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quevedo

Aug 31, 2006, 9:57 AM

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A recent trip / Viaje reciente

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Hace poco hice un viajecito de varios días por el sureste mexicano, especialmente Chiapas. Llegué en carro hasta el Usumacinta. Del otro lado del gran río, Guatemala. Cuatro mil kilómetros de ida y vuelta y muchas cosas que ver.

Recently I traveled Mexico´s Southeast, especially Chiapas, for several days. I drove down to the Usumacinta. On the other side of the great river, Guatemala. Four thousand kilometers round trip and many things to see.

La foto muestra el Cañón del Sumidero, visto desde La Atalaya, un mirador a donde se puede llegar por una estrecha y sinuosa carreterita. Pero vale la pena la vista.

The picture shows the Sumidero Canyon as seen from La Atalaya, a viewpoint accessed by a narrow and winding little road. But the sight is well worth the trip.

I'd like to use this thread as a translation practice. I may post in English or Spanish and then we do the translation job.

Comments welcome in both languages.

Saludos turísticos,

Quevedo

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quevedo

Aug 31, 2006, 10:02 AM

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Re: [quevedo] And from down below / Y desde abajo

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Desde el río el cañón es más impresionante todavía. El paseo en lancha bien vale la pena.

A question. Does anyone know why this canyon is called "Sumidero"?

Saludos,

Quevedo

quevedo

Aug 31, 2006, 10:08 AM

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Re: [quevedo] A not so friendly inhabitant of the river

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Pasamos muy cerca de esta belleza, que tomaba el sol en la playa.

We saw several crocodiles as this one as we moved along the river. A big, scary beast.

Saludos,

Quevedo

jerezano

Sep 1, 2006, 2:04 PM

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Re: [quevedo] And from down below / Y desde abajo

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Hola

sumidero.
1. m. Conducto o canal por donde se sumen las aguas.

Adiós. jerezano.

quevedo

Sep 1, 2006, 2:24 PM

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Re: [jerezano] ¡Excelente!

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Very good. But, why that particular canyon a Sumidero?

Saludos hasta Jerez de García Salinas,

Quevedo

doogie

Sep 1, 2006, 8:08 PM

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Re: [quevedo] ¡Excelente!

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Saludos Quevedo, Me parece que sumidero se podría traducir como sink hole. En tus bellas fotos el sumidero que yo veo es la boca de ese cocodrilo. Ojalá usaste lente telescópico para tomar esa foto.

doogie
Doogie,
Tapatío de corazón

sfmacaws

Sep 2, 2006, 2:35 AM

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Hay una presa arriba de este barranca, ¿se llama 'sumidero' porque drena la presa? Visité esta barranca hace varios años. Se ha dicho que ahora hay muchos de basura en ellos. ¿Encontrase eso verdad?

Dicen que Mayans saltó de estos acantilados más bien que sea conquistado por el español. El cuadro arriba está de la boca de la barranca. Es el símbolo para el estado de Chiapas.

I admit I ran my post through google translator to see if it came out more or less as I meant it. That brought up a question for me. While one would think that cañon means canyon, google says it is barranca and I remembered that the canyon outside of Guadalajara is called a barranca as well.

Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán

quevedo

Sep 2, 2006, 10:32 AM

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Not so long, the telephoto. That particular sink hole came to be pretty close to our launch.

Saludos,

Quevedo

jerezano

Sep 3, 2006, 11:32 AM

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Hello,

Barranca is a feminine form of barranco.

barranco.
(De or. (inc., quizá prerromano).[origin perhaps pre-roman]
1. m. Despeñadero[cliff], precipicio[precipice].
2. m. Quiebra profunda producida en la tierra por las corrientes de las aguas o por otras causas.
3. m. Dificultad o estorbo en lo que se intenta o ejecuta.
4. m. Pan. Borde en pendiente de un terreno.
salir alguien del ~.
1. fr. Desembarazarse de una grave dificultad o librarse de un gran trabajo.

cañón means cannon. Un cañonazo--a salvo of 21 guns or a gun salute.

Adiós. jerezano.

mariejosee

Sep 4, 2006, 2:55 PM

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Re: [quevedo] And from down below / Y desde abajo

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Fue escenario de la batalla entre españoles y chiapanecas que dio origen a la leyenda que cuenta que los indígenas prefirieron lanzarse a las profundidades del cañón antes de ser sojuzgados por los invasores.

http://www.mundochiapas.com/turismo/bnaturales/csumidero.html

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quevedo

Sep 5, 2006, 10:33 AM

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Re: [jerezano] But also...

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cañón.

10. m. Paso estrecho o garganta profunda entre dos altas montañas, por donde suelen correr los ríos.

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"Narrow pass or deep gorge between two high mountains, where usually rivers run by."

Saludos,

Quevedo

quevedo

Sep 6, 2006, 1:36 PM

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Sumidero: Duct or canal draining water, as Sr. Jerezano explained, or sink hole, as defined by friend Doogie. The canyon is called Sumidero because the river seemed to be swallowed down when entering the gorge. In the early eighties a dam was erected downriver: the waters raised inside the canyon, the river became navigable and the cañón a sumidero no more.

Yes, there is a basura problem in El Sumidero during the rain season. Fortunately for me, when I was there that was not to be seen. Federal and local governments are displaying important cleaning efforts with the help of the Mexican Army. Thing is, the Grijalva, the river inside the canyon, has many tributaries. Cities and towns along the route irresponsibly pollute the waters. No cleaning effort will produce permanent positive effects if people keep dumping garbage in the waterways. Education, education!

Saludos cordiales,

Quevedo

Bloviator

Sep 7, 2006, 7:36 AM

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Re: [quevedo] A recent trip / Viaje reciente

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I very much appreciate the translation practice aspect that Quevado has introduced. If others would also include translation, it would be very helpful for those wanting to get the benefit of the Spanish/English aspect he introduced.