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javawaveC

Aug 15, 2006, 9:15 PM

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We were just watching TV news and wondering if there's a safety issue travelling down 15 to PV with a cargo trailer-- given the political controversy that's going on--we've been advised to stay away from Los Mochis and Culican (and in between) bec of other "issues"-- We're leaving CA probably @ the 1st of Sept--got our menaja casa approved ---Thanks in advance, just wondering bec the tv news is kinda getting us concerrned??!! Just wondering if we need to be extra cautious?? Thanks, D & L



Bloviator

Aug 16, 2006, 6:04 AM

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To the best of my knowledge based on driving the route two times in the past week and four times in the last month, is that there is no more danger now than any other time. Though on the last trip we did run into an interesting election related sight.

Outside of Santa Ana traffic southbound was backed up quite a ways by a small group of marchers with Obredor (Thanks to Esperanza for the correction) signs. They were marching from somewhere north (I wish I knew where) to I suspect Mexico City. We passed them again on the south bound trip - many fewer -somewhere between Navajoa and Mazatlan. We also have seen more truck loads of soldiers on the road than usual, though the checkpoints seemed less heavily manned and less of a delay. In fact, thinking of it, the Mazatlan checkpoints were not manned when we went through at least once and they are always heavily manned.

The drive down is partiicularly pretty now, with greenery all along the way including the Sonoran Desert. Last week, we saw deer along the road above Hermosillo and a Javalina hustling down the median in the same area.

It's always a good idea to avoid Culiacan - I've been told this, but can't verify it as I don't go there. I am tempted now as I just saw the movie "Once Upon a Time In Mexico." Ridiculous plot, gorgeous Antonio Banderas and Selma Heyak, but lots of nice shots of Culiacan. It is reputed to be a center of the drug trade, but once again that is only what I have heard and can't verify personally. Further, it is off the main road and going there is a delay.

I have heard nothing about Los Mochis, but we don't stop there as we like other towns a lot better and it is a little off the road also. The streets are laid out so that it is very difficult to avoid traffic from cross streets. I find them dangerous for that reason. Really nice 100 year old restaurant - Mr. Edwards. The one hotel we have stayed in there, we do not recommend unless one is looking to replace his troop of trained cockroaches. These are big and aggressive.

Another town to avoid is Altar if you enter before Nogales. It is the jumping off point for border crossers. It is currently in a rather slow mode, probably because the desert is killing hot.

You don't say where you are starting from in California. That will determine some things. Also, do you have animals. That enters into the equation also.

The northern part of the drive is quite difficult for a trailer as there are no shoulders on a lot of the hiway. If you should veer off the driving surface, you are almost sure to have an upturned trailer and probably car also. The same applies to the area about 50 miles beyond Mazatlan to almost Tepic.(100 miles - 100 crosses for shrines). We always try to travel this stretch midday/midweek. Traffic is much lighter then and it is an easy drive. Anytime around the week-end the road is packed with Tapatios going from Guad to the beach or back at the end of the week-end. It is very difficult then.

We start in San Diego, usually mid day and usually go as far as Santa Ana/Magdelina. There are several clean, inexpensive, guarded small hotels on the southern outskirts of Santa Ana. Perhaps a little difficult parking for a trailer, but probably not - have never checked for that. Also, it depends on the hotel. This time we only got to Caborca and stayed at a nice place called El Camino with restaurant and bar. Clean, guarded, a little more than I expected cost wise ($700 pesos). Easy access for your trailer. Visible from the carretera midway through town.

After that the next logical overnight place is either Cuidad Obregon (lots of hotels/motels, but I stop at Navajoa and have no information) or Navajoa. In Navajoa, we have stayed often at the Best Western del Rio right on the river as you enter the north end of town. Clean, nice restaurant, usually it has cost $800, but this trip only $550 (Both in Pesos). Easy access for your trailer. Others recommend El Mayo on the south end of town. Was less expensive before del Rio lowered prices.

From there, the next overnight place is Mazatlan. Any hotel along the beach area is likely to be very difficult with a trailer. Parking is at a premium most places. Perhaps someone can recommend at place with good parking. Last trip (my wife flew down), I stayed at a $22 per night no tell motel. Clean, totally secure, obviously cheap. Watch out for the TV unless you are into really hard core porn. No parking for trailers. That is not the usual transportation of the clientele of such a place. They are good for travelers without trailers looking for good cheap secure (you get your own enclosed garage) lodging and for local couples looking for a short term, quiet place for recreation.

After Mazatlan, the only possible logical overnight stop would be Tepic. It is a difficult town to drive in with or without a trailer. We have stayed there in a good hotel away from the central city (unfortunately it was two years ago and we haven't found it again), but most of the recommended hotels are in the plaza area and probably impossible for a trailer. Perhaps someone else has an idea for a good place to stop with a trailer.

Good luck on your trip.


(This post was edited by dlyman6500 on Aug 16, 2006, 9:45 AM)


bournemouth

Aug 16, 2006, 7:18 AM

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Dick - that's a very comprehensive post. I'll add to it that in Tepic right on the edge of the periferico just as you arrive in Tepic when heading south, there is the Hotel Bugamvillas - a good spot for overnighting without having to go into town. To get back on the periferico when leaving next morning, turn right, go half a block to the next traffic light and do a U turn back to the periferico.

We have overnighted in Los Mochis several times with no ill effects and have never felt uncomfortable there. Take the first Los Mochis exit when heading south, and within a few blocks you will start finding business man type hotels, ideal for an overnight. Finding one with a parking lot big enough for the trailer may be the only problem.


patricio_lintz


Aug 16, 2006, 9:07 AM

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When we stay in Mazatlan' we just parked our big Ford 4X4, loaded with all kinds of household goods right on the Malecon' in front of our hotel. We usually stay at the Cabinas al Mar on the old Malecon. We have parked (five times) there with a loaded pickup camper which doesn't even lock. No problems. The hotel is between $350 and $450 pesos per night and is un-airconditioned. However, you get two bedrooms a stove and a refrigerator. The hotel next door has air but no stove or refrig. in the single rooms. You really do not need a/c in Mazatlan at this time. Nights are cool.

We stayed at the a/c hotel.with our dog once, but had to leave at 6:30 in the a.m. before the day manager showed up. $50 pesos tip was offered for t6he dog and accepted. The only downer here is that if traffic keeps you awake, you may want to sleep in the inside bedroom.

A certain amount of security is given by the heavy traffic- all night. It would be easy to park a trailer there. You will.

We usually stay in Guaymas at the hotel Santa Rita on the left coming south into Guaymas. Lots of secure parking, but you would need to make a U-turn at the aeropuerto returno. In the morning, just head north to the cuota road and turn right (south).


javawaveC

Aug 16, 2006, 1:44 PM

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Thank you all very much for the detailed information about the trip--we will have to study the info along with the map--We are leaving from No. California--we thought about entering through Mexicalli but decided on Nogales bec we wanted to get directly on to 15 bec we weren't sure about the road to get to 15 from Mexicali--We do have 2 small pets (mini schnauzers)--a Ford Excursion and a 24' enclosed cargo trailer--My husband will be driving--Me and the schnauzers could fly down but decided it was best that he not make the trip alone--there's a possibility a spanish speaking buddy can go along with him--but since we can't absolutely count on that we're figuring out how to do this ourselves-We're pretty flexible about our travel dates end Aug--begining Sept we'd like to leave the Bay Area--Thanks again--Lucille & Dominic


Bloviator

Aug 16, 2006, 6:27 PM

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When yhou get your itinerary settled, send me a PM and I'll suggest a schedule that will provide you with places to stay that allow pets and will provide secure parking for your trailer. Decide when you will leave Nogales, how many miles you want to travel per day, and what sort of lodging budget you have.


Kimpatsu Hekigan


Aug 16, 2006, 6:28 PM

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bournemouth sez:

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...just as you arrive in Tepic when heading south, there is the Hotel Bugamvillas - a good spot for overnighting without having to go into town

If you stay at the Hotel Bugamvillas, be sure to bring earplugs if you're a light sleeper.

This place is located on a wedge-shaped piece of property at the intersection of two of Tepic's most heavily trafficked thoroughfares: Insurgentes and the Libramiento. Plus, the Libramiento is on a downgrade at that point and the noise from the constant stream of diesel trucks and buses using their engine brakes ("Jake brakes") all night long basically precludes any kind of decent sleep, even in one of the inside units.

Nice location and acceptable restaurant, but not worth losing a night's sleep for, IMHO...

FWIW,

-- K.H.


Before enlightenment: Chop wood, haul water.
After enlightenment: Chop wood, haul water.




bournemouth

Aug 16, 2006, 6:30 PM

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The air conditioner provided white noise for us but you are precise on the location and problems. However, when towing a trailer it would be a good stopping point.


sparks


Aug 16, 2006, 7:37 PM

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My pattern seems to be Nogales to Empalme, Empalme to Tepic ... and on to Vallarta. Sorry no help with pets. I've stayed a few times at a place in Tepic SE of town on the hyway headed towards the airport. Right next to a Pemex station, nice restaurant, large parking area, looks like a no-tell-motel but isn't (and can't remember the name). I didn't like the Compostella route from the center of Tepic because it's a busy free road, narrow, construction and lots of curves. I was almost run off the road by a semi dragging his trailer around a corner in my lane. There is a cheap toll road about 30 km south of Tepic off hyway 15 with little traffic that some call the Las Varas cut-off that I like much better.

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Bloviator

Aug 17, 2006, 6:01 AM

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Where do you stay in Empalme? We stay in Guaymas if we have dogs and San Carlos if not, but would like to know of a quick on and off place if we are arriving late and just want a place to sleep.

Also, has anyone had any experience with Topolobampo? I saw a brief report on it recently and it sounded interesting, but we asked people in Los Mochis about it previously and they said it would be a waste of time to go there. Are there any decent hotels there?


sparks


Aug 17, 2006, 6:36 AM

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Again I don't remember the name but just as you come into Empalme from the north there are 3 motels on the right. 2 large fancier ones and a more Mexican style in the middle. Right where the island between lanes stops and the undivided street thru town begins. The Mexican style was $300-350mx. All would have lots of parking.

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Goody2shs

Aug 17, 2006, 10:45 PM

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You forgot to mention the name of the hotel with the warrior cockroaches - could you please name it so we can avoid it on our trip in December? I have seen something in a catalog recently where you can suck such beasts into some type of vacuum tube and get rid of them. Do you think that would work? Also, hoping this is not too daring to mention on this forum - is there anything out there that could substitute for a missing toilet seat in case that should be necessary somewhere? I am one of those who would almost go so far as to bring my own - just think - that could be a money maker at one of those rest stops we saw on our last trip.


Ron Pickering W3FJW


Aug 17, 2006, 11:13 PM

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I have a brand new toilet seat I would be more than happy to donate to your cause. You have to pick it up though.

In my trip SoB I never ran across anyplace that didn't have a toilet seat. Bring a roll of TP though. That may come in handy.

Have a good trip.
Getting older and still not down here.

(This post was edited by Ron Pickering W3FJW on Aug 17, 2006, 11:14 PM)


sparks


Aug 18, 2006, 1:43 AM

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You'd be surprised how well the bare bowl does fit your rear end (a clean one of course) ... and I'm pretty thin. I had no choice in my $100 peso hotel room in Santa Maria del Oro, Jalisco ... the best hotel in town (of 2).

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Bloviator

Aug 18, 2006, 5:48 AM

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If it was the one in Los Mochis, I've managed to erase the name of the hotel from my mind. If it was in Guaymas, stay anyway. The cockroaches are just part of the wonderful ambiance of the hotel, built in 1936 by the Southern Pacific (?) railway as a major tourist facility. The share our animals' food and aren't the least bit greedy.

I'm trying to decide if the lack of toilet seats is the result of cheapness on the part of management or of theft. It would seem a little obvious to be leaving a bano with toilet seat in hand. We've considered traveling with one in our car. Of course, it is a much bigger problem for wife than for me.


javawaveC

Sep 24, 2006, 5:06 PM

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We made it to PV--thank you everyone for your info before the trip down--my husband towed our 25' trailer and he and all our belonging made it in one piece. He had all his paperwork in hand and was told at the border to go back and get a customs broker--He told the officer NO--5 times and waved our menaja casa and FM3 which we got from the consulate--it was pouring rain and there was no way he was going to go back---finally he got waved on and was on his way--He says he wouldn't want to make the trip again---although going back and towing the boat down is not out of the question. By the way there is a new hotel--a microhotel in Culican before town that's a good secure stop in case someone needs to stop in that area--He made it in 4 days from the SF Bay area--Me and the 2 schnauzers flew down--upgraded to first class--with the schnauzers in soft sided kennel bags which easily fit under the seat in front of me-- it was a pleasant trip, had all the puppies paperwork in order from my vet---then customs held us up for about 2 hours bec their rabies shots were over a year old. FYI--I was told Jalisco requires annual rabies shots--sooo my husband had to drive to a vets office and bring him to the airport to administer the shots--or else they were going to keep my "children" in customs!!!
We just got our computer and TV up and running and we are having alot of work done on our new casa here in Marina Vallarta--trying to get settled in but it's been one thing after another--plumbing, windows, air conditioner etc--and of course mango daquiris--and awesome lightning and thunder shows! Lucille & Dominic


sfmacaws


Sep 24, 2006, 5:16 PM

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Pet owners take note, I know I have mentioned it on here numerous times. Mexico and Central American countries require rabies shots annually, the US and Canada require them every 3 years. It's the same shot, just more often. Frankly, I'm amazed the airlines let you on with what Mexico considers an expired rabies vaccination.


Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán




esperanza

Sep 24, 2006, 5:44 PM

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I have posted this sentence more times than I can count:

If you are crossing the border with your belongings and a menaje de casa, you are required to have a customs broker.

Javawave, your husband was extremely lucky to be waved through on his fifth attempt.




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javawaveC

Sep 24, 2006, 6:03 PM

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To clarify--he made only one attempt--he just said No several times bec he was tired from being on the road, there wasn't an area to turn his SUV + trailer around safely, it was pouring rain and he had read somewhere (I think on mexconnect-that customs brokers don't work with "small" 25' loads--as far as the pets on the airplane I had an international travel certificate from my vet which was sufficient for the airlines----I'd say--a little bit of luck and alot of perserverance
 
 
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