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ncferret

Jun 23, 2005, 7:48 PM

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Pools in your backyard. Yes or No?

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Anyone want to share their experiences with owning a pool in their backyard?

I have friends that say they couldn't imagine living without a pool and others that want to backfill and garden :)



ignacio

Jun 27, 2005, 9:16 AM

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When we were living in California, before I retired and came to live in Veracruz, we had a backyard in ground swimming pool.

We had that pool for 22 years, while we owned the house; the new owners now, five years later have removed the pool and have a grass area there, go figure !

The pool required at least once a week vacuum and continual monitor and replenishing of the chemicals to maintain clarity and PH balance. I did that every Saturday morning, enjoyed it and took pride on having clear beautiful water to swim on. Some people would get tired of this weekly chore, specially in the fall, picking up all the tree leaves.

It costs a fair amount of money to put in a pool, and when you sell, at least in California, it increases your sales value, so I don't know why these people took out the pool. I can't ask them, for I no longer have their phone number, but I found out by looking at a satellite picture from USGS of my ex-home.


donwilliston


Jun 27, 2005, 11:04 AM

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Dave,

Ignacio said it all, he “enjoyed it (the work) and took pride on having clear beautiful water to swim”. My son has the same feeling. My kids have a beautiful pool and a very large garden area. Of course this pool, along with a large barbeque, a smoker, and a refrigerator on the patio attracts friends.

When I visit my kids it seems as though every weekend we’re off to the pool store to get something. I like to buy my grandchildren water toys – the pool store they go to has a large selection of water toys. I also like sitting in a deck chair, sipping a margarita, watching my son do the maintenance. He still has a lot of maintenance even though they have one of those automatic mouse-like things that scours the bottom and walls.

I also enjoy the parties and seeing the guests get pushed into the pool. Actually, I REALLY like their parties. And I like coming out at 3am and swimming naked. But I wouldn’t like to do the maintenance.

don





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Georgia


Jun 28, 2005, 7:40 AM

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Personally, having been bent, folded, spindled and mutilated as a 16 year old, I swim to stay fit and functional. A pool for me is a necessity .... one that I happen to enjoy as well! So, we have an inground, small, salt-water pool with a jet pump at one end that provides a swift current to swim against. Good workout. The pool is large enough for fun things like pool volleyball and general splashing around. It's solar heated, so it's nice and warm. We have a cover we roll over it to keep debris out. Maintenance is relatively simple because the pool is only about 25 feet long and 15 feet wide. Since we don't add chlorine, it's a more pleasant pool to maintain and to be in.

Having said that, not everyone likes to get in pools or swim or even to get wet. So, whether or not they increase the value of your property depends on the "pool" [yes, pun intended] of prospective buyers.

Comparing the construction experience here versus the pool construction we had in the US, the experience here Lakeside exceeded my expectations.


sandykayak


Jun 28, 2005, 10:16 AM

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salt-water..in the mountains?????? I've only heard of them when they're alongside the ocean. And the salt really stings my eyes, so I can't say it sounds very appealing.

I'm sure this is very stupid, but how and why? (you buy containers of salt granules?)

I guess the water isn't sparkling clear?
Sandy Kramer
Miami, Fla & El Parque


sfmacaws


Jun 28, 2005, 11:46 AM

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Most of the pools out here in the desert of California are called salt water pools although the water in them is no more salty than the water from the tap. It's a method of filtering and sterilizing them that doesn't use chlorine but salt. I can assure you that they are all sparkling and clear. I was wondering if the same method was used in MX. It's much preferable to that old chlorine smell from our youth.


Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán




Georgia


Jun 28, 2005, 1:26 PM

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Exactly, it's a salt water sanitizing system: no cholorine sting, crystal clear water, you use the same salt you use for your water softener, and it doesn't sting your eyes or turn them red. We love it.


sfmacaws


Jun 28, 2005, 1:37 PM

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Mainly I remember the joys of green hair when I was young and blond. I do feel a bit nostalgic when I get a whiff of chlorine and I'll never forget that slimey skin feeling from the high school pool.


Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán




manda405


Jun 28, 2005, 4:13 PM

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Yes, Yes, definately YES!

The first summer that I lived in Michoacan, I was determined to have a pool put in our backyard at the first opportunity. Watching the neighbors across the street splash and play in theirs made me so jealous. At least once a week my younger sisters-in-law and I would drive the 20 miles to the nearest public pool and pay the 15 pesos to play all day. They can't swim well so they stayed in the shallows, but still enjoyed every minute of it.
I don't have my pool yet, but as soon as we get our own house, That is the first thing that I am going to do. I don't care if I have to use the outhouse for a year while I am paying for the installation. And I am definately going to do an all concrete structure and spring for the saltwater filtration. I couldn't imagine how much chlorine would cost!
I guess we could always charge admission to the neighborhood kids to pay for it ;)

Side note- Tell me if you think this is as crazy as I do: The above mentioned neighbors happen to be very wealthy and to prove it they had their pool filled the first time with Agua Santorini. Yes the same water that you buy in garafones to drink. I am not sure how many liters it was but the big water truck came twice to completely fill it.
I guess they didn't want their prize german shepard to get sick if he drank from it.


What happens down in Mexico...Stays in Mexico.


Papirex


Jun 28, 2005, 7:13 PM

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If you are going to put in a pool, you might want to check out this site: http://www.de-fontenay.com/poolhmpg.htm It is in Australia and it has some very good info. You will need to search the site to find everything you need to know, but it is there.

Incidentally, “Salt filters” are not filters, but chlorine generators. If your eyes burn from chlorine in the water, then the water balance has not been properly maintained. Even if you have a completely automatic system to maintain the balance of your pool water, I recommend that you buy a water test kit and check the water every few days. They come with a couple of test vials, test chemicals, and easy to follow instructions. Replacement test chemicals are available at low cost. It takes about five minutes to test your water.

You may need to add chlorine, it is cheap in Mexico, it comes in tablet or granule form. I prefer the granules, the tablets are big, and take a long time to dissolve. You may also need to add some pool acid, it comes in liquid form, and is cheap in Mexico too. Run another test after adding the acid.

You should stay out of the water until the chlorine is fully dissolved and mixed in the water. Make another test after the chlorine has dissolved, and mixed well in the water, run the circulating pump to do that. If you did it right, your eyes won’t burn.

To bring the PH in balance, you may need to add some ash that is sold in pool supply stores for that purpose

There are two types of filters used most often, sand filters, and DE (Diatomaceous Earth) filters. DE filters are the most efficient. Diatomaceous Earth has a unique advantage for filtering water. The molecules of diatomaceous earth are so dense that there is only room for a water molecule to pass through it; anything in the water will be filtered out. The filter pads must be cleaned every few months, and coated with a fresh layer of diatomaceous earth.

Sand filters seem to be the most widely used pool filters in Mexico, they should be back-flushed once a week during the swimming season, and the sand should be replaced every four “swimming seasons.” Since the swimming season lasts for most of the year in Mexico, I would replace the sand every two years. When you have your pool installed, make sure that “unions” are installed in the piping system so that the top of the tank containing the sand can be removed to periodically replace the sand.

The first house we leased here had a pool with a sand filter. The house and pool appeared to be about 30 or 40 years old. The sand in the filter had never been changed. No unions had ever been installed to remove the top of the filter, it was impossible to change the sand without adding the unions to the piping system. We lived at the edge of town, near some farms. When the farmers would burn the sugar cane fields after the harvest, heavy ashes would fall. The next day there would be a green growth in the pool, it looked like an algae. It would settle to the bottom of the pool, when I would try to vacuum the pool, within five minutes the green stuff would start coming back into the pool through the skimmer ports on the side of the pool. The sand filter was just too overloaded, back-flushing it would give me only another five minutes of use, before the stuff I was vacuuming out of the pool would start returning through the skimmer ports.

It would take me a week or ten days to get the pool water clean again. Then the farmers would burn more fields.

Our landlord kept stalling us on having the work on the piping system done, and replacing the sand in the filter. In another life, I have installed the piping systems for many swimming pools. I am perfectly capable of installing the needed unions for his pool filter, but I wasn’t going to be pressured into doing something that was his responsibility. Our lease was nearly up, so we moved.

These are just some of the things to think about when considering having a pool. Our gardener in that first house told me he would maintain the pool. The only thing he ever did was to run the filter once in a while. I never saw him back-flush it, or test the water. That’s when I started doing it myself.

Even if you intend to hire someone to maintain your pool, learn how to do it yourself, then you will know if it is being done right.

Rex
"The supreme happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved" - Victor Hugo


manda405


Jun 28, 2005, 8:18 PM

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wow, that's alot to think about...
I still want my pool though.!!


What happens down in Mexico...Stays in Mexico.


carlw

Jun 30, 2005, 12:50 PM

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Rex is basically correct about all this. I work for an online company that sells pool equipment and parts, and i can say the demand for the salt chlorine generating systems has boomed over the last year, especially as the price of chlorine has increased about 50% since November. The advantage to these systems (invented in Australia) is they work consistently all the time, whether you are home or not, there is no human error in adding the chlorine, and the chlorine level using this system is lower than when using chlorine granular or tablets. It is not a totally fool-proof system, but as close as is now available. And as others have mentioned, there is no smell when the free-chlorine level starts to drop and the pool needs to be shocked. Customers have been almost 100% satisfied with this type of system. Plus, there is no transporting or storing chlorine at home. We have sold several to people in Mexico, and some of the hotels have also begun to install them. There is a lot of information about these systems on the web. They work in both in-ground and above-ground pools. Anyone in Mexico have above-ground pools with the vinyl liners?
 
 
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