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johanson


Jan 5, 2006, 10:45 AM

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Sadly we were mentioned because the Father of one of our most well known charactors was picked up by Mexican authorities and is about to be deported to the US. For more information about Art March go to http://www.wsmv.com/

sfmacaws


Jan 5, 2006, 11:08 AM

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Heh! Personally, I'm experiencing shadenfreud. Hopefully the Karma Gods are awake and on the move.

Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán

esperanza

Jan 5, 2006, 5:04 PM

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Oooooh, what a good word! I'm taking bets that this is the first time shadenfreud has been used in a post on MexConnect. The perfect word!




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DavidMcL


Jan 5, 2006, 5:18 PM

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Using the search for both the site and the Forums - you are very correct. It is the first time! And a good word it is! Thanks!

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jennifer rose

Jan 5, 2006, 5:43 PM

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Might you be referring to schadenfreude?

sfmacaws


Jan 5, 2006, 6:12 PM

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Yup! I knew I should have looked up the spelling before I wrote it, but I was lazy. I can pronounce it, does that count?

It's a great word. A fantastic word. Those germans have some good stuff hidden in their language.

Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán

esperanza

Jan 5, 2006, 6:54 PM

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Jonna's spelling looked a little off to me too, so I Googled it for accuracy. There were lots of hits for shadenfreud and no Google hint at the top of the page...Did you mean schadenfreude?

Either Jonna's version is an alternate spelling or Google doesn't know how to spell it either. Whichever way, it's still the perfect word.




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Marlene


Jan 5, 2006, 8:49 PM

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And now that I have looked it up and know what it means, I discovered that schadenfreude was Word of the Day on May 10, 2000. (click on date) Thanks Jonna, brilliant!


(This post was edited by Marlene on Jan 5, 2006, 8:51 PM)

Chumley

Jan 6, 2006, 5:38 AM

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And the word was recently used in a "Boston Legal" TV episode in a summation by the lawyer for the defense.

N2Futur

Jan 6, 2006, 8:14 AM

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One more correction: it's Schadenfreude, with a capital S......

Elke
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ms mac

Jan 6, 2006, 11:11 AM

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This English major learned something today. Thanks!
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Miguel Palomares


Jan 6, 2006, 5:29 PM

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I simply must take issue with those of you salivating over this word, thinking it is such a great word.

It is not.

Any word that is unknown to 99 percent of the population (outside Germany) is useless. Words are for communication.
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Bloviator

Jan 6, 2006, 8:15 PM

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Read it today in Jonathan Kellerman's recent book, Therapy.

NEOhio1


Jan 9, 2006, 4:15 PM

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Yep, thats the last place I saw it too.

Ed and Fran

Jan 11, 2006, 5:59 AM

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One more correction: it's Schadenfreude, with a capital S......

Elke


Just out of curiosity, what's the reason behind the capitalization? It wouldn't normally occur to an English speaker to capitalize it as it seems to be just a common noun, not a proper noun.


Curious Ed

Bubba

Jan 11, 2006, 6:46 AM

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Just a grammar rule, all comoon names are capitalized in German.
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N2Futur

Jan 11, 2006, 8:00 AM

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Brigitte is correct. We have some weird rules - here's a website that explains is better:

http://german.about.com/library/weekly/aa020919a.htm

Simplified: Anytime you can use ("der", "die", "das") in front of a word (in english there's only one word for the same use: "the"), you capitalize, i.e. der Mann (the man), die Frau (the woman), das Kind (the child), die Schadenfreude... However, there are some exceptions. (One of the resasons why hubby gave up on learning the language, just too darn complicated.)

der (male), die (female), das (undetermined) - I do believe the spanish language has a similar use of words, but no capitalization? (los, las, el, la, etc....)

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Gringal

Jan 11, 2006, 2:26 PM

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It could be said that the word means, essentially, "Good Grief" !

song_of_joy

Jan 11, 2006, 9:03 PM

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Out of curiosity, I ran it through Webster's and, apparently it's been adopted into the English language with a lower case "s."

lrnav

Jan 12, 2006, 6:01 AM

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Definitions of Schadenfreude on the Web:
  • a most un-politique joy at a colleague’s misfortune For example: A fellow performer has flubbed a note, gained weight, fallen out of favour with a conductor, etc. Such gloating no longer occurs, really….
    www.melbournecityopera.com.au/Glossary/glossary.htm
  • [n. SHAW-den-froy-duh] Taking malicious satisfaction in another person's troubles is schadenfreude. Even though there may be some guilt involved, this noun comes in handy when someone feels glee or gloats over another person's suffering. Example: "She had a feeling of schadenfreude when the boy who dumped her was unable to find a date for the prom." Sometimes capitalized, schadenfreude is a compound of two German words: schaden (damage) and freude (joy). ...
    www.geocities.com/kristenjean77/coolwords.html
  • delight in another person's misfortune
    wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
  • Schadenfreude is a German expression (from Schaden: damage, harm; and Freude: joy) meaning pleasure taken from someone else's misfortune or shameful joy. The word is often capitalized, however since all German nouns (proper or common) are capitalized it should be possible to spell it lower case in English.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

Find definitions of Schadenfreude in: English German Portuguese all languages

Bloviator

Jan 12, 2006, 6:20 AM

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A spelling rule. Common is not spelled comoon. You should have also taken my College Spelling class. Yes, I taught spelling in a community college. Scary isn't it.

sillyzoe


Feb 11, 2006, 9:07 PM

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I simply must take issue with those of you salivating over this word, thinking it is such a great word.

It is not.

Any word that is unknown to 99 percent of the population (outside Germany) is useless. Words are for communication.

i agree.....what a pretentious word....i suppose it suits the sentiment it describes.
all in all my vote is for concise words that say what they mean...simply
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pipjane


Feb 12, 2006, 7:58 AM

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Schadenfreude really does say what it means! It's a great word for which we don't have a direct equivalent in English. I'm British and in England this is not an uncommon word. Any reasonably well-educated person should have come across it as it's quite often used in the media. The English language is a bastard language after all - made up of an incredible mixture of loan words from other languages so we should not find a German word so unusual. Perhaps, as this is a Mexican forum, we might have a similar discussion about words we've adopted from the Spanish language.

Rolly


Feb 12, 2006, 8:43 AM

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Dlyman said "I taught spelling in a community college. Scary isn't it."

Well, I took a remedial spelling class in college and failed it. That's even more scary. Thank the Lord for spell checkers.

Rolly Pirate

Gringal

Feb 12, 2006, 9:00 AM

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Anytime a single word in any language substitutes for a string of words, it's a "good" word. For example, that lovely word "schlepp" has no English one-word substitue. I'm enjoying a bit of Shadenfreude over some current political foulups. To express that in plain English would take a paragraph. Viva to more colorful speech!
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