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raferguson


Oct 26, 2006, 7:38 AM

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As of November 4th, when you call a Mexican Cell phone from the USA or anywhere outside Mexico, or even another city in Mexico, you will be paying that airtime, at a rate of 3.5 pesos per minute, in addition to long distance.

I understand that the new dialing scheme will be 011-52-1-XXX-XXX-XXXX, where the X's represent the cell phone number and clave (ten digits). If you call a Mexican cell phone from Mexico, but outside the city of the cell phone, you will need to dial 045-XXX-XXX-XXXX. But if you are inside the same city, you will dial 044-XXX-XXX-XXXX. I am not 100% sure in what ways this is a change in the old dialing pattern, but I think that it does represent a change.

If I have this confused, let me know. I got this from an article on El Universal.

Richard


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bournemouth

Oct 26, 2006, 8:25 AM

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I've been reading these articles too Richard. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether it is all cellphones or just Telcel - does anyone else have any input here? It's almost enough to make you give up on Mexican cell phones.


Papirex


Oct 26, 2006, 10:21 AM

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We use Iusacell service for our cell phones, and we have not heard anything about this. There was no notification in our phone bills for this month. Telmex has always charged us for a call to any local cell phone from our home phone though. I don’t really appreciate Telmex charging me extra for using a service that they have no investment in.

I haven’t called a cell phone lately and I can’t remember the amount we are charged, but I believe it has been about 1 ½ Pesos per minute. This is one of the reasons we chose to pay Iusacell for their radiophone option for our two cell phones.

My wife and I can call each others cell phones anywhere that Iusacell has coverage at no cost, and without using any of the minutes in our monthly cell phone plans. My wife goes to her mother’s house in Mexico City at least once per month for 2 or 3 days. When she is there, I leave my cell phone turned on here in Cuernavaca. She can call me from Mexico City, and vice versa, at no cost at all. That’s just my little way of cutting Carlos out of the loop.

I wonder if Telmex is increasing the amount they charge per minute for calls to cell phones? I just looked at this months Telmex bill, and there is no mention of any pending increase.

The first number that Richard lists, 011-52-1-XXX-XXX-XXXX, would be used if you were calling a Mexican cell phone from The United States. To call a local cell phone at present, we need to use the prefix 044 followed by the ten-digit cell phone number, including the area code, 044-XXX-XXX-XXXX. When calling a cell phone number in a different city in Mexico, we must use the long distance prefix of 01 followed by 044 and the area code and the cell phone number, 01-044-XXX-XXX-XXXX. Maybe this is about to change.

Rex (the skinflint)
"The supreme happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved" - Victor Hugo

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lakechapaladreamer

Feb 6, 2007, 11:07 AM

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Does anyone in the Lake Chapala are know how I would get set up with the plan that Rex is describing? Does anyone know if it is possible to get a local phone # yet (non-Guad)? Can I get it at the stores around the square in Ajijic? I was told it would be possible by Jan.

Also, someone recommended that I get a phone from OXXO (similar to Tracfone in the states). I checked in the Ajijic store and they had a nice looking phone for under 500 pesos with, I believe, 200 minutes included. I couldn't communicate well with the woman employee, so I couldn't determine how to activate it or if I would have a Guad #. Anyone know??

We are about to drive 2 cars to Texas and would like to have at least one working cell phone to use in case of an emergency (car breakdown or accident).


Papirex


Feb 6, 2007, 1:07 PM

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You will probably need to go to an Iusacell office to get the same plan we use. I don’t know if there is one near Ajijic, you will probably need to go to Guadalajara. You might want to check this link:
http://www.iusacell.com/ Click on the “cobertura” button at the top of the page to see their coverage area. Then click on the “nacional” button on the left hand side of the page that comes up. Then click on the map of Mexico that comes up to activate the control for the page, and double click on region 5. Ajijic is listed there.

I would advise double-checking with Iusacell to find out how good the service is in the lakeside area. I posted on a different forum today that my wife went to Ajijic and Guadalajara last month. I called her from Cuernavaca. The reception and voice quality when I called her in Guadalajara was very good.

When I called her in Ajijic it was the pits. The phone would ring in her aunt’s house, but she couldn’t hear me. She went outside and called me back. There was a lot of static, and the call was lost a couple of times. Maybe if I had also been in Ajijic the calls would have been of better quality, but I’m sure the problems were probably related to the location of the cell phone antenna tower. Of course I have no way of knowing if the last tower is located in Guadalajara, or another place between Ajijic and Cuernavaca. At least, using our plan, Telmex is out of the loop, and there is no extra carge for those calls, and none of our plan minutes were used.

If you are not fluent in Spanish, take someone with you that speaks Spanish if you go to an Iusacell office. It is rare to find someone that speaks English in one of their offices.

Iusacell uses CDMA technology. If you have your own phone you can use their services. If you need a new phone, one will be given to you if you are willing to sign a 1, 2, or 3 year contract. The longer the contract the better the phone you will be given. Iusacell also will replace your phone batteries at no cost to you when necessary.

My wife went in to get new batteries about six months ago. She was told that they did not make the model of phone she had anymore, and batteries were no longer available either. She was given a new camera phone, their best model.

I got a new phone from them a few months ago too. I had been using a phone I bought, not one of theirs. When I returned from my trip to America last July and got our cell phone bills, there were over a couple of Thousand Pesos worth of long distance calls made in the Guadalajara area using my phone number. That was over 2 hundred US Bucks. I was out of the country when they were made, and I had my cell phone with me. I went down to the cell phone company office, expecting a hassle to prove that I didn’t make those calls.

There are a couple of people there that know us, and they promptly removed the false charges, I didn’t need to show them my airline tickets to prove I was out of the country when those calls were made. They took my word for it that I had not been in Guadalajara in two years, and the phone was with me in The United States at the time the calls were made, and no one could have used it while I was gone.

The phone worked fine until the end of July, then I started getting the message that it was disconnected whenever I tried to use it. There is one young woman at the cell phone company named Bertha that knows us, and speaks fluent English, I knew she would be the best person for me to easily find out what had happened with my service.

I went in and talked to Bertha about the problem. She checked on her computer and said it was related to the problem with the false charges on my account. She told me that she would correct it, but it would be two or three days before my phone would be functional again. After a week the phone still was not functional. Bertha called me at home about that time, and told me that I would need to bring my phone in to her office, so she could reprogram it with a different phone number.

When I went in to see her, she explained that someone had cloned my old phone, and the only way that the IUSACELL Company could prevent it from being used again was to permanently disable that number. She also told me that I would need to sign a new contract, because the old contract needed to be voided. I wasn’t charged for the month that my phone was out of service; I never received a bill for it after July anyway.

My old contract was for the cheapest service they offer, I have less minutes per month than Doris does with her plan, I never use all my minutes. My contract was only for a six-month period. Bertha told me that she could give me a new phone if I wanted to sign a one, two, or three-year contract. When I asked her the price for those longer contracts, she told me my monthly cost would be the same as I have been paying, which is about $50 Bucks per month. She told me that with the one-year contract, they would give me a good phone. With the two-year contract, I would get a phone with more features, and with the three-year contract, I would get their best phone, all for the same monthly cost that I have been paying.

I told Bertha that I would like to get a phone the same as Doris has, it is an LG brand, model MX200, it’s a camera phone. I know that camera phones don’t usually take pictures of as good a quality as a regular digital camera, but if I have one it will always be with me, if I don’t have my regular digital camera on me. Bertha told me that it is their best phone, and it comes with the three-year contract, I had to pay a one-time fee of $100 pesos (less than $10 US Bucks) the next month. I could also get that same phone with a two-year contract, but I would have needed to pay a one-time fee of $399 pesos (less than $40 US Bucks). I told her I would sign the three-year contract. She asked me if I was sure I wanted to sign a contract for three years. I told her we have been with Iusacell for many years, we like the service, and we aren’t moving anywhere. Done.


I have enabled it online, and I receive our cell phone bills via Email. You can also opt for auto pay with a Mexican or US credit card.

In our area, we are delighted with Iusacell, There’s no way for me to tell how it will function in your area.

Rex







"The supreme happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved" - Victor Hugo

(This post was edited by RexC on Feb 6, 2007, 1:30 PM)


lakechapaladreamer

Feb 7, 2007, 6:57 AM

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Rex, Thank you so much for the detailed reply! I will go to the website and investigate.

Lakesiders: Does anyone know someone who uses IUSACELL? How is the reception lakeside? Can one get a lakeside # yet?
 
 
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