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susieee


May 31, 2005, 12:27 PM

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Since I've spent all day reading every post since 2002, I feel I know some of you already. Let me give a quick intro of myself so that my questions make more sense. We are planning on coming for an extended stay from September through January...and staying longer if things are going well. There is myself, my husband, and our two teens. I do web/graphic/stuff and he's a computer geek that travels Monday through Friday 3 weeks each month (less in Dec & Jan).

I was surprised at how few posts were about transportation to/from SMA via Leon Airport. Ya'll must just live there and never leave! <grin> I'll be driving down so that I have my car for transportation to/from the airport. Sorry, Carol, but I'll walk and use the local stuff around town since setting my keys down on the counter and not picking them up for a few days is exactly why I want to move there. We're from a small town here and the airport is an hour away. From what I've been reading, it's about the same from SMA to Leon. Am I nuts for thinking that driving to the airport is no problem or am I just being optimistic because I want to be there so bad?

You've had recent discussions about gringos/real mexicans. I agree with most of what you said. A place is what you make it. There is no way I can ask you if it's the right place for me. I don't think gringos are rude americans and I don't think "real mexicans" wear sombreros. I lived in Guadalajara awhile back so I'm not doing this whole venture blindly. I am concerned though. I see threads about Cosco, etc. I am going to be able to find moments without US culture aren't I? Do the locals (and non-locals) still utilize "al centro"...and is this what SMA refers to as "el jardin"? Is there a mercado by/for the locals. One of my favorite spots to eat in DF is just outside the mercados where the foods cheap, the talk is great, and smells are wonderfully horrid (mixed leather and fresh fruit).

If I have to park a 15-foot sailboat (an oversized canoe), am I going to have a problem finding a storage spot? We may be coming down from a family reunion in Northern California so a side-trip back to Michigan to drop off the boat would be simply obnoxious.

Oh! One more thing, how much are bullfights? Hubby's into it...I think I'll just take pictures of the people watching <grin>.

Thanks so very much for any information you have!

sus



Carol Schmidt


May 31, 2005, 1:49 PM

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You can probably park your sailboat in the Hotel Sautto parking lot for about $35 a month. I've known people who have parked trucks there. You can enter it by turning on the one-way street Quebrada from Insurgentes and looking for a small tile #18 on the left side and turning left into the gate. Or the Hotel Siesta on Ancha San Antonio just before the glorieta has an RV campground out back which has plenty of space.They'd be a good place to try for space rental.

I have friends outside of Centro who rent parking space at places like their local radiator shop which is glad for a little extra income for their yard out back, especially if you're not having to move it in and out all the time like a car.

Of course if you get a few blocks out of the Jardin you can find places where far fewer gringos go. We buy most of our stuff in stores where very few gringos can be seen. Besides Tuesday Market, which is seen as a tourist attraction by many newby gringos but is still a major outdoor marketplace for mostly Mexicans, there are two major mercados within easy walk from Centro.

Centro, by the way, is usually considered as the historic district where there are strict rules on no U.S. chains, no big signs, only authentic colors and paints, etc., and the mayor wants all traffic banned eventually on the center eight square blocks. it's not just the square park in front of the Parroquia which is the Jardin. The other major city park is Park Juarez about four blocks away from the Jardin, but it is still considered Centro. There are dozens of colonias making up San Miguel. Technically only the one called Centro is Centro, but neighboring ones usually get the name too. In casual use, if you can walk there from the Jardin in five or ten minutes, it's Centro, no matter wha the colonia.

The first of the two major mercados that are almost totally Mexican-owned and frequented is Ramirez Market, behind Plaza Civica, probably 70 shops of all kinds including a fresh flower aisle, and it leads through more stalls iand small food stands into the Artisan's Alley of probably 100 small stalls that runs from Hotel Quinta Loreto on Calle Loreto through to Relox. We've found a Bachoca chicken store right alongside Plaza Civica where we can get fresher, cheaper chickens cut any way we want and the huge eggs usually have double yolks. We get sliced ham, bacon and cheeses at one of the dozens of shops bordering Plaza Civica and Ramirez Market. That's where we run when we need an 82-cent bottle of dish soap and 40 cents worth of bulk marjoram and a quarter's worth of salt, our purchases during this morning's walk before it got hot.

The second is San Juan de Dios, near the church of the same name, not quite as big. It connects with outdoor stalls that sell everything, including a big section of Christmas decorations in season. You will definitely know you are in Mexico when you shop at either area. We have a favorite produce vendor at each market who will toss in a free mango or apple as a gift for our continued patronage.

And the major streets a few blocks out of Centro are lined with all the usual shops of any Mexican city serving a population of 130,000. Along Insurgentes and Canal we find most of what we need. We only go to Costco once a month, either to the one in Celaya or Queretaro, for Costco catfood--a 20-pound bag of good-quality catfood is about $10, and we go through five bags a month. We save $35 a month by buying it there, and it allows us to feed all the feral cats we do and ahve money left over for sterilizations.

So while we're there we take advantage of the cheap bulkrate stuff Costco is famous for--24 rolls of TP, gallons of dishwashing and laundry soap and olive oil, etc. That's usually the only time we take the car out all month, or maybe a Gigante run when we stock up on heavy stuff like Norma's Diet Pepsi and boxes of milk and FibraMax cereal which only Gigante seems to carry. We put 1200 miles a year on our car compared to 40,000 miles a year in Phoenix, LA and rural Michigan.

Every day we discover more little Mexican-owned stores that sell stuff we didn't realize was available here. We'd like to cut out the monthly Costco run the day Social Security checks arrive but as I said, the cat food savings alone makes it worthwhile. So we take that opportunity to eat at a US chain restaurant, once a month.

Our favorite SMA restaurants do include one that is owned by a gringo, Harry's New Orleans Creole and Cajun in Centro, but it's a splurge restaurant. For Sunday brunch we go to Cafe de la Parroquia which is owned by a woman who is Venezuelan and French, so I don't know if you'd call that gringo-owned or not, but the menu is only in Spanish and the clientele is always at least half Mexican, and a deluxe brunch for two is under $14.

Despite the stereotyping of SMA as one huge U.S. city, most notably by one Mexconnect poster who hasn't even been here in more than 20 years, nothing can be farther from the truth. You will adore it, I make a bet: a hefty comida at Cafe Colon for about $3.50 if I'm wrong.

Carol Schmidt


Carol Schmidt


May 31, 2005, 5:47 PM

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Norma, the driver, says it would probably be impossible to bring a 15-foot-plus trailer into San Miguel's narrow streets, nor to make the turn into the Hotel Sautto parking lot. She's the one who drove our Ford 150 pulling a 30-foot RV for years, so I stand corrected.

She recommends you find a place to store your sailboat in the States, either in California or closer to where you will be crossing the border, wherever is convenient for you in the States.

As for bullfights, I think they're pretty cheap but I've never been to one here. If you get here by mid-September you can get to see the Running of the Bulls. The big national Independence Day celebrations start the night of Sept. 15 at El Grito, the shot starting the revolution of 1810 for independence from Spain, and the next two or three weeks are pretty full.

Read my archived columns on my first three months impressions of San Miguel when we moved here in May, 2002, for more information on what struck us first about SMA.

Carol Schmidt


susieee


May 31, 2005, 7:01 PM

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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

We'll definitely be there by mid-September and I'm a lot less worried about the Americanization. From growing up in a tourist town, I understand completely the advantages and disadvantages and it does sound like what I'm looking for can be found.

As for the boat, I guess I'll just figure it out as I go along. I tend to do well working from the seat of my pants.

I did read your first impressions of SMA and it was like watching you fall in love. Actually, it's what made me give up the free week trial and just become a member.

Thanks again!


raferguson


Jun 1, 2005, 5:34 PM

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I will make a couple of comments.

Driving in San Miguel is not easy, but not too bad. Heavy traffic, one way streets, lack of a grid pattern, little parking, patience required. Guanajato city is tougher driving. I don't remember the road to Leon airport being anything special. I would not worry too much about driving to Leon airport.

The bullfights are OK, I went to one the last time I was in San Miguel. It is pretty low key and low budget. The bull ring is not far from the center of town. Most of the fights I saw were OK, but in one case they had trouble killing the bull, so that was somewhat painful to watch, and more painful for the bull. Don't bother to pay for the most expensive seats, just get the regular seats in the shade (Sombra), but not the cheapest seats (Sol).

Enjoy your stay in SMA.

Richard


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