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jckottler

Mar 23, 2011, 12:59 PM

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I asked about dating Lakeside in another thread. Several of the guys mentioned dating Mexican women. I'd like to hear from some of the guys about their experiences in this area. I've heard that if you marry a Mexican woman, sometimes the family expects you to become their financial benefactor.
My whole life I've always had friends from other countries. My ex-wife is from China. Somehow, an accent has always been attractive to me. I always have a hundred questions to ask when I meet someone from a foreign culture. I find it very interesting to meet people from different backgrounds.

eyePad

Mar 23, 2011, 7:23 PM

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It sounds like you are a goner. It will most likely be a pleasant demise. Unlike many of the posters on the other thread and on this board I did not retire here and did not marry a mexican NOB. I came here to do research and ended up marrying a very traditional full-blooded indigenous girl. There are a great deal of positives and a few negatives in it. People are people the world over so one must keep one's wits about oneself and judge character. One big positive for us guys - traditionally a much older guy is considered a good catch (more stable, better economically). It surprises me that other posters consider this 'gold digging'. Just so many typical NOB attitudes.

cbviajero

Mar 24, 2011, 9:06 AM

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I've been married to a mexican woman for 5 years,meeting Lupe is the best thing that ever happened to me.
It helps if you speak spanish.
Regards
Chris

Gringal

Mar 24, 2011, 9:31 AM

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Generalizations about Mexican women are just about as useful as generalizations about U.S. women. They arrive one at a time in your life, and can be angels from above or the worst tempered witches from below. Be careful about this kind of "advice".

CanuckBob

Mar 24, 2011, 9:44 AM

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In Reply To

Amen to that.........LOL.

Bob
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http://lakechapalainfo.bigforumpro.com/

tonyburton

Mar 24, 2011, 9:57 AM

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Of course, there was a time when it was considered perfectly acceptable to make generalizations on this subject.
For example (quoting from http://geo-mexico.com/?p=485):

The British-born journalist William English Carson (1870-1940) spent four months in Mexico, in 1908-1909, collecting material for his “Mexico, the Wonderland of the South“, never straying far from the railways. Always an enthusiastic traveler, many of his views about Mexicans will strike modern readers as stereotypical. For example, Carson devoted an entire chapter to “The Mexican Woman“. Many of Carson’s pronouncements read today as outrageous over-generalizations. Select quotes from the chapter include:

“no foreigner, unless he be associated with diplomacy, is likely to have any chance of studying and judging the Mexican women”
“the Mexican girl has but two things in life to occupy her, love and religion”
“As a rule, the Mexican women are not beautiful”.

Your mileage may vary...
Tony

cbviajero

Mar 24, 2011, 9:59 AM

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I was'nt offering advice, just stating the facts of my situation.
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Chris

Gringal

Mar 24, 2011, 10:22 AM

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True, amigo.........but I was referring to the many generalizations I have heard others make on the subject of "Mexican Women".

Many wise men have admitted that thinking they understand any women is a path to subsequent foolhardy behavior. It's like the great joke going around about when you ask "what's wrong" and they say "nothing".

And .....I'm glad you found a good woman yourself.

Rolly

Mar 24, 2011, 11:00 AM

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The Mexican government is trying to reduce sexism among its workers according this article.
MEXICO'S interior ministry today distributed a guide to reducing sexist language in the government offices of a nation renowned for its machismo.
The Manual for the Non-Sexist Use of Language is a "tool to familiarize federal public workers with the use of non-sexist strategies in the Spanish language," according to the introduction of the guide.
The recommendations came amid concern over a rise in female homicides in Mexico, also called femicides, in which women are particularly targeted for their gender.

Read "Manual para el Uso no sexista del lenguaje" in Spanish.

Rolly Pirate

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oringo

Mar 24, 2011, 2:55 PM

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All these comments really cracked me up. Having observed marriage practice from thousands year old culture up to now, these old folks are still living in the dream not in reality. Men are men and women are women regardless of the region. Localizing ideosyncracy of gender such as Mexican women itself seems ludicrous. By saying this I know I am diving into flame to burn myself because most of expats would disagree but still earth orbits sun against pontiff's wish and I feel being obliged to tell the truth. If you put US on far right and Papua New Guinea or Amazonian tribe in the jungle on far left on the straight line you can insert the rest of countries in between. The more any countries modernized, economically developed in time the more women tend to change toward far right. Modernization eventually provides equal social opportunity and economic independence for women and the women lose the traditional femininity defined by male sex for ten thounds years. On the other hand male machoism becomes obsolete and men become feminized in a certain degree. American men are probably the most picky and whining male species in the entire human history. I'm not a sociologist or an anthropologist and don't have much education but I've spent one third of my free alert time analyzing this through observation so I have no desire to argue or debate what-so-ever, please no reply. If you are looking for an exotic female species from the left side corner of the world (there is nothing wrong with that), you look at yourself and find the reason why before you define how an exotic woman is.

Gringal, you are absolutely right.

jckottler

Mar 24, 2011, 9:59 PM

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The difference between understanding socio-cultural differences and making stereotypical generalizations is the difference between good things and corruptions of good things. In fact, everything that is corrupt starts as something good. Nothing is as necessary to the health and survival of a nation as patriotism, but take it to an extreme and it becomes super-nationalism and even fascism. Nothing is as wholesome and life affirming as mother love. Take it to an extreme and it becomes "Momism," and the child is mentally abused.
Stereotypes or over-generalizations are corruptions of a good thing, sensitivity to other cultures. There are generalizations, fair generalizations, you can say about people from other cultures. After being married to a Chinese woman for 25 years, as well as having read books on the subject, I can honestly report a different style of speaking and writing among Chinese. People from China tend not to speak or write in topic sentences. An educated Chinese would not likely summarize, when writing or speaking, following with details, the way an educated Westerner would. The Chinese tradition is to start from the middle with a detail, then wind around and around, detail by detail, wider and wider, coming to the summary much later. This does not mean there are no exceptions, but to not recognize differences in cultures is almost as disrespectful to those cultures as over-generalizing them.
If you are unwilling to make any generalizations, it turns into another corruption, political correctness. I believe that we should recognize the true and deep differences between different cultures. As the great Yddish dialect comedian, Myron Cohen, pointed out, a scrupulously accurate, even exaggerated, dialect humor can be hilarious. But even a little inaccuracy in the dialect and it becomes offensive.
What I am most interested in is people's own experiences with Mexican women. I believe that there are intelligent and sensitive people out there who know the difference surface stereotypes and true and accurate cultural reporting.

Gringal

Mar 25, 2011, 6:49 AM

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My point was that you can't generalize about "women" from any culture. They come in all attitudes.

Of course there are differences in the cultures themselves. That's a given.

Georgia, being the mom of a few Latinas, made some good points about the differences.

chinagringo

Mar 25, 2011, 8:26 AM

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It seems that all of you are forgetting: "all Men are from Mars and all Women from Venus"!

Refresher attached:
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM

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Mar 25, 2011, 1:48 PM

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Trying to figure out your multiple posts, asking for answers to your questions, and then disagreeing with most everyone. Why post questions when you seem to have all of the answers? Best wishes, T

jckottler

Mar 26, 2011, 6:51 PM

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Don't think it has been easy for me, having all the answers. I first found out that I knew all the answers in high school. This made me the most unpopular boy in school, but I soon rectified it by becoming the richest boy in high school. I sold answers to all the tests. This worked wonderfully until one day, while I gave the right answers, they gave the wrong questions. This gave me a lot to think about, as I spent the next three months in the hospital.
Since I had all the answers, I next went into politics. I became the country's leading expert on weapons of mass destruction. But now, it is best that I leave the U. S. and head for Lakeside I made a teeny error about a foreign war, and they fired me for it.