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RickS

Jul 24, 2009, 8:29 AM

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I know the age group is correct here on the Forum, just not sure about the musical persuasion of said. Having said that......

John 'Marmaduke' Dawson, a longtime Grateful Dead collaborator who co-wrote "Friend of the Devil" and developed a devoted following with his country group New Riders of the Purple Sage has passed away in San Miguel de Allende where he retired a few years ago.

With the Grateful Dead's Jerry Garcia, Dawson co-founded the New Riders in 1969 to showcase his songs along with Garcia's pedal-steel guitar playing. Two other Dead members, bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Mickey Hart, also played with the New Riders for a time. The New Riders scored their first gold record in 1973 with the hit The Adventures of Panama Red.
John Dawson was 64.

Source: Portions of the above (actually the whole damn thing!) were proved by The Associated Press.

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Jul 24, 2009, 10:29 AM

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Rick I am an old deadhead from san francisco, calif, thanks for the news, sorry to hear about his passing did not even know he was in mexico.

Pat from San Pancho, GTO

Peter


Jul 24, 2009, 7:55 PM

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I know the age group is correct here on the Forum, just not sure about the musical persuasion of said. Having said that......

John 'Marmaduke' Dawson, a longtime Grateful Dead collaborator who co-wrote "Friend of the Devil" and developed a devoted following with his country group New Riders of the Purple Sage has passed away in San Miguel de Allende where he retired a few years ago.

With the Grateful Dead's Jerry Garcia, Dawson co-founded the New Riders in 1969 to showcase his songs along with Garcia's pedal-steel guitar playing. Two other Dead members, bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Mickey Hart, also played with the New Riders for a time. The New Riders scored their first gold record in 1973 with the hit The Adventures of Panama Red.
John Dawson was 64.

Source: Portions of the above (actually the whole damn thing!) were proved by The Associated Press.

Thanks for posting this. You've alerted another old, retired Deadhead and New Riders fan living here in Mexico. So very sorry to hear of his passing. He died Tuesday of stomach cancer.

-Peter
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Merry Born


Sep 9, 2009, 9:14 AM

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Did he "pass" or did he die? Sorry, couldn´t resist. That euphemism always catches my attention, and I always marvel at the problem people have with uttering the word death. Here in Mexico, nobody passes. We just die, and then we are remembered every year during Los Muertos.

Gringal

Sep 10, 2009, 8:38 AM

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Thank you, Merry. Euphemisms seem to be popular in the NOB culture, in general. When I first read the thread title, I expected it to be about "passing" for something. Mexico has a firmer grasp on reality, so we don't have "The Day of the Passing".

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Sep 10, 2009, 9:01 AM

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Did he "pass" or did he die? Sorry, couldn´t resist. That euphemism always catches my attention, and I always marvel at the problem people have with uttering the word death. Here in Mexico, nobody passes. We just die, and then we are remembered every year during Los Muertos.
The wording 'pass', or 'pass away', or 'pass on', has been common English usage since the time of Shakespeare, Milton, Blake, Coleridge, Tennyson, and throughout the entire range of English literature. It's common usage all over the USA: "John's father passed last Thursday." In these English-language usages, 'pass' is used to express a transition from one state to another.

Spanish also has other words for dying besides "morir": fallecer, expirar, dejar de existir, etc. Fallecer comes closest to the English 'pass away' and is just as much a euphemism. It's the most commonly used word for 'died' in polite Mexican conversation. "El papá de Juan falleció el jueves."

Clearly we don't often hear about 'El Día de los Fallecidos' (although I have heard it used), but we all have our euphemisms.

And I too thought we were going to hear about someone in San Miguel passing as something that he or she wasn't!


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Rolly


Sep 10, 2009, 9:10 AM

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I have never understood what's wrong with just plain old "died." Why all these beating around the bush words?

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Brian

Sep 10, 2009, 11:50 AM

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I thought it had to do with an unsafe driving maneuver on a one way street at a blind intersection. It's just as plausible :-)

gpkisner

Sep 10, 2009, 11:52 AM

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"And I too thought we were going to hear about someone in San Miguel passing as something that he or she wasn't!"

With all the "border promotions" in San Miguel, there would not be enough space for all the posting!!

tony88


Sep 18, 2009, 8:40 PM

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At least he died in Mexico. R.I.P.

Geos

Oct 4, 2009, 12:26 PM

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God, I feel old. When the icons of your youth start dropping like flies (sorry, passing) you know you're not far behind. Just listening to Panama Red the other day brought back fond memories of my ill spent adolescence. I used to wonder why people bother getting old when it's so much more fun being young. Wonder no more.

indianajulia

Oct 30, 2009, 6:14 AM

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Bodies die. Souls pass. Its all perspective. Its all good.
 
 
 
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