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esperanza

Apr 1, 2003, 7:38 PM

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Restaurant Reflections (Long)

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After eating in many of the restaurants in the Chapala/Ajijic area over quite a few years, I find that there are few if any that I would grade consistently high overall. In one or another, the food is sometimes excellent but the service is....to be charitable...uneven. In one or another, the service is usually good but the food is mediocre. In some the food is worth going for despite the…shall we say, spotty… level of cleanliness. However, overall, I've found that it's more often than not a disappointment to dine out, if the experience is supposed to be about dining as well as the company one is in.

David, thanks for the link...I read and re-read Blue's article. But it's not a list of current restaurants, or a review of current restaurants...it's a piece about a BOOK about a list of current restaurants. The information in the article might make you want to buy the new addition of Ms Kendricks' book, but it doesn't give much solid information about the state of the restaurants of Ajijic.

It's hard in a small town newspaper to write an honest restaurant review. Most of the reviews written in the local English-language press are little more than puff pieces written by folks who appear not to know food. What review worth its column inches would talk about a dish by saying, "I don't know what this thing was, but it tasted okay to me." It's the job of the reviewer to have an inkling of what the food is, what a dish is striving for, what it's supposed to taste like, before hitting 'Open New Document' on Word…no?

Clearly the deliciousness of food is objective. What makes me salivate and come running may not be what makes YOU belly up to the table. My experience of the majority of the foreign community’s desire for food is Tex-Mex and ‘Continental’. Many foreigners would rather pay premium prices for mediocre food than risk (and I use that word advisedly) chancing a supper in a mostly-Mexican cenaduría. Honest Mexican food goes begging, for the most part, although there is one small restaurant here in town that does a booming foreign-community business one night a week~even though the attitude among the foreigners who go there seems to be, “Oh my god, no one back home would ever believe that we are eating in a place like THIS. George, be sure to wipe off that fork before you use it!”

We forget that we live in a small town, albeit a small town with substantial outside influence. Most of the restaurateurs appear to be ill-prepared and generally unacquainted with the management of a top-flight restaurant. Most of the waitstaff appears not to be aware of the requirements for good service. Most of the patrons appear to be equally ill-prepared to genuinely critique a meal.

What in fact DOES make a fantastic restaurant? Wouldn’t it be a combination of consistently well-prepared high quality and honest ingredients, attentive but not overpowering service, pleasant ambience…what else? Close, careful management by a knowledgeable owner. Attention to detail. Cleanliness.

Where in town can we find this combination? Again, your choices may not be my choices, your critieria may not be my criteria. But gosh, we settle way too often for mediocre or less.

My favorite place to eat, when I do eat out, is…uh uh, I’ll never tell.




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PeggyS

Apr 1, 2003, 11:55 PM

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What DOES make a fantastic restaurant? All your criteria were met where we ate tonight. The owner, Mr. B., was in constant attendance, the filet mignon was superb, the salad delicious (no iceberg lettuce allowed) and the baked potato was to die for.
Last Sunday, all the criteria were met, as well as great jazz and friendly supervision by the owner, Mr. J., and the company of Uncle Jack and Miss Patty. Who could ask for more? Well, there's another favorite restaurant where all the criteria are met, plus the owner, Mr. T., also sings. Oh well, it does have super food and a great salad bar. The meat is cooked on an open grill behind the counter where you enter and it really is wonderful, oh those gorgeous barbecued ribs. There are many other places that are clean, have attentive staff and owner, and good food, but a salad bar with pale iceberg lettuce or some other such failing. The ones that aren't great don't survive the off-season, they just can't stay in business. The ones that meet your criteria should be here year after year.


esperanza

Apr 2, 2003, 7:47 AM

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I agree, Mr. B is at the top of my shortlist of great ones. The other two...well...I love Mr. J and his wife, and the ambience of their place, but the food is only so-so most of the time. And Mr. T...oh Peggy, don't let his suave and debonair good looks carry you away. ; )




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wendy devlin

Apr 2, 2003, 12:54 PM

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Hola Esperanza and all,

As you can see...lately...I've been 'tied up' in this restaurant we call home... during springbreak:)

But this thread got me laughing...and remembering...some...

stories about dining out in Mexico.

After eating in many restaurants all over the country over quite a few years, I'm in agreement with you...that one never quite knows what will happen. That capitalizes the word... 'Adventures'.... in dining out!

Personally, over the years, I've taken to minimizing the guesswork out of which places may/or may not be great eats and/or service, by often relying on Mexican friends to pick the place. That way, at least the 'good company' part is assured;)

And... it's also...been my experience that Mexican friends make real sure...that they get the 'best' from the experience.

Sometimes I've almost been embarassed at the amount of intense Spanish exchange that takes places even BEFORE the order is placed. But it seems to be their way of weighting the odds that the food will be prepared to their liking...and ...getting the party off to a great start.

But...when dining on my own or with Arbon, the experience tends to be more of that 'patchy' kind of quality that you mentioned.

For example....One of our friends in Manzanillo, once explained the value of a 'personal connection' to the cook.

In her 15 years of living in the city, she had found that if she really wanted to take people out for a wonderful dining experience...she had to 'track' down this one particular Mexican cook. Evidentially his culinary 'creativity' also translated into frequent quitting or firing...and from one year to the next...he could be found in a different restaurant!

In Melaque we found this also to be true with a certain waiter...One winter we followed after this waiter when he quit one restaurant...to go to another...because...at least...then.... we were assured ' the good service' part of the experience.

Another time in Mealque, we heard positive reviews about this outdoor barbeque every Saturday night for 55 pesos.

( 3 years ago)

So we went to check it out. However a party of thirty people from Oregon had just arrived before us and ordered. By the time our dinner arrived...we stared with disbelief at the pile of BONES...simmering in a spicy sauce on our plates.

"Señor? I inquired politely to the waiter,

" There appears to be NO meat on our bones?"

He replied, "It must have fallen off'.

I replied, "Then... we would like other bones with meat."

He showed his teeth, "For THAT...it would be another 55 pesos!"

Well, we never ate there again.

But oddly enough, we ended up partying hearty with the 30 people from Oregon( many of which were fathers and mothers with young adults, all connected through schools and bands etc) Towards the end, the two waiters really put on a show for us...in effect joining the party...and closing the place down.

Before we left, I asked one of the women, since I had been told that this was everyone's first time in Mexico, how did they manage to find out about a little resort like Melaque?

She replied, that she had read and photocopied all these stories off of the internet...by this woman...on Mexconnect...

Serendipity strikes again. Wendy


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Musicman

Apr 2, 2003, 3:50 PM

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Why are recommended restaurants referred to by initials only? Mr. B, Mr. J, Mr. T, etc. You whet the appetite and then don't share a name.


PeggyS

Apr 2, 2003, 10:36 PM

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Sort of an inside joke. Anyone who lives here know who I mean, and since this is a "non-commercial forum", I didn't know if I should mention the names. If you happen to be visiting, just ask where to get the best filet mignon or whatever. By the way, the jazz is still wonderful on Sundays and the food has improved at Javier and Marta's from so-so to really good. Really really good. Tony still sings on Friday and Saturday with a good keyboard player at his place, and Bruno often has a waiting line to get in for his wonderful food, even on the off-season. I hope this helps a bit.


pat

Apr 3, 2003, 3:53 AM

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Hi Peggy,

I imagine that since we are all paying customers here, David would not object to our mentioning names of recommended establishments. I would certainly be disappointed if he did.

Pat


Musicman

Apr 3, 2003, 4:30 AM

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Okay, riddle solved. Since I have no vested interest in any business in Mexico, I will reveal the restaurant names. Bruno's for steaks, Tony's for a so-so meal, and La Bodega, or is it La Bogata?, for jazz. What the heck, if we cannot express opinions on a restaurant then what is the point of having this forum?


esperanza

Apr 3, 2003, 5:33 AM

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Musicman, your crystal ball is working just fine. Oh, and it is La Bodega, which means 'wine cellar' or 'storage room'.

OK...who would like to venture a chat about the best Mexican restaurants? NOT restaurants with the foreigners' 'Mexican' taste in mind...I'm talking the real deal here. Where does anybody go?




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Musicman

Apr 3, 2003, 9:20 AM

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Gracias Esperanza for clarificaton "La Bodega". As for favorite authentic Mexican restaurants, two come to mind, though both are little hole-in-the wall types. Super Burrito in Ajijic lives up to the name, SUPER. And there is a place on the east side of Zaragoza in Chapala that also has very good burros. Can't remember the name but I will find out and post it tomorrow.


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Apr 3, 2003, 10:42 AM

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Has anyone tried the Tacqeria (is the spelling right?) there on the caraterra in Ajijic? What type of foods would you see served there? I mean, what kind of variety...

That was one place we wanted to try but ran out of time the last time we were there.
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esperanza

Apr 3, 2003, 4:29 PM

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taquería




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PeggyS

Apr 4, 2003, 12:05 AM

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Sorry, Pat, I was just having a little fun and didn't mean to do it at David's expense.
A former U.S. Marine with over four years of distinguished service, including overseas and Vietnam, has the restaurant at Galeana and the carretara formerly owned by Giovanni. He has cleaned it up totally and has a new menu including the best pizza in town at a very reasonable price. Johnny is one of the best hosts in town, with a traditional Italian restaurant (menu, linen tablecloths and napkins and ambience) and a nice bar which carries my favorite wine. The restaurant is almost next door to the Laguna Real Estate and just down from Bruno's. Johnny is Mexican and we thank him for giving up four years of his life to serve in the U.S. military.
 
 
 
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