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shoe


Aug 30, 2003, 8:07 AM

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I just thought: Am I supposed to register with some government organization (U.S. or Mexican) the fact that I am now living in Ajijic? I think I remember reading about it on here somewhere but couldn't find it. Am I in trouble if I don't? My visa says that I am coming here, isn't that enough?

The police should be able to find me here easily enough as all they have to do is look for a stupid gringo who gets lost all the time even walking the streets of Ajijic with a map. I almost got run down by some horses down by the Lake (?). I am having a ball. Even with great directions I get lost walking my butt off, let alone driving.

shoe

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Rolly


Aug 30, 2003, 8:20 AM

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If you have an FM-3, you must register at the local immigration office. Someone will tell you where that is. You should do so right away.

If you have only an FMT, no registration is required.

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Uncle Donnie

Aug 30, 2003, 3:06 PM

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In addition to Rolly's suggestion you should also contact your local consulate (Guadalajara) and register with them. The VA was trying to contact me last year and the consulate got in touch with me on their behalf.

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esperanza

Aug 30, 2003, 7:34 PM

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Shoe, the local INAMI (immigration) office is located on the plaza in San Antonio. Ask any foreigner how to find it. It's open on Tuesday and Thursday, usually from 11:00 AM till 1:00 PM or a little later. Go over there at 9:00 AM and sign up on the list on the desk in the office next door. That gives you a number by which they will call you when it's your turn to see an immigration officer. Then go have breakfast at Mario's, around the corner from the plaza. Then go back and register. You can do it. But go this week, before they likely go on hiatus for Independence Day.




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shoe


Aug 31, 2003, 9:30 AM

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Why do I have to register at INAMI? I can guess why UD wants me to go to Guad to register but why INAMI; for people to find me?

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Rolly


Aug 31, 2003, 9:53 AM

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Why do I have to register at INAMI?

Because that's the law.

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shoe


Aug 31, 2003, 10:06 AM

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OH!!! That is a really good reason. Will do ASAP. Good thing I asked.

shoe

Nothing is intrinsically good or evil, but its manner of usage may make it so.
-St. Thomas Aquinas


Uncle Jack


Aug 31, 2003, 10:07 AM

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........there's a time limit for you to register with the local immigration in your area. I believe that it is 30 days. Otherwise you are subject to a fine. Believe me on this one.

If you are down here on a FM-3, read page 2.

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shoe


Aug 31, 2003, 10:11 AM

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Just thought: I am on a FMT!! Do I need anything other then my visa and passport? Do they care about my truck?

Maybe I should take all the paperwork I got at the border.

shoe

Nothing is intrinsically good or evil, but its manner of usage may make it so.
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Uncle Jack


Aug 31, 2003, 10:18 AM

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If you are down here on a FMT and you have valid ID (Passport), I don't believe that you have to do anything. You did get a car permit when you crossed the border, didn't you? That's valid as long as you are. Be sure to turn it in when you leave.

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shoe


Aug 31, 2003, 10:49 AM

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I am on a FMT... Have a permit on the truck... All the paperwork that I got at the border in one folder, i.e. the copy of the visa and the truck permit. Rolly did say in the first reply that if I am on a FMT I didn't have to do anything. I am confused.

I understand the reason to go to Guad. but not INAMI.

I will probably get Mago or someone to get me a FM3 but until that is done I don't knw if I have to do anything or not. Think I will go see a lawyer Monday.

shoe

Nothing is intrinsically good or evil, but its manner of usage may make it so.
-St. Thomas Aquinas


Uncle Jack


Aug 31, 2003, 11:06 AM

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...........is your FMT good for? It will be stamped with the length of time it is valid. The max is 180 days, but that is not always a given.

Unless you have some unusual circumstances, I wouldn't waste money on a lawyer. Mago or any one of the other immigration expeditors who work here at Lakeside should be able to take care of getting your FM-3 for much less money. Just get things going before your FMT runs out to avoid any possible problems.

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shoe


Aug 31, 2003, 11:15 AM

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I will do that I guess. The FMT is valid for 180 days. I don't know what Mago charges these days but I was recommended to a lawyer that charges $60 for a normal non-working type FM3.

cya...shoe

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Uncle Jack


Aug 31, 2003, 11:27 AM

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$60 USD is in the ballpark.........your money, your choice.

uj


wendy devlin

Aug 31, 2003, 11:36 AM

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Shoe,You also have 30 days to go to a bank & pay for the FMT.


Jean

Aug 31, 2003, 2:47 PM

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Why would you have to go to the bank to pay for a FMT?

He drove down, crossed the border and got paperwork for him and car and would have paid money there. His FMT is good for 180 days. 30 days before it expires he should apply for the FM3 if he is going to stay.

So why does he have to go to a bank and pay more money?
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bournemouth

Aug 31, 2003, 3:33 PM

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When you cross at Nogales and obtain an FMT, the instructions are to pay at a bank at your final destination, wherever that may be. I am making the assumption it is the same at other crossing points. The only thing you pay for at Kl. 21 Nogales is the car permit. Which is why Shoe may need to go to a local bank and pay for his FMT.


wendy devlin

Aug 31, 2003, 3:48 PM

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If Shoe looks at the bottom of his FMT,He will see IF it has been stamped by a bank.

In a rectangle at the bottom of FMT is printed , SELLO DEL BANCO.

Every time We have crossed the border & the 22 Km stop the banks have been closed. (IF there were any banks)

...I can't see where it says 30 days so that maybe different.


Jean

Aug 31, 2003, 4:32 PM

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Ok, I see what you are saying. So when I came down and went to immigration just on the other side of Laredo in Nuevo Lardeo what was I paying $12 (at that time) for? They also took my mastercard at that time, but I distintcly remember paying cash for something.
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Uncle Donnie

Aug 31, 2003, 5:31 PM

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TdD,

I'm confused too. I usually cross at either Laredo or in the country at Colombia. The procedure I've gone through (when I had to cross and my FM-3 was being renewed) was to pay the $12 or so for an FM-T then walk across the lobby to pay the $22 or so for a new auto permit.

The only time I'm aware of having to pay any money directly to a bank in Mexico is when you renew your FM-3 or extend an FM-T that was issued for less than 180 days. Those booths in the Imigration offices at the border are bank kiosks. I've never crossed after midnight but I know the Columbia bank stays open late.

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shoe


Aug 31, 2003, 9:41 PM

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I had to pay the bank next to the visa office before he would give me the visa. All part of the game it looked like to me. After the bank had stamped the form that they got money, then he stamped it and tore off my part and gave it to me and sent me to the vehicle registration line just down the hall. It was mid morning and the whole thing didn't take more than a hour. I had all my paperwork thanks to this site. I was even sending people in the vehicle registration line to the visa line so that they could get a visa first as that has to be done I knew.

shoe

Nothing is intrinsically good or evil, but its manner of usage may make it so.
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zapata Bob

Sep 1, 2003, 6:02 AM

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The first time I came down there on a FMT I was told to go to the bank and obtain the signiture when I got to Lakeside, which I did. Since then and after asking folks down there I've not done that, with no reprocussions on my return. I cross at Falcon Dam, 70 or so miles on down the river from Laredo. It's not so often used and I doubt if the personel are so knowledgeable, but I get through smoothly with little waiting. Come to think of it, I don't remember being told that after my first trip!


wendy devlin

Sep 2, 2003, 1:09 PM

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http://mexconnected.com/...ch_string=FMT;#17057

I found out a little info (the hard way) about the fee that tourists to Mexico have to pay for entering the country.

Several days before we left for Mexico, we went to the Mexican Consulate in Denver. We didn't need to go there for the tourist card paper, but we had time on our hands before the trip, and thought it would make things simpler at the border. We filled out the paper and took it with us to Juarez. We took the really inexpensive bus (Los Angeles Limosene Bus) from Denver to Juarez for $40 US. When we reached the Mexican border, the driver stopped the bus and let everyone off for inspections. He waited for my husband and I to go inside to get our papers stamped. We were given a 180 day pass. No one ( Mexican Consulate/aduana at the border) mentioned our going to a bank to pay the $19.00. When we asked our driver about the fee, he told me that we no longer were charged for it. Only vehicles entering the country were charged now. I was suprised, but he took passengers across the border every day, so I accepted his answer. When we flew back to Juarez from Mexico City, the aduana met us at the airport. They wanted to see our tourist cards. They told us that we had not paid our fee and that we had to wait two days for the banks to re-open (it was Friday evening) to do it. There was no change of policy!!! This is what I learned....You have the whole time alotted to you on your tourist card to make the payment. If you were given 90 days...you have 90 days to pay it...180 days...you have 180 days to pay it. If you decide to leave Mexico without paying the $19, and you ever return to Mexico in the future, you must pay $4 US for every day that has passed from the exit date on your original tourist card. That's a mighty heavy fine! If you come back a year later, it could cost you $1460 US plus the $19 US. This info came from the top customs official at the Juarez border. We had apreviously flown into Mexico and the fee was included in our tickets, so we hadn't dealt with this before. Hopefully this will save others from any confusion.


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Rolly


Sep 2, 2003, 5:19 PM

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Wendy, thanks for your post. Some of us have been urging compliance with the law, but sometimes we get drowned out by the scoff law folks. It's nice to have a real testimonial. Although I am sorry for your two-day misfortune.

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wendy devlin

Sep 2, 2003, 5:47 PM

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Well Rolly,We are glad to say it was not us in the story,the story came from Thorn Tree,

I think it was Lyn 2 that it happened to.

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