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EarlA

Oct 14, 2006, 2:32 PM

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Our plane will arrive at GDL, where we are renting a car, around 2:30 pm on a Saturday. Our first visit will be to San Miguel De Allende. My Guia Roji Road Atlas has not yet arrived, however SMA appears to be something on the order of a 4-5 hour drive. I decided early on that I do not want to do the drive at night. Tepatitlan de Morelos appears to be an hour away from GDL however I'm not having luck finding hotel listings. Our apartment in SMA will not be available until 2:00 pm Sunday. Any suggestions on how to make the most of the trip and where to find nice, but not pricey, accommodations along the way? Thank you.

Earl



Bubba

Oct 20, 2006, 9:47 PM

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I presume you mean Saturday, October 21 which means this is probably too late to help you but it seems to me you should be going on the Guadalajara-Mexico Autopista, Highway 15 and cutting off at La Piedad to Irapuato, Celaya and San Miguel. I don´t know why you would be going through Tepatitlan de Morelos at all. Maybe I´m wrong but if you do go the way I´m suggesting you should find good lodging at La Piedad or Irapuato. Good luck.


EarlA

Oct 21, 2006, 8:49 AM

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Thank you, Bubba, for your note ... looks like I was headed the long way if not the wrong way. We will be arriving at GDL on Saturday November 4 so still plenty of time to get the route worked out. I was told that the Gui Roji maps are the best so I ordered the atlas which has arrived. The GR maps are difficult to follow due to the lack of overlap on map page breaks ... the connection between #15 and La Piedad falls on one such break. Also, the Guadalajara city map does not include the airport.

The airport appears to be on #44. Would it be best to take #44 south to #35 running SE or try to navigate through the city East to #15? If I take #35 I could cut over to #15 at Ocotlan or join #15 at La Bacca? To get to La Piedad, it appears that I need to leave #15 either just beyond La Bacca (going through Yurecuaro) or at Ecuandureo. The rest of the trip falls on just one page and is much easier to follow. The map shows a #45 "O" leaving Irapuato, bypassing both Salamanca and Celaya, which joins the road to SMA a bit north of Celaya ... would this be the preferred route?

Anticipating the return to Standard Central time, I'm thinking we should plan on being settled no later than 4:30 which gives us no more than 2 hours driving on strange roads in a country with which we are not familiar. It looks like La Piedad would be a stretch. My preference would be to overnight within an hour or so of the airport and make the run to SMA in the morning when we are fresh.

Thank you.

Earl


jerezano

Oct 21, 2006, 1:41 PM

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Hello Earl A:

You apparently want to steer clear of the autopistas. Perhaps wisely so, as you will be new to driving in Mexico, and in a strange car as well. However to reach San Miguel de Allende in one day from the Guadalajara airport you would head to Guadalajara, and then on the South periferico [I hate the perifericos in Guadalajara but they are better than driving through the city] take the Mexico City Exit and join the autopista all the way to Celaya where you head North to San Miguel de Allende. Unfortunately there are no really good stops that I know of until you reach San Juan de los Lagos. And that is about 3 hours away so you would arrive there sometime around 7:00 or perhaps 8:00 PM. It starts getting dark now at about 7:30 PM. and San Juan de los Lagos is some kilometers off the autopista.

Since you will be arriving at 2:30 PM Central Standard Time at the Guadalajara airport, I would assume perhaps half an hour to gather baggage, pick up the car, etc. It is already 3:00 PM assuming flight arrived on time. You folks will also be tired from the trip. Let me suggest that you overnight in a bed and breakfast in Ajijic which is easily reachable in 30 to 45 minutes from the airport. (Search for bed and breakfast there--although Casa de Flores is a good one). It is now after 4, check in rest a bit, walk around the city square in Ajijic, get a flavor of a great retirement spot in Mexico, stop at the Lake Chapala society and talk to people about driving to San Miguel de Allende and get recommendations, eat a good meal, and go to bed early.

Plan on leaving the next morning shortly after breakfast which in a good B&B will be served at about 7:30--8 at the latest. If you go the autopista route which will probably be recommended by most of the people you talk to, you will now have the information needed. If you go the Piedad route you will reach La Piedad too early to overnight. And unfortunately from Abasolo on to Irapuato you will be on heavily transited highways. Perhaps overnight in Irapuato if you are tired and the hour is right. But depending on the hour, you can plan on overnighting at Salamanca, Celaya,or all the way to San Miguel de Allende. At Irapuato you will be foreced to continue on heavily transited highways [I would recommend the autopista for safety] all the way to Celaya. At Celaya exit North to San Miguel de Allende. This route through La Piedad is the long way around. Yes, you will cut the autopista travel and tolls by many kilometers and pesos. But remember, the autopistas are well maintained, they usually have limited access, they are usually well signed although the exits are never signed far enough ahead for the speeds at which you are traveling. Still they are much safer than the libres.

I hope that somebody who has traveled both of these suggested routes more often than I will respond to your query. After all you want your vacation to be as hassle free as possible.

Have fun. Enjoy Mexico. Adiós jerezano.


EarlA

Oct 21, 2006, 5:03 PM

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jerezano,

Thank you for your note. My map of GDL shows Anillo Periferico Sur west of #44 and no connection from #44 to Anillo Periferico Ote. Were I to go north on #44, it appears I would run into #80 Autopista going East and turning North. From there I assume one would take #45 East to Leon, Irapuato, and Celeya.

Bubba suggested the La Piedad route and that does look more direct. I have absolutely no bias here and even less local knowledge. I am seeking the fastest and safest way to SMA and no travel at night. I've been told that GDL to SMA should be a 4-5 hour trip. We need to be in SMA Sunday evening as we have rented a condo and start Spanish lessons on Monday.

The idea of overnighting in Ajijic is one I have been eyeing as it looks close by to the airport and I have done a lot of research on the Lake area. In fact, we have reservations for a week in Ajijic following our visit to SMA. If we overnight in Ajijic, it looks like the shortest route would be East along the lake road to #35, then #35 SE to La Bacca, then the road through Yurecuaro to La Piedad?

Earl


Bubba

Oct 21, 2006, 9:24 PM

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Earl:

The drive to La Piedad from the airport along Autopista 15 toward Mexico City through Guadalajara is not at all complicated You don´t even enter the city but turn right south of town in a relatively uncongested area. You do not want to head toward San Juan de Los Lagos or Lagos De Marino at all. Even though you can get to San Miguel from there by going through Guanajuato, this is a huge mistake. The roads up there are country roads and will add considerable time to your journey.

Remember this:

Highway 15 from Guadalajara to the La Piedad turnoff is an excellent freeway and nearly deserted.
The road from La Piedad to Irapuato is excellent and almost all new four lane high speed highway.
The freeway from Irapuato ( which you totally bypass unless you wish to stop there) to Celaya is an excellent toll road. Do not even think of going on the free road.
From Celaya to San Miguel is a cakewalk although the road is not that great. It is straight and easily driven.

I think it is a damn good idea to drive the 30 minutes south to the Ajijic area to spend the night and set out in the morning. If you do that, when you leave Ajijic, drive back toward the airport and take the La Barca exit toward Ocotlan and turn left to Autopista 15 where you will turn right toward DF and the La Piedad exit. When you get to Ocotlan, there is no sign. You want to turn left toward Autopista 15 soon after the huge Celanese campus on your left. If you find yourself in Ocotlan Centro you missed it. Just turn around and try again.

Have fun.


(This post was edited by Bubba on Oct 21, 2006, 9:26 PM)


jerezano

Oct 22, 2006, 8:02 AM

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Hello Bubba and EarlA

Bubba, your last post was exactly what EarlA and I both needed. I knew there was a shorter and better way from San Miguel Allende to Ajijic but I was never able to find it. That long bight from Querétaro up through León to Lagos de Moreno and back to Guadalajara on the main cuota always set my teeth on edge. Not because the driving was tough, it was not. It just seemed like so much gasoline and time wasted to go all those extra miles.

My next trip I will try your route.

Adiós. jerezano.
 
 
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