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Lavanda

Sep 18, 2005, 12:32 PM

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Re: [jerezano] FYI: Coches Chocolates and nationalization

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"Hello, Nothing younger than 1995 permitted.Adios. Jerezano."

Jerezano, isnt that the "normal" policy? If so, the amnesty
alternatively would allow cars younger than ten years. That is why any foreign auto entering the republica for tourist purposes requires a bond posted at aduana, but once it is more than ten years old, no bond is required.

Correct me, someone if I ma mistaken.

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Lavanda

Sep 18, 2005, 12:55 PM

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The reason the test is requird so often in Gto is because the city, and to a lesser extent the state, is shaped like a bowl (sorta like NOLA) but at a high altitude and there is not enough continual wind to blow all the nasty air away.

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esperanza

Sep 18, 2005, 2:22 PM

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Lavanda, you've gotten some erroneous information.

No car is required to post bond at the office of the Aduana upon coming into Mexico.

All vehicle owners, regardless of the age of the vehicle, are required to pay a temporary importation fee by using a credit card. That fee, payable to Hacienda (not Aduana), is approximately $30.00 USD and is non-refundable. Upon credit card payment, the owner receives a temporary importation sticker to affix to the windshield of the vehicle.

However, if the vehicle owner does not choose to pay with a credit card (or does not have a credit card), then he or she must pay a cash bond--usually several hundred dollars--to Hacienda. The cash bond is for the same temporary importation permit that the credit card user receives. The cash bond is refundable at the border within a limited time period, normally just a few months. At the time of refund, the car must be removed from Mexico. Some chocolates fall into this category: the cash bond was paid and forfeited, and the vehicle remained in Mexico.

When talking about the amnesty period for chocolates as well as other, legal vehicles, we are discussing the permanent nationalization of a vehicle with foreign license plates. After payment of a fee, the vehicle owner surrenders the foreign plates and is issued Mexican plates. As you said, this amnesty has always been confined to vehicles 10 years old or older. In this current amnesty, it applies to any vehicle model year 1995 or prior.

For example, a friend of mine who is a US citizen with an FM-3 visa brought his 1991 minivan into Mexico a number of years ago. His temporary importation vehicle sticker is still legal because his immigration status is up-to-date; his minivan is not a chocolate. However, he will nationalize his minivan during this amnesty so that he can sell it here in Mexico in the near future. Conversely, another friend (Mexican national) brought a station wagon into Mexico some years ago. Its temporary importation sticker expired six months after he came home to Mexico. That vehicle is indeed a chocolate. He'll be nationalizing it immediately.

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Rolly

Sep 18, 2005, 2:48 PM

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Esperanza, you have explained it very well. Thanks.

The 'bond' idea is a widely believed myth -- not a fact.

Rolly Pirate

Bear

Sep 18, 2005, 3:16 PM

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Thank you, Esperanza. Excellent explanation.

Lavanda

Sep 18, 2005, 4:25 PM

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Thanks esperanza,

The bond I meant was what you describe about the credit card. But the threat is/was that if you dont take the auto
BACKL into the US and surrender the holographic sticker, that they would charge you the whole amount of the taxes to import the vehicle and the car would still be "illegitimate".

I have been flying rather than driving into Mexico the last few times, so I was not aware that the nomenclature might have changed.

That was a mahvelous explanation, and I thanks you.

L

Lavanda, you've gotten some erroneous information.

No car is required to post bond at the office of the Aduana upon coming into Mexico.

All vehicle owners, regardless of the age of the vehicle, are required to pay a temporary importation fee by using a credit card. That fee, payable to Hacienda (not Aduana), is approximately $30.00 USD and is non-refundable. Upon credit card payment, the owner receives a temporary importation sticker to affix to the windshield of the vehicle.

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esperanza

Sep 18, 2005, 8:55 PM

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Lavanda, the information about the 'threat' of being charged the whole amount of the taxes to import the vehicle if it is not removed from Mexico is also erroneous.

There is no such threat, and I've never heard of any such action being taken.

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hoyafb95

Sep 18, 2005, 9:24 PM

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According to recent information, if you choose the bond vs. credit card, the bond is only forfeited if you do not inform Aduana within 10 days of receiving your proroga on your FM2-FM3 that you indeed have a renewal of your visa. I know the head person at Aduana who handles this.

If you used a credit card...you DO NOT...need to inform the Aduana (different from Banjercito).

In Mexico, D.F., you used to be able to get a new hologram every year. They stopped this practice in March of this year...and now heed to the rule...as long as your visa is up-to-date your car is up-to-date.

TomP

Sep 19, 2005, 9:54 AM

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Esperanza:
Would my 1995 Motorcycle be considered a passenger vehicle and therefor eligible under amnesty?

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ignacio

Sep 23, 2005, 12:18 PM

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The only thing I would add to your explanation is that the '10 years or older' is not quite correct, the chocolate cars being allowed this time are in the 10 to 15 years old ONLY range.

Paulus144

Oct 20, 2005, 7:50 AM

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I have searched the forums and I haven't seen this question addressed. I have an FM3 and an auto in Mexico. I´d like to buy a 13 year-old Jeep and bring it in as a second car. My intention is to nationalize it as soon as I can. Can I do this? How?

Rolly

Oct 20, 2005, 10:05 AM

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As long as you have an auto in Mexico, you cannot bring another.

Rolly Pirate

RickS

Oct 20, 2005, 10:39 AM

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Rolly, isn't there an 'exception' to this?? If Paulus144 is married, and the spouse is on the title to the jeep, then the spouse could bring the jeep in on his/her FM3. i.e. two married people can have two cars in Mexico if done the way... RIGHT?!?

Bubba

Oct 20, 2005, 12:01 PM

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This is not an exception to the one person one car. He cannot bring another one . His wife can bring one car too. No wife nocar.

Paulus144

Oct 20, 2005, 1:45 PM

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Thanks. You have just confirmed my suspicions.

julian3345

Oct 21, 2005, 8:06 PM

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I gather that the Mexican Federal Legislature has finally established a list of "Valores" and makes/models of cars that can be legalized in this amnesty (which was declared on the 21st August.) Has anyone seen this list published in a newspaper or online? Joan

Moisheh

Oct 22, 2005, 4:01 PM

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Update: Cars that are 1990 to 1995 can be imported. If the vehicles are here already (chocolates) the same rule applies. Any that are outside this range can be donated to the Hacienda or must be returned to the USA. Cars must be mfrd. in USA or Canada only.

song_of_joy

Oct 26, 2005, 11:07 AM

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I noticed in this morning's headlines (www.terra.com.mx) that the regularization program is getting under way in Monterrey.

julian3345

Oct 26, 2005, 11:49 AM

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Yes...it got underway yesterday here in Jerez, Zacatecas with long lines of every imaginable make and model of cars, even a stretch limousine! One guy from Aduana with a clipboard was assessing the value and providing documents for hundreds of car owners. Joan

ignacio

Oct 29, 2005, 11:12 AM

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Has anyone found how to "donate" an American vehicle to Hacienda ?

There was a discussion on one of the fora about this topic, and no one had been able to accomplish this "donation" nor could they find anyone in Hacienda or government that could give directions on how to do it.

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