll have a scar and a drain tube.


prorader

Mar 30, 2012, 3:47 PM

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I think that is true about 8" on the right side of your stomach + 2 holes, maybe you will be lucky but I didn't find any Doctor in SP that has the scope to go down your throat, considered to be expensive for them, but as you know free is free, you can always go to a private hospital in Guadalahara, the cost ??????? My original operation lasted about 4 hours, considered to be serious. The second operation to get extra gall stones and to clear a blockage was about $1,000.00 US in a private clinc in Guadalahara


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