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zoeq1000


May 18, 2006, 1:13 PM

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Ya has confused me ever since I've heard of it. I've been told it means "already." But then I've heard it in phrases where something hasn't yet been done but just thought about?



mariejosee


May 18, 2006, 1:33 PM

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It also means "now".
Ya te lo dije... I've already told you.
Ya voy ... I'm coming (now)
Ya entiendo ... Now I get it.



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Rolly


May 18, 2006, 2:49 PM

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I am told that "ya no" is also an idiom meaning "no longer."

So, are these statements true?

Ya no hey. = Now there are none.

Ya no hey aqui. = Now there are none here. OR They are no longer here.

Rolly Pirate


doogie

May 18, 2006, 4:06 PM

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Re: [Rolly] Ya no hay

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Well, even though I just got home from work and my brain is a little fuzzy, I will try to wiegh in on this. Ya is generally used to imply immediacy, and is over-used a lot.
The difference between No Hay, "There isn't any" and Ya no hay is that the Ya implies that there once was some but now there isn't, the same with Ya no hay aquí, there once was some here but now there no longer is.
In the examples MarieJosee gives, leave the Ya off and they mean the same.
Doogie,
Tapatío de corazón


doogie

May 18, 2006, 4:21 PM

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Sorry, I think I left the last sentence out of my previous. I meant to say that the Ya in the examples is commonly used to imply "Now". So for now: Ya me voy.
Doogie,
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quevedo

May 18, 2006, 6:39 PM

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ya.
(Del lat. iam).

1. adv. t. Denota el tiempo pasado. Ya hemos hablado de esto más de una vez.
2. adv. t. Inmediatamente, ahora mismo. U. t. en sent. enfático. Aumento de salarios, ya.
3. adv. t. En el tiempo presente, haciendo relación al pasado. Era muy rico, pero ya es pobre.
4. adv. t. En tiempo u ocasión futura. Ya nos veremos. Ya se hará eso.
5. adv. t. Finalmente o últimamente. Ya es preciso tomar una resolución.
6. adv. t. Luego, inmediatamente. U. cuando se responde a quien llama. Ya voy. Ya van.
7. adv. t. U. como conjunción distributiva. Ya en la milicia, ya en las letras. Ya con gozo, ya con dolor.
8. adv. t. U. para conceder o apoyar lo que nos dicen. Ya entiendo. Ya se ve.

pues ~.
1. loc. conjunt. Por supuesto, ciertamente. U. m. en sent. irón.

que ya ya.
1. expr. coloq. U. para enfatizar lo que se acaba de decir.

si ~.
1. loc. conjunt. siempre que. Haré cuanto quieras, si ya no me pides cosas impropias de un hombre de bien.

ya.
1. interj. coloq. U. para denotar que se recuerda algo o que se cae en ello, o que no se hace caso de lo que se nos dice. U. repetida, y de esta manera expresa también idea de encarecimiento en bien o en mal.

~ mero.
1. loc. adv. Méx. En seguida, en un momento más.

~ que.
1. loc. conjunt. Una vez que, aunque, dado que. Ya que tu desgracia no tiene remedio, llévala con paciencia.
2. loc. conjunt. Porque, puesto que. Ya que lo sabes, dímelo.

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ya.
(From Latin iam).

1. adverb. t. Denotes past tense. We have talked about this more than once.
2. adverb. t. Inmediatly, right now. Used in an emphatic sense. Salary increase, now!
3. adverb. t. In present tense, in relation to past. He was very rich, but now he is poor.
4. adverb. t. In future time or ocassion. We will see each other. It will be done.
5. adverb. t. Finally or lately. It is imperative to make a decision.
6. adverb. t. Right now, inmediately. Used when responding to one who calls. I'm coming. They're on their way.
7. adverb. t. Used as a distributive conjunction. Either in the Military, either in Literature. Either in joy, either in pain.
8. adverb. t. Used to concede or agree with what we are being told. I understand. I see.

pues ya.
1. Of course, certainly. Used in ironical sense.

que ya ya.
1. Idiom used to emphasize what it have just been said.

si ya.
1. if. I'll do all you want, if you stop asking me improper things.

ya.
1. Colloquial interjection. Used to denote that something is remembered or understood, or that we don't pay attention to what it is being said to us. Repeated several times to convey the idea of importance, for good or not.

ya mero.
1. Méx. In a minute, in a moment.

ya que.
1. Once that, although, since. Since your disgrace is unavoidable, suffer it patiently.
2. Because, since. Since you know it, tell me.


Saludos a todas y todos, ya.

Quevedo

(This post was edited by quevedo on May 18, 2006, 9:25 PM)


bunny

May 18, 2006, 7:47 PM

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Re: [quevedo] Ya no hay

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This is a SUPER helpful thread toward permeating/incorporating colloquial Spanish. I think I need a few years to absorb the properties of this one small word!! But thanks (Quevedo, especialamente)!

Gretchen
 
 
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