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Anonimo

Dec 10, 2005, 3:25 PM

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Wedding Fiesta in Mexico: next door!

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Our front yard (a field) has maybe 50 vehicles parked in it. There are maybe 300 people in attendance. Little boys and girls and their papás are dressed in sartorial finery.
Next door, the monotonous canned music has ceased, Now we have a live band!

It appears that there's a wedding party next door, and they are just getting warmed up.
Right now, it's delightful, but we have gotten out the heavy duty earplugs in readiness for tonight.

Saludos,
Anonimo

Miguel Palomares

Dec 10, 2005, 3:51 PM

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Welcome to Mexico. Be aware that they will not give the proverbial tinker's damn if they keep you up all night. It is all about them.
From Tzurumutaro, Michoacan, "The Village of the Darned."
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The nuts and bolts of moving to Mexico:
http://michaeldickson.blogspot.com/
The dark side of living in Mexico:
http://mexicopeeks.blogspot.com/
Scintillating life in a Mexican pueblo:
http://tzurumutaro.blogspot.com/
http://tzurumutaro2.blogspot.com/

Anonimo

Dec 10, 2005, 4:52 PM

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It is all about them.

But, Michael, it IS all about them! I can sleep in the daytime. I am retired. Anyway, I have Tony Trischka and his progressive bluegrass group playing into earphones from iTunes.

Saludos,
Anonimo

esperanza

Dec 10, 2005, 6:05 PM

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Bravo, Anónimo, excellent answer.

http://www.mexicocooks.typepad.com

TlxcalaClaudia

Dec 10, 2005, 6:21 PM

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Ahhhhhh, someone who is fine with it the way it is.

*sweet*

Claudine

jerezano

Dec 10, 2005, 7:02 PM

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Hello All,

That's what I like about living in a small town. Here in Zacatecas my neighbors never think about having a fiesta without asking me. But then I am rapidly approaching the high status of being the oldest man in town. That carries weight down here in Mexico.

Adios. jerezano.

manda405

Dec 10, 2005, 7:20 PM

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Why not put on your Sunday Best and join them!! I mean, they are using your "yard" as their parking lot. Besides, if you don't go, they might think you think you are too good for them.
Is is a mariachi or a banda? Ask them if they take requests.

What happens down in Mexico...Stays in Mexico.

Anonimo

Dec 10, 2005, 7:36 PM

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I didn't say it was *fine*. I meant that it's "understandable".
I have been quite ill all week, and had just started to feel better. Sleep was scarce in the past week. Now, even with my Magnum Industrial Strength Boilermaker's Moldable Flexible Ear Plugs, I can hear the band's music. I can feel their playing vibrating the wooden uprights of our casita.
They are the " Los Indefatigables", or maybe really "Los Intocables"*, but better, "Los Inescapables"??

But, I have to confess, they do play well.

* A good play on words, for it may mean both "The Untouchables", but it might also mean "The Unplayables".

Saludos,
Anonimo

Anonimo

Dec 10, 2005, 7:47 PM

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It's a banda.
Our situation here is a bit peculiar. We don't know our nearest neighbor outside the compound.

I suppose that, if we had wished to invite ourselves, we might have with no problem.

We are also, see above or below "unwell".

The band has stopped! :-) But it''s only 9:45 PM. They must be on a break. :-(

Saludos,
Anonimo

Anonimo

Dec 10, 2005, 7:51 PM

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Too late, but I thought of fleeing for the night, to a refuge in the upper piso of your Casa Palomares, far, far from the pounding rhythms and burbling melodies of the band.
But, chalk it up to "new experience".

Next time, get the spare room ready. Thanks!

Saludos,
Anonimo

Miguel Palomares

Dec 11, 2005, 8:11 AM

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Ah, so my cranky take on the situation turned out to be the right one. Yet again. I never cease to be flabbergasted at the stratospheric disregard for other people in Mexico.
From Tzurumutaro, Michoacan, "The Village of the Darned."
_______________________________________

The nuts and bolts of moving to Mexico:
http://michaeldickson.blogspot.com/
The dark side of living in Mexico:
http://mexicopeeks.blogspot.com/
Scintillating life in a Mexican pueblo:
http://tzurumutaro.blogspot.com/
http://tzurumutaro2.blogspot.com/

Gringal

Dec 11, 2005, 8:25 AM

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....But on the other hand, since when did people in the U.S. give a dang about their neighbors' comfort when they threw a big party? Seems the "consideration" kicked in about the time the police arrived.

Miguel Palomares

Dec 11, 2005, 8:30 AM

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Boy, Ms. Gringal, you obviously lived in Mexican neighborhoods up north. I have never, ever, in my life been bothered by someone else's party in the U.S. Never. Not once.

But I am a product of the Old South. We be polite, considerate, yassuh.

Wish some of that consideration for others would filter down into Mexicoland. Not holding my breath.
From Tzurumutaro, Michoacan, "The Village of the Darned."
_______________________________________

The nuts and bolts of moving to Mexico:
http://michaeldickson.blogspot.com/
The dark side of living in Mexico:
http://mexicopeeks.blogspot.com/
Scintillating life in a Mexican pueblo:
http://tzurumutaro.blogspot.com/
http://tzurumutaro2.blogspot.com/

Gringal

Dec 11, 2005, 8:49 AM

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Never lived in a Mexican neighborhood up Norte. Only lived in California, both urban and rural environments. You just haven't lived until you've lived next door to a wild party in San Francisco, Marin or Santa Cruz. Better yet, your redneck neighbors' cockfight in rural Sonoma County. Maybe Californians are just plain ruder than you genteel southerners.

Bubba

Dec 11, 2005, 9:06 AM

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Sorry, Gringal, t'ain't so. As a denizen of both the deep south and that area of Northern California you mentioned, I can assure you southern rednecks can be as rude and dangerous as western rednecks. I know what Miguel is trying to say but don't you be askin' no southern crack head to be turnin' down the volume unless you be accompanied by your 12 gauge, a big ole dog and about 15 of your favorite deranged and violent cousins one of whom, at least, should be a deputy sheriff.

As for Mexico; the notion of perhaps holding down the noise a bit does not even exist so it is best not to confuse the issue by bringing it up.

gpk

Dec 12, 2005, 8:52 AM

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Anonimo is new to Mexico--everything is still "cute".

julian3345

Dec 12, 2005, 9:01 AM

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I frequently ask the waiter or clerk to turn down the TV or CD volume in a restaurant or business- for example - at the cyber cafe I visit. Even very nicely decorated white tablecloth restaurants will sound like a sports bar with blaring accounts of soccer matches, etc. They always comply very nicely ...much more than in the US, for example, at a busy Starbucks where the barrista may be adorned not only with multiple earrings and tatoos, but also a surly attitude of entitlement and a fondness for heavy metal!

Oakland Ca and Alameda County have a "decibel" law which states very clearly a conservative, allowable level of ambient noise and the penalties for exceeding this comfort zone. I used this law occasionally to manage my tenants.

There must be such a law in the Denver area because one of my Mexican friends told me he is buying some beefier speakers for his pick-up from an uncle who discovered that he can only use them when he visits Mexico...in Denver he risks getting cited by the police! Joan

Rolly

Dec 12, 2005, 10:39 AM

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The best seafood places in my area has music so loud that I don't there anymore. Last time my friend and I went early; we were the only customers in the place. We asked them to turn down the music. After our second request, they turned down from painful to very unpleasant. Haven't been back since.

Rolly Pirate

sfmacaws

Dec 12, 2005, 11:02 AM

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I have a bumper sticker on the jeep, in english, that says 'If I wanted to listen to the crap coming out of your stereo I'd be sitting in your car'. I should have realized this but the effect is that when one of the Big Bass boys pulls up behind me and reads it, they immediately turn UP the volumne. What is amusing in Mexico is that I can tell who reads english as the same thing happens if they can read it. It was apparent in the north particularly, around Zacatecas and San Luis Potosi that many of the trucks with the huge bass speakers had a driver that reads english.

Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán

julian3345

Dec 12, 2005, 11:05 AM

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I usually say something like, --- Just while I'm here in your restaurant, could you please reduce the sound on the TV, etc. My friend and I have something important to discuss.--- so far, this has worked. Joan

gpk

Dec 12, 2005, 11:12 AM

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Yes, a request to lower the volume will often get the desired result--but you will be marked for life as a " XXXX gringo". About 95% of the time Mexicans simply do not complain--about anything.

Anonimo

Dec 12, 2005, 1:53 PM

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What really strikes me is not whether or not it was "cute", but the tendency of some other posters on this thread to project their opinions as mine.
What the wedding fiesta situation was, mostly, was damned aggravating to me, exhausting, and not at all beneficial to my recuperation from an illness. But neither do I condemn my neighbors as "inconsiderate" and by extension, Mexican culture as a whole as inconsiderate, nor was it "fine", not for my wife and me, not at all.
But I take the approach that short of leaving the house, and getting a hotel room, or, indeed, dropping in on Los Palomares, there was nothing to do but to wait it out. Let it run its course. And in the meantime, try to get some form or other of appreciation for the music. And, eventually, it stopped.

I suggest to those who have written to this thread that you might get to know me in person (Palomares does, at least) before presuming that you know my mind.

Saludos,
Anonimo

Bubba

Dec 12, 2005, 6:18 PM

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Anonimo:

If you and Miguel hate the "Village of the Darned" so much why don't you just pick up and leave? I know that Patzcuaro and its burbs are miserably cold and crowded places that are fun to visit but understandly unlivable. So, pack the old Lincoln and move to Uruapan and camp out in an avocado grove..

(This post was edited by jennifer rose on Dec 12, 2005, 6:29 PM)

Anonimo

Dec 12, 2005, 10:57 PM

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No, Bubba, you're reading me all wrong! I don't hate it here. I just realize it 's not perfect. Some things just have to be endured with a sense of humor. (Like your posts.) ;-)

I don't live in The Village of the Damned, like Miguel Palomares. I live in Upper Pátzcuaro, the Icebox of Pátzcuaro.

Saludos,
Anonimo

johnv

Dec 13, 2005, 5:58 PM

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It is very wise to investigate neighbors thoroughly before renting or buying here. I have had problems with neithbors most of my life, and not only here, and have been only truly happy when living without any. I am currently looking to buy "neighborless" property.

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