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David Eidell

May 12, 2003, 10:03 AM

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Patzcuaro On Fifteen (US) Dollars A Day?

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I recently bragged that this feat could still be done. But at what cost? In July for example. A cheap hotel room, living Mexican style. We want to escape coastal lowlands heat and humidity for awhile.



jennifer rose

May 13, 2003, 7:23 PM

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All of the hotels in Patzcuaro -- cheap or otherwise -- are Mexican style. It's rather insulting to equate living cheaply with "living Mexican style."

I do not believe that you will find loding for less than $15 USD/day in Patzcuaro. That sum will not buy you an RV space and leave enough for food and other necessities. The least costly alternative would be to rent a place to set up a camping spot (without an RV) at El Pozo Trailer Park.


David Eidell

May 14, 2003, 10:56 AM

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Hi Jennifer,

It may come as a surprise, but my bet is with Mexicans, who lavished the title ´barato´ on my quest. Arturo said "Aha my friend you will have to live like a Mexican to do that" Now some upper-crust ricos may take exception to my cuesta most ordinary folk understand perfectly. As far as I am concerned amiga, about ninety-nine percent of the folks worth knowing and the places worth staying at in Mexico are affordable and "reachable" to the average gente. A hundred dollar a night hotel room has about as much relativity to Mexico as Leona Helmsley does to the American poor. Rich Mexicans spend money to escape their fellow less fortunate Mexicans no matter where they are -- I shall not follow their mistake.

Saludos!



David


wendy devlin

May 14, 2003, 12:59 PM

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Hola David,

Arbon and I spend four days camping at El Pozo mid-winter last year-brrrrrr!

At that time the rate was $12 a night, including individual water tap and picnic table to each site.

Bathrooms and showers(hot) were located in another building. Laundry could be done by arrangement.

Hmmm...that leaves...you...$3. Knock yourself out, El Codo!

Saludos de Canada Wendy

P.S. if you plan on staying several weeks, you could likely negotiate a lower long-term rate.

Villa Patzcuaro RV park, located closer to town, has pleasant grounds and services but is likely a higher price per night.


gpk

May 15, 2003, 10:20 AM

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Yes, Mexicans say: "You'll have to live like a Mexican", but they only say it to Gringos.


Tom

Jun 24, 2003, 6:44 PM

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I'll bet it can. A big question is alone or with someone else.

A 130 peso hotel room (2 year old price w/o bargaining) split in 2 you have a slam-dunk, leaving 85 pesos for eats (an easy mark). Two bolillos from a panaderia (a block or 2 from el Centro - 1 p each), a banana from the market nearby (1 p), and 3 manila mangoes (@4-5p) for breakfast makes 8p. Get your bottled water in a big volume and keep refilling a 1 litre empty spreading the cost over days (maybe 5 p a day). So far 65p + 8p + 5p = 78p. Blow 30p on comida corrida by going big and getting fish, leaves an irresponsible 48p for tacos al pastor after dark in the market and some great ponche. Or you could follow the smell of woodsmoke to a few blocks from el Centro where there are uddles of women making tamales at night. You ought to be able to walk away from there with a 25p saving built up for the next day. What I would do then is catch a bus to Santa Clara del Cobre late morning and get a quarter kilo of damn fine carnitas from a good stand right in the heart of things, a stack of tortillas, and some guacomole salsa or some pickeled peppers.

Things not to do: drink pop, drink alcohol, hire a mariachi group to seranade you.

Or go gringo, take the math out of your life, and just ask around who houses gringos for language schools. Approach them personally and make an offer for room and board - 150p. Or find some women who are jealous of her and knock the price down to 75p, leaving 75p for touring, buying trinkets, or paying for your bus ticket to and from Patzcuaro. Under these circumstances even if my room and full board were paid at 75p, I would still go and gorge on carnitas at 2 PM in Santa Clara for the heck of it.

Or.....(if you are going back north in the near future) talk around and see whose got sons working in you area in the USA (shouldn't be hard). If you know any of them you are home free! Then offer to carry a box of mom's mole and other home make heart food up north with you. There are mom's who have 2-3 son's up north who are building her a new house and their bedrooms are empty until they return in November-December. The trick, if you can't find personal connection with someone up north, is to establish sufficient trust. Just keep talking. Say you are looking for a place, talk about your health problems, the duplicity of talking open markets and giving farm subsidies in the USA, cooking techniques, etc. Sooner or later somebody is going to know somebody.

If you can get your hotel for 80p or less, you can still eat well sticking closer to the market and carrying a pocket knife for pealing and cutting - pepinos, zanahorias, and the list goes on. If you are not just passing through and want to sit out a month or two with great sleeping nights, you could rent a place; cook, and probably start a bank account.

I heard tell from a guy in a pueblo that there was a gringa living in his pueblo with a couple for free room, she used their kitchen to cook her own food and only had to pay for her supplies in the market. Everybody in the pueblo likes her. He said, "La vida aqui es barato. Barato!"

Actually, David, I've read your posts over at the People's Guide quite some time ago, and I don't think that 150 p/day would challenge your creativity. Heck, spread the word that people told you that you couldn't live in Patzcuaro on 150 p/day, and you said it could be done. People will start telling you how to do it.

If you go I want to hear every detail.

Tom


rock9995

Sep 7, 2003, 1:39 PM

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I'm with you, Tom. I'm coming to Morelia in a few weeks for a few weeks and would much rather do it the way you describe than the way my rich travelling companion wants to (stay in more upscale, $80 plus/night hotels near the plaza). It's going to be a fun time for him...only taking one group spanish lesson per day as opposed to four one-on-one lessons for me per day. Unlike him, I have plans to come back to Michoacan again!

rock
 
 
 
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