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Bloviator

Apr 2, 2006, 6:27 AM

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Ixtlahualco (?)

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Does anyone have information about the pueblo just over the hill from Chapala - Ixtlahualco (?). It seems to me that living there would be quite inexpensive, very convenient to all gringo goodies, close to Guad, and really Mexican for those who want to live among Mexicans? Are there gringos living there? Is there appropriate housing? Do they have a tiangis? Sorianos is about five to ten minutes away, but do they have decent places for fruits and vegetables, etc.

Georgia

Apr 2, 2006, 8:05 AM

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Re: [dlyman6500] Ixtlahualco (?)

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Ixtlahuacan: some very decent shopping, some fraccionamientos, I've know folks who have lived it there and loved it. Slightly different weather from the other side of the mountain. Of course, no lake. All a matter of choice. But, yes, I notice the property values are generally lower there.

Of course, if you want to live there, you do need to learn how to pronounce it!!!! (Spelling correctly is always optional.)

1ajijic

Apr 2, 2006, 8:39 AM

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Re: [dlyman6500] Ixtlahualco (?)

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We have a friend who is building a house there. One has to be very careful about title as there are many issues. Some lots have been sold repeatedly. Also, it is quite a bit warmer and dryer there. There is more room, a nice little village center, lower prices and fewer gringos.
http://www.newbeginningsmexico.com

kittythegm

Apr 2, 2006, 9:07 AM

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Ixtlahuacan?

We are property owners in Ixtlahuacan and much of what you say is correct. Yes property is less expensive but one has to be carefull on thae area due to water issues. We have a home for sale in Villas Lomas (private development just below the the highway on the hill above the village) and we enjoyed our 8 years of property ownership. No water issues -easy access to GDL & the Lake for shopping, restaurants, etc. The development is a mix of Gringos (US & Canadian) and Mexicans (primarily 2nd homes for people from Guadalajara).

I will PM info on the house to give your some idea.

jaybear

Apr 2, 2006, 6:17 PM

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Re: [kittythegm] Ixtlahualco (?)

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Okay, how DO you pronounce Ixtlahualco? I guess it is the first 2 letters that have me flummoxed. And is the accent on the first and third syllables?

Reminds me of when I was first in New England and had to drive to Scituate; got lost and embarassed myself asking for "shi-TOOT."
"Don't believe everything you think" - Maxine

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Bloviator

Apr 3, 2006, 6:24 AM

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Re: [Georgia] Ixtlahualco (?)

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Thanks for all the information - especially the correct spelling. I think I have the pronunciation down pretty well. The man who did the termite work for our house in Fallbrook CA was from Ixtlahuacan (Is that it?). He spent a patient half hour trying to correct my pronunciation. Unfortunately for me, the reason I'm asking this question is that someone on Chapala.com sent me a private message wanting information. Now I have to try to get all your wisdom correctly passed on to her.

Georgia

Apr 3, 2006, 6:47 AM

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Re: [kittythegm] Ixtlahualco (?)

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The pronunciation is sort of : ish-la-wa-can. (stress at the end) The x sound here is not really Spanish, and is a fussy "s" pronounced further back and to the side in the mouth than our English frontal "s" sound. But that very technical explanation really doesn't matter. Just try the pronunciation suggested and you will be readily understood.

kittythegm

Apr 3, 2006, 1:05 PM

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Not to question your knowledge Georgia but we were given a slightly different pronunciation: Ixt-la-hua-can. This would be pronouncing the x&t. Of course this came from the developer, who built our home. He was of Spanish decent and his Spanish was often different from the Mexican Spanish. I guess that if one gets it close - people will generally know what you mean.

johanson

Apr 3, 2006, 3:22 PM

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I am not an expert either. But the way I learned to say it from folks who live there was as Georgia said. But note those persons do not speak Spanish which makes me question the accuracy of their pronunciation of the village.

As I recollect though Georgia, has lived in various Latin American countries and speaks Spanish. So my vote is with her version of the pronunciation of the village

kittythegm

Apr 3, 2006, 3:44 PM

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Votes go to Georgia!

I guess I learned wrong!

johanson

Apr 3, 2006, 6:31 PM

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Yes she is right. I asked someone else who speaks Mexican Spanish and has lived in Ajijic since 1994, and he confirmed her pronunciation.

sfmacaws

Apr 3, 2006, 7:40 PM

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My guess is that the name is not spanish but an indigenous language and that the x is pronounced differently in that language. In mayan an x has an ish sound not the ix sound it has in spanish. I think the spaniard was pronouncing it as if it were spanish and Georgia knows how it is really pronounced.

Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán

johanson

Apr 3, 2006, 8:27 PM

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I clicked on the icon below to see where you are at, Jonna. I have enjoyed watching your location as you have traveled throughout the US and Mexico. When was it, last summer, when you were in northwest WA? That is a cool icon that all of you should try. Well anyway, the guy I asked about how to pronounce the word above, had been working just north of you for two months in Playa del Carmen. And just got back a week ago. He said it was terribly hot there. And I guess it would be for someone like me from way up North. How hot is it there?

Here in Ajijic the temperatures have taken quite a jump in the last week. Although the daytime tempuratures are still only in the mid to upper 80s, the night time temperatures are increasing from a low of about 64 to a low of 68 F in the last few days. At 10 PM, the outdoor temperature was 79 F with a humidity of 22 % here on the upper slopes of Ajijic.

sfmacaws

Apr 3, 2006, 9:27 PM

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Wow! It's warmer there right now. It is 70° and 70% humidity at 11pm here. We are right on the beach though and there is a pretty cold (to me) wind blowing from the north. It was warm today, I was out and about but I'm guessing it was only about 85° even so. It is not the temp that makes it feel hot around here, it is the humidity and that has been high. I have been kind of amazed at how cool it has been through March and several people who live here year around have also commented that it should be hotter by now. There have been several 3 or 4 day stretches of norte winds which are generally much cooler and generally don't happen this late in the season. In between the nortes we've had some really strong onshore winds, hot and up to about 30mph. That speed is a real guess but Mimi came up with it and she is usually pretty good at guessing wind speed - probably from growing up in Colorado!

I was in Playa most of the day today and I was stepping into the shade when possible, so it was hot. I noticed the guys working on the road and felt a pang for them out in the sun. If your friend was working anywhere in the sun or away from the beach, he is right that it was hot. It just isn't that hot in temperatures. Plus, you are right that a lot is what you are used to. I noticed the heat more when we first got back from Guatemala and Chiapas, all that time at high altitude and cooler air. Course, I also noticed the sea level and the abundance of oxygen and was really happy.

We are leaving in a few days heading north, I probably won't be able to update our location until we get across the border as we are not going to stop for long. Once I can use my cell phone for internet again I'll start updating it daily.

Glad you like the datastorm map, it's a great service from the guy who owns the forum. He publishes an animated view once or twice a year that shows all the little icons marching north for the summer and south for the winter.

Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán